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| Topic Started: Feb 21 2006, 06:45 PM (906 Views) | |
| Wombii | Feb 21 2006, 06:45 PM Post #1 |
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Yay! got my nitro blizzard today! From what I understand from reading on the EV forum, the EV comes with steel on steel brakes, so I wasn't sure what to expect, but my nitro bliz came with those soft pads (I have no idea what material it is) to glue on to the steel pads. Initial assessment: won't be a nightmare to set up the brakes properly Also came with the bracer/axle thing to mount between the plates up front. Was actually pleasantly surprised to find a '05 Kyosho new products leaflet packed with the manualsm, which confirmed my hopes that I didn't get a 5 year old discontinued model Only problem I have run into so far is a grinding feel in the diff. Will have to take it apart a few more times tomorrow, but can't see or feel where the problem is exactly. Hope I will be allowed to join in on the discussion of non-nitro specific blizzard topics in the EV forum (especially if the nitro forum stays as quiet as this)
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| outcastrc | Feb 21 2006, 08:07 PM Post #2 |
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Glad to see our first nitro Blizzard member (unless I am mistaken) ![]() Interesting that your Blizzard has pads on the brakes. That would make a lot of sence. Wonder why they didn't just do that with all of them... Your welcome anywhere. Anytime! Only one rule round here and its keep it nice. After that just have fun!
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| EC | Feb 22 2006, 04:37 AM Post #3 |
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I have a nitro blizzard... |
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| spoon37 | Feb 22 2006, 04:37 AM Post #4 |
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good stuff! looks like they put more thought into the Blizzard GP, either that or they have had more complaints for the GP having more power to begin with... I dont see why this stuff cant be standardised on both models.... your welcome to add to the discussion on the EV too - its mostly the same apart from the powerplant(I think the brake rods are under the chassis on the GP, but thats about it). How does yours run? I'd be very interested to see how fast it goes being nitro and having a 2 speed gearbox(?) I have been wondering if this is to help it go fast or simply to keep the revs under control - the Blizzard EV as stock goes around walking pace(3-4mph) I expect the nitro to be faster...
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| Wombii | Feb 22 2006, 05:00 PM Post #5 |
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I might get to start it up tomorrow, but I probably won't be able to run it much until friday. Hopefully we will find out the answer to your question then I have run into a lot of minor problems (some major) during assembly, but I've solved most of them. Switched the diff with my Kyosho tr-15 which works great. Still haven't found the problem with the included one, but seems to be an issue with the large gear. Brakes seem very smooth because of the springs and pads, but I obviously won't know for sure until I run the blizzard under its own power. However I have a question: The non-threaded part of the wheel bolts seem to be about 5mm or 0.1-0.15 inches too long. is it supposed to be that much play in the wheels, or am I missing something? Another thing: ![]() I'm missing one stopper for the linkage. is the thing on the left in this picture used for anything (can't find a use for it in the manual)? Or is it just a stopper they forgot to drill up? The dimensions are the same as the stopper on the right. Right brake if anyone is interested:
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| spoon37 | Feb 23 2006, 04:01 AM Post #6 |
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yes the wheel bolts are too long, this is deliberate cuz if you tighten them fully the wheels wont turn over so you have to back it off a little. it also gives you room to shim the wheels properly when using ball bearings.... as for the stopper(collet), thats odd, it would appear you have one that has not been drilled... this is a quality control problem, but its prolly quicker to get a few RC collets rather than returning parts bags to kyosho...dunno if this is the right size but the size given refers to the inner diameter(I got confused cuz in the UK they are called collets, but Tower calls them Collars): http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXE104&P=7
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| Wombii | Feb 23 2006, 06:04 AM Post #7 |
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thx for the quick answer ![]() update: Got it running tonight. First tank on a box, second tank on the ground with medium throttle. This is a real drinker. Fuel consumption is much higher than my tr-15. Speed was about the same as in the EV vids. In second gear it was more like the brushless vid, but not quite as high, although this was, as I mentioned, only half throttle. I need to read the manual a few more times to find out how to adjust the 2-speed, because I don't think the second gear should have engaged at all at those revs. Steering was great to the right, both on the spot turns and wide smooth high-speed turns without problem. Left there was none, but that was because I forgot to loctite a stopscrew Next on the list: Start work on the body, and pray that the weather turns colder again, temperatures rose about 15 degrees Celsius from yesterday, and the snow is melting
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| Wombii | Feb 24 2006, 09:25 AM Post #8 |
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My prayers were answered. Weather turned colder and now everything is covered in ice or hard crusty snow
I'm amazed at how easy this thing is to start. It runs beautifully and is pretty responsive, but as I mentioned earlier, it drinks alot. I took it out in the yard today for some testing, and I am very pleased. The blizzard can climb almost anything when going slow, and when the second gear kicks in it can fly over almost anything. It doesn't even notice knee-deep footprints However I don't think it is quite as fast as the brushless EV in the video gallery. I'll need more space to test that.Anyone have an idea of something better than CA glue to glue the rubber feet onto the tracks? Every single one of them flew off pretty fast on my rampage.... Pictures and possibly a video clip may be posted soon, but still haven't gotten my paint yet. |
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| outcastrc | Feb 24 2006, 01:58 PM Post #9 |
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Score the plastic and the inside of the rubber with some sand paper so the glue has something to stick to... Tire glue might be a better glue choice as well. Tires stick to the rims better with it on high power MT's at least... |
