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Topic Started: Feb 10 2011, 02:20 AM (58,788 Views)
Psycho Werekitsune
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I got Smash on the Wii when it was offered on the Club for coins. On that note, the Club is currently offering Wii U VC...except it's not really Wii U VC, it's Wii U VC done through Wii Mode, which is bullshit.
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Atlus rumored to localize Yakuza 5
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Marvel and Star Wars to join the Disney Infinity line-up.
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Resident Evil Composer hasn't composed his own music in almost 20 years
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Squeenix is out of the red.

YOU GOT LIGHTNING IN MY TITS MCGEE

...yeah, I'm prolly skipping over Ground Zeroes.
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Psycho Werekitsune
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You should probably post that in the Skullgirls thread. :P
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Just Cause dev: AAA gaming is dumb
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They're not entirely wrong, but I think the biggest problem with this "AAA" notion is that almost nobody is actually providing a cement definition of the term beyond that money is involved. And therein I think the biggest problem is that people with money are in charge to begin with, at least insofar as the ones that don't actually know how videogames work. In a perfect world developers should just be doing what they do best and the execs with money should just focus on making them fucking marketable, but most of the time it's the other way around - execs with money interfering with the very creative processes of their teams, chasing trends without any real understanding of the way it affects the game, the team and the consumers, and whether they'll make even a measurable dent in the sales of a competing market that basically already singlehandedly owns the market they're after.

And that's all before you get to the "spending vs profit" phase of the discussion most people start with.
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Deal With It Guy has dealt with the internet bitchslapping him in a beautiful way
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You know what, that's pretty awesome. Both, how he dealt with it (pun intended) and what he produced out of it as a result. I always say we need more games that focus less on combat and more on the experience itself.
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Feb 10 2014, 11:54 PM
You know what, that's pretty awesome. Both, how he dealt with it (pun intended) and what he produced out of it as a result. I always say we need more games that focus less on combat and more on the experience itself.
Totally agree, the game looks good, I'd buy it
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This is the single greatest thing I've read regarding this topic:

http://playeressence.com/new-development-studio-ae-games-slams-ubisoft-ea-and-other-3rd-parties-over-treatment-of-the-wii-u-its-customers/

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“AE Games is a brand new game developer, based in North Carolina. Our desire is to create great games, specifically designed around Nintendo systems; starting with the Wii U! Instead of treating the Wii U as an afterthought like many developers/publishers have, it is going to be our focus.

What has been the picture of third party support on the Wii U? It seems that late DLC, no DLC, missing modes, and selling last year’s game as this year’s, has been the way to go. Then follow that up with trying to justify poor sales by blaming consumers (or, even Nintendo), and canceling or delaying future titles? There are examples of publisher support that shouldn’t be forgotten, wonderfully terrible examples in our opinion. How about a publisher releasing one game from a series on the Wii U for $60, but selling the entire series in a bundle on other consoles for the same price as the Wii U’s single game version? And how about one publisher releasing the exact same game on all consoles at the same time, but pricing the Wii U version nearly 70% more than the other versions? Or, now even a more recent example, delaying only the Wii U version of a game that was already previously announced; despite the publisher doing exactly the opposite with a certain Wii U game in 2013?

Not only was/is this actively sabotaging sales of those Wii U games by the publishers in our opinion, but it was apparently assuming most Wii U owners in 2012, 2013, and even now in 2014 would be ignorant of those things (we guess?), or not care about them?

We are tired of hearing excuses from so many third party developers and publishers in regards to supporting the Wii U. We think it’s a shame so many third party developers and publishers have provided excuses for not supporting the system, instead of providing examples. There’s really only one way to dice some third party support of Nintendo systems: can’t never could, and never will.

But, if you own a Wii U, you likely know that there have been some developers that have really taken their time in developing Wii U games, and been able to show some of the system’s strengths. We hope to become a part of the developers that have shown how to make games better, on the Wii U with the Wii U GamePad.

While the foundation of our company has started in central North Carolina, we will be using talent from around the world to bring great games to the Wii U (and hopefully, other Nintendo systems). We will be revealing our very first game in development for the Wii U, this Friday! Will you be hit by one of Cupid’s arrows when you see it, and fall in love with the idea behind it? We hope so!

You can follow us on Twitter and Facebook, and feel free to checkout our site, AEGames.net, for more updates and contact information! Join us in celebrating the Wii U this week, and show your appreciation for the Wii U on social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter, using the hashtags #WeLoveWiiU.”
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I'm sorry, but that's complete bullshit. They could've given Nintendo sex on a disc for all the difference it makes - nobody would even fucking know it's there because Ninty did an astonishingly shit job of publicising the fucking thing in the first place. That's the bottom line here. It isn't as simple as some "developers won't support the console because it's not selling, the console isn't selling because of lack of developer support" circular logic - Nintendo made a gamble that it would sell on brand power alone, and it turned out they were dead fucking wrong on that count. Every single bit of bad will the console has garnered can be traced right back to their PR - everything else is just a snowball effect accumulating on top of it. The worst you can blame anyone for is not having the nerve to outright come out and say that Nintendo fucked up when they try desperately to make a WiiU port profitable, rather than making excuses about it and blatantly cutting back on content to fuck their own goodwill up along with Ninty's.

In fact I'd wager this whole thing is just an arrogant fucking publicity stunt to grab attention to a brand new developer who hasn't made a single game yet to back their mouth up. And judging by the reactions I'm seeing around the place, they certaintly made that work.
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In fact I'd wager this whole thing is just an arrogant fucking publicity stunt to grab attention to a brand new developer who hasn't made a single game yet to back their mouth up. And judging by the reactions I'm seeing around the place, they certaintly made that work.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that felt this way
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