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Mafia 48
Topic Started: Sep 26 2010, 04:04:36 AM (2,348 Views)
Waddacku
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I'm just fucking tired, that's what my problem is.

Anyway, you may be writing a lot but I've seen little evidence of you paying much attention, your given motivations for votes generally consisting of randomness and whining and Cap'n. At the same time, you go to a great deal of effort to tell everybody else they're being wrong and irrational while not providing any alternative paths yourself. Also your voting pattern.

But we'll see soon enough.
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Lemon: 4 (Fish, Waddy, Luneth, Rei)
Fish: 4 (Lemon, Sleepy, CATZ, Sam)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qDiJkhUMfw

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Luneth
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What does that make us?

We're the big damn heroes.
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17 minutes
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Ain't we just.
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5~
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h'okay, update on le way
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I find it amusing that the lynchees are each other's first lynchers.
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Luneth
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Yes, many things have happened.
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Hell is calling.

Calling for me.

Calling for you.

Shall we go~?
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"Well, great," said WJC, "Now that Steven's dead we don't have anyone to boss us around and pretend they're super awesome, what do?"
"Well... even though killing each other off in an attempt to harvest some sort of salvation from this mess maaaassively backfired last time... let's try it again!" said an unfamiliar voice. It must have been blade. DAMMIT STAY OUT OF MY GAME!
"Sure!" replied LotE, clearly unscathed by Blade's meddling.
Who should we kill? Was the resounding question, which nobody seemed to want to answer. Nobody said anything for days... Then, written on the wall, they all saw it:
"Hurry the fuck up or I'll kill you all >:[ " it was a message, from Ghost-Zoe.
"She seems mad," said Lemon.
"Guess we better figure something out, then..." replied Luneth. Everyone hummed and hawed for a bit and then the discussions started getting heated. Everyone was getting mad and throwing out accusations all over the place. Nobody knew who to lynch of why they were lynching them anymore. But LotE wanted blood and they wanted a lot of it, so much, they decided to throw two people under the bus.

Ghost-Zoe and Blade just kinda chuckled to themselves.

It all basically boiled down to:

:mob: :mob: :mob:

Fish must die. He's been too quiet the past few days. Was verdict # 1. Blade banged his super awesome judge hammer thing, gavel or something it's called, I dunno.
So, four LotErs grabbed Fish in his sleep. Guess he was taking a nap. They stuffed him into a large suitcase and beat it with large lead pipes, for good measure of course. They tossed the suitcase, brutishly, I might add, into a large get away car and drove him to the Local LotE Waterfall!
WJC gave it a good kick, one last time, for good measure before throwing it off the edge. Silently the four LotErs stood at the edge watching as the suitcase exploded on the rocks before even hitting the bottom.
"Whoopsies," they said in unison. Whoopsies indeed...

- - - - - - -

"..."
"I'm sorry!"
"YOU DIDN'T CHECK TO SEE IF HE WAS IN THE SUITCASE BEFORE WE LEFT?!"
"I DIDNT THINK I HAD TO!"
"ugh..."

- - - - - - -

Well, they fucked up. We want more blood so, let's just fuck up Lemon. Was verdict # 2. BANG BANG BANG
"Maybe we shouldn-" stammered someone... "BANG BANG BANG!" shouted Blade, with a look on his face much like this:
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"Okay, looks like we're killing Lemon then...." said Fish.
"And you too," glared a bunch of people.
"Fine whatever, and me too," Fish rolled his eyes, "BUT mark my words, I swear I'm doing something totally awesome here in showing up randomly in the end before Ghost Zoe kills me etc."
"Whatever."

So, they grabbed Fish and Lemon by the arms with their big gorilla hands, they forced them to their knees and they wrapped crude rope around their throats. They slung the ropes over a large oak tree branch and pulled the ropes taut.
"Any last words?" said WJC.
Lemon looked over the crowd, he looked over to his left to see Fish. Carefully he assessed the situation and decided...
"Please don't..." Fish said in reply to the face Lemon was making. Grinning, Lemon gave a thumbs up and closed his eyes.

Nothing could be heard but the sweet sounds of rope rubbing on wood and the distant sound of ravens cawing to LotE softly.