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| wgyure | Dec 25 2006, 06:14 PM Post #10 |
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Greeting to all! I got one today and I'll read through to avoid too many repeated questions and such. (nitro) What an awesome looking kit, Can't wait to get started! I noticed a lot of pics with aluminum wheels, I've got black plastic ones. (?) Any suggestions before I really get into it would be much apreciated. Wade |
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| bmwnla | Dec 25 2006, 07:04 PM Post #11 |
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you have black wheels because your kit is the new df-300 model
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| EC | Dec 25 2006, 07:33 PM Post #12 |
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The aluminum wheels you see are actually just white plastic painted silver. The older blizzard's have that color. |
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| brokenmike | Dec 28 2007, 01:51 PM Post #13 |
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I just got my nitro DF-300 the 24th. I got it togeather and drove it.It is about as fast as I can run. It can climb almost anything.I'am still getting it tuned in
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| Schnitzermann | Jan 8 2008, 11:44 AM Post #14 |
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brokenmike, it looks sharp. Keeep the pics coming!! |
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| kenchoco | Jan 9 2008, 09:02 AM Post #15 |
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awesome...keep the action pics rolling in!!! |
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| Vintabilly | Feb 22 2008, 03:27 PM Post #16 |
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First Post! w00t. Hey there. I just built and put about 10 tanks through my new Nitro Blizzard. Great fun! it also has some weird things about it too.. and odd engineering. 1. It loves a very specific track tension. Too loose or tight and it shirks the tracks like a smock. 2. No grip, no fun. But it will "drift" through corners with ease. Bumpy frozen terrain at high speed doesn't feel too great either. 3. I filled the diff with 100k oil when I built it. No wandering so I think it works just fine. 4. That little engine is downright heroic. I don't think I'd want to go much faster unless I had really smooth surfaces or a snow field. 5. It never ever ever throws a track when driving in reverse. This is my biggest point. It drives better in reverse since the "front" can float over rough stuff with the weight in the "rear". 6. The driven sprocket should be in the back, not the front. It might not be scale but it would be much better for the tracks. When under acceleration the slack in the track is on the bottom. Cut hard when you have traction and it just skates the track off the bogey guides. If the driven sprocket were in the back it would keep the track tight around the rear bogey where the derailing occurs most often during a pivot turn. 7. The velcro to keep the cab on the body is craptastic. I won't use it. I instead epoxied neodymium magnets to four points around the cab. Easy on and off with no effort to keep them together. No effect on radio range either. 8. The "suspension" is rediculous for the rear bogey. If you build it as it shows in the manual you end up with a rod that jams itself into the track. wth? Who designed that? I flipped the rods to the top and cut up the spring from a paintball gun. This made it a pushrod that seems less likely to pop off the ball when you jump something. Now I have a moving suspension with adjustable position and preload. What a difference on hard ground to keep the rear-most of the tracks off the ground but still have droop and movement when necessary. 9. The brakes are simply excellent. 10. Do the tracks ever stop stretching? I hope so before I run out of adjustment. 11. Did I mention that the engine hasn't burned out a glow plug after almost a dozen tanks of fuel? It also starts on the first pull...generally. But it floods REALLLY fast. Easy on that primer.12. It's so quiet that I don't mind beside my neighbor's house at midnight. No I'm not kidding. I like driving it at odd times. Basically my free time is after kiddo goes to bed. He doesn't hear it outside his room enough to notice. 13. The kit went together flawlessly. That manual is really good. 14. It seems a little delicate for the money. When I compare the maintenance and durability of this model compared to something similar in price like the Kyosho DBX/DST buggy...I get annoyed. It still seems sturdy though. I'll reflect on this more in about a year. Less than 1" of snow: buggy more than 1": Blizzard! 15. Loads of extra room to add just about anything. I soldered a light system for it and have no lack of space to mount batteries, servos, switches, etc. 16. It's the ug;y-duckling of models and very unique. Even if it isn't jumpable like my Tyco Fasttrax or as durable... I still won't give it up. It's neat. Sorry for the long post. I've been reading everything here. Vintabilly. |
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| kenchoco | Feb 23 2008, 01:47 AM Post #17 |
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awesome |
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| outcastrc | Feb 24 2008, 09:08 AM Post #18 |
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Great observations! I like the maggnet idea
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| Vintabilly | Feb 26 2008, 12:38 PM Post #19 |
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OK. I've been playing with it in powder snow for the first time. We had 7-10" of fresh fluff which over several days turned into snow that was much "packier". 9 tanks of fuel into the fun my crank-pin sheared completely off. I wasn't treating it rough but I was flying over the snow for about an hour. Kyosho is coughing up a new crankshaft immediately though. Thanks Kyosho! I can now say that the snow is the true element of the Blizz. Wow. 1. It may handle better backwards on hard surfaces...but in the snow the weight in the front is the way to go. I'm happy to recant my weight issue. lol 2. Sometimes you get a little furthur down the trail going slower and letting the traction work for you. But rooster tails of snow have their place too. 3. No water on the radio deck! Loads on the top of the body. 4. The tracks have stopped stretching. 5. The paintball-spring mod is working very very nicely. I suggest it. It's near no cost. 6. The transmission seems tough but sometimes gets confused. I'll get a truck for the "off-season". Winter demands tracks however. and I DO live in Canada. lol Love this forum. Thanks guys. |
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this is a quality control problem, but its prolly quicker to get a few RC collets rather than returning parts bags to kyosho...
However I don't think it is quite as fast as the brushless EV in the video gallery. I'll need more space to test that.
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