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Topic Started: Feb 10 2011, 02:20 AM (58,756 Views)
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Group of modders contacted Konami to seek permission to remake the original Metal Gear, so as to avoid a cease and desist in the future. Konami gave them the full go ahead, granting full access rights to rebuilding the game. Only condition is that they aren't allowed to use copyrighted materials for the purpose of marketing or promotion.

It's being built as mod of Valve's Alien Swarm, so it'll most definitely be exclusive to the Steam storefront when it comes out. It will also be 100% free, no surprises.
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Good Guys Konami.
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Good Guys Modders who miss Metal Gear for what it was and are sick of Kojima's soap opera bullshit.
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Fable Anniversary coming to PC.

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The end was hilarious xD

Take-Two says that Red Dead is a permanent franchise. And also, despite Irrational's closing, the publisher still has plans for Bioshock.
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Valve needs to close the gates on Steam. Seriously, what the fuck?

EDIT: Here's a few more things on the topic. And it's kinda needed, because I wouldn't be able to explain this shit properly even if I tried:



Linked in a comment on the forum topic for Jim's video up the top. One of his major claims is that, with the number of games releasing nowadays, most of the responsibilty of letting the consumers know what games are actually worthwhile lies solely with the reviewers. Sure, doing as much is literally the job description of a reviewer (this game sucks and this is why, etc.) but when you look at games like Earth: Year 2066 and Air Control, games that exist solely to rob those less informed (and not inclined to do research beforehand, for better or worse) of their cash and not actually get it back ever because Steam and other major storefronts don't give refunds, then the task falls to the people that actually host the storefronts (Valve, Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Google, etc.) because these games shouldn't be on Steam or whatever to begin with.

These two videos aren't directly linked, of course. They're focusing on two very different aspects of the same topic. Errant Signal likens the topic to a museum's curator: Museum walls have limited space, so they have to "cherry pick" what to host. Steam doesn't have that limitation, so having the guys who run Steam control every game ever just isn't a good idea.

TotalBiscuit has a neat reply to the latter video (possible tl;dr):

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A few points.

Most people are not actually arguing for "museum-style" curation, they're arguing for baseline quality standards, better discoverability and the inability for publishers to mass-dump old titles onto Steam from the back catalogues and clog up the "New Releases" section that way. They're also arguing for proper labeling (Steam frequently gets the release dates wrong, even on the store page itself. The dates are always wrong on the new releases store front), lack of censorship of useful tags (Steam recently banned the Uplay tag. The only mention of Uplay DRM is a tiny section halfway down a vast page that is very hard to find. Other banned tags include "bad port" "DRM" and "mobile port") and things like more accurate and descriptive genres (indie is not a genre).

Retailers in the UK at any rate are responsible for offering refunds when products do not meet the standards set out by the Sale of Goods Act, which includes "not fit for purpose". They then take that up with the manufacturer while the customer is issued a refund for the product. Valve does not offer this, yet they stock many games that would fall under this criteria and have an obtuse and difficult refund process that more often than not yields no results. Basically you shouldn't be able to have it both ways, stock a lot of absolute tat then not offer refunds when it doesn't work. Sites like GoG both carefully curate and offer excellent refund policies, Valve is way behind in both regards.

As to why people like me who make their living critiquing these games are unhappy, it's because we have a passion for games and don't want to see good titles getting drowned in a sea of utter shite. When I reached out to indie devs asking about the importance of the frontpage, most of them said it was extremely important to drive awareness and sales, while even the more skeptical at least admitted that the frontpage resulted in a sales bump. I'd also like to point out that we cannot keep up. No seriously, I could push myself to critique 2 games a day every day 7 days a week (which would result in awful videos, even first impressions take a decent amount of time to do properly) and I'd still be way behind. Even organizations with the resources (IGN, maybe Giantbomb) don't even come close to keeping up with all the stuff that ends up on Steam. The best case scenario is we become cherry-pickers ourselves, put out videos on only the good games while condemning the rest into that promotion-less hell, which would perhaps be extremely unfair since some of the titles we missed are probably pretty good. There was not a lack of games to do videos on prior to Steam instituting Greenlight and then, perhaps far more damaging, allowing publishers free reign to self publish hundreds of old games onto the platform, sometimes 7-8 at a time. We were not starved for content, now we're drowning in it and it's causing us to miss out on good titles that deserve our attention. We can't keep up.
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You know it's bad when Origin does it better.

BTW You can still buy it
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I need this game
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I love it when the devs have a sense of humor.
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The comments make it even better xD
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Game Developers are Cattle
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So can we please go back to making not ridiculously expensive games so the actual profits go to paying people's wages?
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That would require having CEOs that understand anything other than money. Literally, just about all the people in charge these days don't come from any kind of gaming, programming or designing background, they're a bunch of penny-pinching businessmen who stopped caring about modest successes a long time ago. The fact that their own staff are essentially disposable to them, besides being absolutely fucking sick, is just the cherry on the cake and perhaps the only reason scumbags like these ever fall to begin with.
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So then, can we get rid of upper management and have the regular guys run the company? Or, better idea, everyone quits, and no one makes games. The old companies collapse due to lack of labour, and former game devs get to restart with smaller companies and work their way back up! That way, everyone who matters and who knows shit will be running things.

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And then EA buys them out and we're thrust straight back to square one again.
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