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| Psycho Werekitsune | Jan 29 2015, 09:45 PM Post #3181 |
Part man...part beast...full psycho!
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For those not familiar with this, it's basically a massive anime crossover fighter bringing characters from a multitude of franchises into one game. EDIT: Not Everyone is Thrilled That Metroid Prime Trilogy Lands on the Wii U eShop Three New LEGO Games Heading for Nintendo Hardware in 2015 Nintendo Launches Beta of 'Creators Program' for YouTube |
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| Sonia Chaud | Jan 30 2015, 11:19 PM Post #3182 |
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When you agree with PDP... |
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| -Ekoi- | Jan 31 2015, 12:36 AM Post #3183 |
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I have no compassion for those who try to monetize videos where all they do is play a fucking videogame with a mic or webcam. 30-40% of the cut going to Nintendo is more than fair when a vastly grander percentage of the video's content comes from their games' content. The "it's free marketing" argument doesn't hold water when you realized that Nintendo already does a well enough job on its own and certainly doesn't need some fucking youtubers to help. Their franchises sell themselves. |
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| -Blacklightning- | Jan 31 2015, 03:31 AM Post #3184 |
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It's easy to just say this, but frankly the reality for Nintendo as of late doesn't paint quite as pretty a picture - in fact I'd even argue that some of their marketing department desperately needs to be fucking fired. The early success of the WiiU, for example, hinged on selling it as a separate console to the Wii entirely and somehow they couldn't even do that right. Not just because WiiU itself is a fucking stupid and confusing name but because they had the hilarious lack of foresight to announce another model of the Wii right on the precipice of the brand new console they were counting on selling on brand name alone. And that's just the hardware department - Nintendo Directs might be a handy way to transmit information but the audience that actually watches them is pretty selective as-is, even assuming they're not announced maybe two or three days in advance like the last few of them have been. Not condoning or condemning the royalties scheme here, just food for thought. EDIT: Who here like Wonder Boy? Spoiler: click to toggle Because we're getting a spiritual sequel. I'm hyped, personally. Edited by Blacklightning, Jan 31 2015, 04:15 AM.
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| -Kay G. Radley- | Jan 31 2015, 07:44 AM Post #3185 |
is really Sol Badguy
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...why does the topmost screeny have L1 and R1 and Y instead of Triangle? As much as I'd like this to be real, that little detail and the subtitle referencing alcohol has me skeptical... |
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| -Blacklightning- | Jan 31 2015, 12:56 PM Post #3186 |
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because custom control configurations have never existed before apparently. I'll admit I did raise an eyebrow at the subtitle, but I just figured it some wierd translation quirk or something. |
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| -Ekoi- | Jan 31 2015, 05:59 PM Post #3187 |
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Those are LT and RT. They get rotated based on which configuration you use. And while confirmed for PC and PS4, there is no confirmation for MS consoles. However, Xbox 360 and XBONE controllers are among the most common types of gamepads, which would explain why they have those iconsets in the PC screenshots. Edited by Ekoi, Jan 31 2015, 06:03 PM.
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| -Emerald Spirit- | Jan 31 2015, 10:56 PM Post #3188 |
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Well, SUPPOSEDLY, a single second long frame in this sequence is supposed to be teasing at Metal Gear Rising 2. Here's the bit in question. Supposedly, that's the same font and general look of MGR's logo/title, and going back, I can definitely see similarities. Even more interesting is how it's on a PS4 presentation, where the original was a multiplatform release and eventually came to PCs (gracing the title with glorious silky smooth sixty frames per second AND all previous DLC included, all at a reduced price, might I add), so I've gotta wonder if they're pulling a timed exclusive deal, as even the main line Metal Gear Solid games are going multiplat this time. |
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A desolate place, without any trace It's only the cold wind I feel It's me that I spite, as I stand up and fight The only thing I know for real There will be bloodshed! | |
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| Sonia Chaud | Feb 2 2015, 09:24 PM Post #3189 |
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SOE Is now Daybreak And not part of Sony. |
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| Psycho Werekitsune | Feb 3 2015, 12:07 AM Post #3190 |
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| -Ekoi- | Feb 3 2015, 02:14 AM Post #3191 |
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Yeah, no, he's fucking talking out of his ass like any other fucking git who thinks they have a right to content they do not produce. Fucking entitled generation of manchildren. The limited list is because Nintendo does not have full ownership of every game they have published. They cannot give out those permissions until they have the permissions to do so. The individual companies that choose to let you monition their content on your channels is their right, however to assume that every company has to oblige that right is fucking absurd. You want some "REAL" fucking solutions? Don't monetize the fucking videos for content you don't own if the owners say not to. You can still have those fucking videos, you cannot just try to put monopolization features on it. People bitching don't know shit about the law when they don't fucking know shit about it. Speaking of, there are in fact some kinds of laws that protect YOU for using video fotage of content you don't own! Such as parody and critique laws! However, to fall under those you have to actually put forth an amount of featured-content that is of your creation, and/or have any sense of educational value. For example, a Jontron episode could be monetized because these are primarly critiques and do not primarily feature recorded game footage as the content. Another valid example is Achievement Hunter, who often only show certain clips of gameplay alongside commentary and infotext, making their content educational. It's when you fucking try to record hours upon hours of video and all you've done is cram a facecam in the corner and have your voice is where you get into legal hot water, because if you monetize it at that point you are showcasing content you do not own/have rights to FOR MONETARY GAIN. This isn't about "LPing isn't real jobs," it's about not fucking using the content of others for financial profit. It's literally commercial art theft, and just because some companies choose not to enforce it doesn't mean you're fucking entitled to all recorded content. Fuck off with your propaganda, Jim. And before someone makes like the youtube comments and claim copyright laws need to keep up with the times or some shit, fuck you and your ignorance. Because of the internet, laws have been put into place on a fucking global level to protect the owners and their content.[/b] Edited by Ekoi, Feb 3 2015, 02:42 AM.
