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Cool But Not Perfect, Yet; fixing the engineering flaws
Topic Started: Dec 22 2007, 02:29 PM (4,143 Views)
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The second is a cover that seals the main hull from the rear axle and lock bolts. I ground a flat side on the nuts, so it can be set from the outside. I have to silicone this in place tonight.Posted Image
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And finally, the brakes. This really turned out better than I thought it would. Formica seems like an ideal brake material, only time will tell. Since it is so rigid, I could slip them on without any glue, and if you look close you will see tiny springs between them. These springs are cut from out of a ballpoint pen (I got the idea of pensprings from Outcast) and once you release them they snap back away from the rotor and re-center the lever-arms.Posted Image After I took the pic I realized that they were crooked, so now the nuts are even.
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Looks awesome!!! :nice:

Can't wait to see whats next!
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Thank you, I am still wondering about the gearing situation though. If I hook the motor up direct to the pinion, I'm afraid it'll be a hardpack-only machine. Also, does anyone make a centrifugally actuated two or three speed trans?. I want good speed, but not a lot of "really cool paperweights". :unknow:
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Well most nitro vehicles use a clutching 2 /3 speeds. BUT they require plenty of RPM to engage and stay engaged. The only electric versions I know of that work is running large BL power thru the nitro tranny...

There have been attempts to make a normal electric 2 speed but they arn't very strong.

For normal electrics an Traxxas Emaxx tranny would be a good choice, or possibly a Tamiya bigrig 3 speed... Both options would give you shifting on the fly...
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Thanks for the info, I have also been considering a reduction of one or two teeth on the drive sprocket or a just that rc4wd 2to1 reduction unit.
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Nice modifications!!! I just ordered my DF-300 and will be watching this thread closely.
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Thanks, I'm starting to think that eagerness to run in the snow may put some of my changes on hold(for now). If I just get a 34T pinion and 73T spur for now, I think I can get it running by this weekend or next. Also, I can't see messing about with a chain tensioner for just the one winter that it will have drive chains. I moved the steering servo further to the back actually and I'm putting the RX in the very front. The battery should end up in the middle in a lengthwise position. Hopefully the ESC can sit flat on the belly pan far enough away from the battery.
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please keep us posted. i am checking your post almost everyday.
once you successed in your project, you should start selling the chassis LOL. i hate the stock chassis either and end up using a piece of plastic to seal the big hole in the middle.
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Manufacturing all-aluminum RC snow cats has crossed my mind, but it would be a long waiting time as I've been doing this with only a hacksaw, a hand-drill, a hole-punch, two wood-clamps, three small files and a jewelry saw. If I had a full shop, I'd do it, just to fill a much needed RC niche. Just yesterday, I started working out plans for a larger version powered by an 80cc 2-stroke 6-speed, we'll see what happens winter after next.
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Ok, I just picked up a 33T pinion and a 70T spur in 48P. Hopefully this will work well with the 19 turn orion V2 that I have. The stock gearing with a 17T/86T comes out to 25.5:1, which seems low to me. I need to re-calculate and see what it will be now, since direct drive would have been 5.045:1 final drive.
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If the diff and the chains can be counted as the "transmission ratio", I get 5.045 for that, and the "tire diameter" is 32mm. With a 33T/70T it comes out to a final drive of 10.7:1, is that right?. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I am still working out where everything will go inside, but here are a couple pics anyway. You can see the aluminum "axle locator bar" that was needed, as well as the springs that give greater suspension articulation. Posted Image Posted Image
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Looking awesome!
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sweet!!!!
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Thanks guys, even the most frustrating moments during this have been made tolerable by all the support. I just tried to break-in my 19T motor with the 3v no-load method, but it just hummed and would'nt spin. I gave up and spun it with an electric drill for a few minutes instead. So what do any of you think about the 10.70:1 gearing with a 19T Orion V2?.
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So what do any of you think about the 10.70:1 gearing with a 19T Orion V2?.

I seems a little high to me, but maybe it will move it ok.

I am still around 17:1 gearing with my brushless motor. And I know it has tons of torque still. I'm sure I could gear it even faster. I just haven't had much time to play with it yet since I go the new motor.
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Thanks, I hope to find out very soon. After seeing your video, I'm sort of wishing that something might overheat, giving me an excuse to go brushless now, rather than later. :diablo:
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Well I hoping to be able to get some better video this weekend. And also trying to step up to some bigger pinions also. I will post on here and let everybody know how it goes.
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Since I see you are a photographer, :nice: I look forward to it with the greatest anticipation. :drool:
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looks very good...we need snow pics!!
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Thanks, I'm frantically working to finish the "snow-frame" that will seal out the wet stuff and after that, it's all just soldering and component installation. Once it seems to be adjusted correctly, I'll slap a lunchbox body on and shoot some vids!. :yahoo:
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Well the the ESC I think fried from overheating in a ballon :rolleyes: Just waiting for it to cool down and test, when it smells like burnt popcorn i think its PoocheD .
All in a days fun :excited:
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That is not good, I hope you got it fixed. Well, I was waiting on some more sheet aluminum to finish sealing up my chassis and it's here. I'm hoping to get this thing done asap, as I type this it's snowing again......... :banghead:
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:update: Forget brush replacement, comm-cutting and wondering if I'll have enough torque/speed without overheating!,...My new Mamba-Maxx 4600 will be here by Friday. This project seemed worthy of such a system, and after seeing Jim's video, I was totally sold. :excited:
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