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Sonic the Hedgehog; All things Sonic go here.
Topic Started: Sep 4 2010, 07:44 AM (41,841 Views)
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Havoc The Tenrec
Feb 4 2014, 02:56 AM
I like to play devil’s advocate. I don’t look at things in black and white.... bad game or good game, it's not healthy to hate something without saying at least something good about it, I do the same for Sonic 06 at times too. Like Aroxys said, the concept and presentation was appealing, but the execution was not so much.
You're basically saying that some elements are merely mediocre as opposed to outright fucking awful... this is not something one should be satisfied with. I'm not sure I can even praise it on a conceptual level, because it all clashes so desperately with the fundementals of the engine and gameplay scheme it's built off.

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...I don't take any of this seriously. I'm not the one writing long winded essays. I just like stating my opinion that I personally feel they'd be more successful if they stuck with or returned to a previous direction at some point, even if there's no chance.
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Way to alienate half of your audience (older half) as usual.
You can't use the opinion card and then simultaneously claim you're actually speaking for anyone. People doing this is a massive fucking pet peeve of mine - if you're going to hide behind "b-b-b-but my opinanz!!" then you're going to have to accept the fact that people can still object to it. Nor can you really claim you're not bawwing considering how this argument started. If you're trying to save face you'll have to try harder or swallow your pride.

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A Shadow game kind of automatically calls for something slightly Grimdark-ish
No it fucking well does not. The majority of SA2 basically still revolved around Shadow anyway and there was never any sign of this bullshit there. At worst he occasionally got a little sad and mopey, but they never desaturated the pallete or stooped to frequent PG-level cusses because of it.

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...don't tell me you didn't get even a slight boner when you saw the preview of Sonic practically dying in front of Shadow when he was holding that gun.
Give me a fucking break. This was the literal pinnacle of Sega treating its iconic mascot like absolute shit in his own series, in a console generation absolutely littered with the same mentality. They basically summed up Shadow's status as a creator's pet in the space of ten seconds - the only way they could've been more blatant about it is if he blew the blue bastard's head off right there and then and neon signs sprung up spelling out "I'M FUCKING HARDCORE BITCHES".
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I didn't get a boner seeing Shadow get a gun, proverbially. I actually expected he would, considering that he is prone to violence.
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Blacklightning
Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM
I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms.

But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit.

game - gun = gay
game + gun = -gay
game + gun + Arem = ???


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You can't use the opinion card and then simultaneously claim you're actually speaking for anyone. People doing this is a massive fucking pet peeve of mine - if you're going to hide behind "b-b-b-but my opinanz!!" then you're going to have to accept the fact that people can still object to it. Nor can you really claim you're not bawwing considering how this argument started. If you're trying to save face you'll have to try harder or swallow your pride.


I think you're just going to have to deal with the fact that not everyone is going to always have the same opinion as you and just leave it as it is. I understand where you're coming from in your points, but you really take it too seriously. When I got the game I thought it was "meh", meaning I didn't absolutely hate it or like it. If I happen to say I personally feel like it would be nice to see demographics pushed a just a few years forward, you can object to that, but I'm pretty sure you could do it without unneeded escalating drama. If one person's opinion rustles your jimmies that much, then I honestly don't know what to tell you. There's a point to were you just stop because of how ridiculous it's gotten, on one side or the other. We're arguing about a mere video game, for fucks sake. I accept the fact that you object to my opinion, but at least I wont try and bite your head off for it like we're all still teenagers on another forum.
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Feb 4 2014, 04:55 AM
There's a point to were you just stop because of how ridiculous it's gotten, on one side or the other.
You say this, yet you're clearly still trying to get the last word in. If you feel that way you should just quit while you're ahead.

I actually found what we covered here interesting in its own way, though. Don't construe it as "drama" just because I like to say "fuck" a lot.
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So it turns out we've been arguing for two pages over false information.

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Feb 4 2014, 12:31 PM
Well you know what.

FUCK YOU.

I dunno that just seems the Sonic fan thing to say.
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Bahahahaha...
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I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms.

But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit.

game - gun = gay
game + gun = -gay
game + gun + Arem = ???


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We were arguing over a real hypothetical game?

I thought we were arguing over a fake hypothetical game.



But since we're not anymore, here's a topic:

We've had four Sonic cartoons and all of them sucked. Discuss.
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One didn't.
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Feb 4 2014, 09:55 PM
We've had four Sonic cartoons and all of them sucked. Discuss.
5th time's a charm?
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I personally enjoyed AoSTH and SatAM. I don't think I need to give my reasons because it's just a matter of opinion, that's all.
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I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms.

But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit.

game - gun = gay
game + gun = -gay
game + gun + Arem = ???


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Enjoyability and something being good are separate things.

There are people out there who liked Sonic '06, after all.
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We've had four Sonic cartoons and all of them sucked. Discuss.
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We've had four Sonic cartoons and all of them sucked. Discuss.
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That sounds like it would do nothing but cover your hands in poo
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We've had four Sonic cartoons and all of them sucked. Discuss.
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That sounds like it would do nothing but cover your hands in poo
Brilliant. +1


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I personally enjoyed AoSTH and SatAM. I don't think I need to give my reasons because it's just a matter of opinion, that's all.


In a way, AoSTH is so pitiful....yet carries a weird charm. I blame youtube.
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