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| -Ekoi- | Feb 3 2015, 02:20 AM Post #3192 |
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And another thing, because this deserves it's own attention: The laws I've mentioned that protect content creators? They're actually really fucking flimzy, and artists often cannot take advantage of them because the legal costs of enforcing your copyrights. You can find stolen original and fanart being printed on products for sale all over ebay, Amazon, etc. Nintendo is enforcing them because they have the financial ability to do so, and still providing a licensing outlet for LPers. The people complaining most are those suffering the consequences for their breaching of legal rights of others, because they have fucking entitlement issues. Edited by Ekoi, Feb 3 2015, 02:21 AM.
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| Sonia Chaud | Feb 3 2015, 04:31 AM Post #3193 |
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The general feeling I get about it is that YTers are afraid this system is going to be used as a cudgel to keep them in line with the Ninty party line, even on other videos that have nothing to do with an "offense". Do they have the right to? Sure, but the coverage of Nintendo games and news will still suffer. |
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| -Kay G. Radley- | Feb 3 2015, 05:02 AM Post #3194 |
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Evidentally, I have a legend, and it will be rereleased on WiiU and PC |
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| -Ekoi- | Feb 3 2015, 06:02 AM Post #3195 |
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lol, No? It's not going to effect game coverage and news in any notable way at all. The automated system youtube had before where 100% of revenue went to the copyright owners didn't have an effect, why should a system that permits the video uploaders a legal license to receive a revenue share do so either? Also, as explained before, this doesn't really effect those who work within copyright laws and youtube rules regarding content use and monetization. (Remember the whole educational part before? Reviews and News can fall under that. No, this affects LPers primarily.) There are no rules or policies in place with any relation to the video content outside of the whitelist for games you can receive revenue for under the license. It's fear-mongering and propaganda. NINTENDO WANTS MONEY FOR YOU TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THEIR CONTENT?! WHAT'S NEXT, FORCING YOU TO MAKE VIDEOS GIVING ONLY POSITIVE REVIEWS?????? yeah, nah. People like Jimbo are counting on you to remain ignorant and buy into their bullshit. You'll notice that he did not link the official page for the program nor it's ToS page. Speaking of, here are those pages for anyone wishing to educate themselves. https://r.ncp.nintendo.net/guide/ https://r.ncp.nintendo.net/terms/ The only relevant parts in that ToS are: 7. Code of Conduct. You agree that your participation in and actions in connection with the Nintendo Creators Program, including use of the Content, will not violate any law, regulation, contract, intellectual property or other third-party right or constitute a criminal action or tort, and that you are solely responsible for your conduct in connection with the Nintendo Creators Program. You further agree not to: b. Engage in any discriminatory, defamatory, libelous, hateful, harassing, abusive, obscene, threatening, physically dangerous, unlawful, or otherwise objectionable conduct in relation to the Content or the Nintendo Creators Program; Which is standard license legal stuff, and the words are very literal, not figurative definitions. This doesn't mean that you're prohibited from giving a game an unfavorable review. 12. Amendments. Nintendo may change the terms and conditions of this agreement at any time so far as such changes are necessary or helpful to enhance the Nintendo Creators Program or to adapt it to reflect changes in technical or legal requirements. If we make any other changes, we will notify you in advance via your Google account email address or the Nintendo Creators Program website. If you do not object to these changes within the timeframe communicated to you, the changes will be deemed to be accepted (the notification will inform you accordingly). Should you object to the changes, Nintendo reserves the right to terminate this agreement or any portion of it upon a reasonable notice. Also standard affair for ToS, you see this sort of thing in most of them. Yes, this means that, in theory, Nintendo could change their rules to where you cannot give negative reviews, and have to pledge allegiance to glorious nippon in every video! But if they ever do, they've already bound themselves by this contract that they have to fucking tell you when the ToS changes. And you can cancel your licensing deal with Nintendo at any time without issue as long as you also remove monetization from those would-be offending videos. The fact of things is, previously people were automatically getting ALL their revenue taken from them not because Nintendo said so, but because YOUTUBE said so! This was youtube having to cover their own asses, so that they and the uploader don't get sued by these businesses for copyright infringement. Many companies besides Nintendo, outside of videogames even, are part of this automated process. Those videos that avoided the automated system aren't magically excluded from copyright infringement, they just were overlooked by a robot. (this is where the whole LPer entitlement comes in) People are looking for reasons to be mad, and using propaganda and fear-mongering to fuel it. |
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