"Sweet, let's see how we did!" said Luneth, making his way back to LotE to search their rooms.


Fish, Vigilante has been lynched
Lemon, The mafioso known as Jonesy has been lynched

count is 4 citizens to 2 mafia
Mafia PM your kill si vous plait



0. Zoe
1. mcap cit; mafia'd night 2
2. Sam
3. Fish Vigilante; lynched day 2
4. Purg cit; mafia'd night 1
5. WJC
6. Sleepy
7. Waddacku
8. Raak detective; lynched day 1
9. Lun
10. Lem Jonesy; lynched day 2
11. Reiiiiiiii
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CATZ
oh u

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Anyway, you may be writing a lot but I've seen little evidence of you paying much attention, your given motivations for votes generally consisting of randomness and whining and Cap'n. At the same time, you go to a great deal of effort to tell everybody else they're being wrong and irrational while not providing any alternative paths yourself. Also your voting pattern.


yep; difference between me and you is that i freely acknowledge that i don't have much if any basis for how i've been voting, not until recently at least. pointless multi-clues are pointless, and no one had thrown out anything significant behavior-wise until this last round, with the significant behavior being that you guys all tried to come up with convincing cover reasons and failed pretty hard, in addition to the last thing you mentioned, your convenient support of each other

oops update

funny that the double lynch i was talking about went down exactly as described, although i didn't count on nailing a role with it
Edited by CATZ, Oct 14 2010, 04:31:56 AM.
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Luneth
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Walter - 1 (Luneth)

I'll just leave this here.
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CATZ
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lol

i'm actually pretty shocked it took you guys this long to come after me, i've been acting aggressively and posting alot since the beginning, which is always a red flag

after all:

The Laws of Mafia Behavior v. 2.0, as invented by 7nr, snpie, me and kaz in some previous games:

1. Whoever writes the most is mafia.

2. If you're taking the game seriously, you're mafia.


3. If you're trying too hard (i.e. defending yourself after being accused), you're mafia.

4. If you change your vote alot, you're suspicious, probably mafia.

5. If you don't go along with the latest lynching fad, you're almost definitely mafia.

6. Whoever places their vote last on a mafioso's lynch is likely to also be mafia. I don't think Snpie, Kaz or Ronny ever actually said this one, but I definitely saw someone say it somewhere.

7. The more active a player is, the more likely it is that they are mafia. It is not a guarantee, but it increases their mafia likelihood.

8. Players who consistently vote together, especially if they are going against the latest lynching fad, are more likely to be mafia. You should look for pairs or perhaps a group of 3 who do this.

9. Someone who makes accusations without proof should probably be lynched, unless it is Cap'n and ZoZo voting on each other, in which case a double lynch is the proper course of action.

10. The Laws are absolute (or closer to it), while the Clues are not. If the Laws indicate one person, while the Clues indicate another, one should trust in the Laws.

11. If you disagree with or deny ANY of the above rules, you are 100% guaranteed mafia.

12. Say whatever works at the time, do whatever it takes to get the person lynched. You should have no constant standards, other than the Laws, of course.

13. When someone dies, you should remember their last words, especially if it's me.

Also, anything Magus says is true, but he's said nothing so far.

Addendum: One should study the behavior of one's fellow players and keep in mind the personal Laws which apply only to certain individuals. For example, the likelihood that Cap'n is mafia is directly proportional to the number of night phases that he has gone without being attacked by mafia. Lemon will not directly tell a lie, and Lemon also regularly posts huge analyses of clues even when it's totally unnecessary, so Law #1 isn't a dead giveaway with him. etc

cap'n picked up on it almost right away
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Waddacku
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Except the double lynch you were in on didn't contain the one mafia we got now, who I was advocating the death of.

Also that list is still bullshit and you're a nigger.
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Luneth
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Not gonna lie, you've been pretty shifty. I just felt like trying to use clues to justify it this time around.
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CATZ
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Except the double lynch you were in on didn't contain the one mafia we got now, who I was advocating the death of.


don't know what you're talking about

lemon created the first double-lynch by going after fish, then by the time i came back it turned into a triple lynch (which i fully supported despite the stuff i pointed out about it), then when lunny fucked that up i went for a double-lynch again by voting for fish

i'm all for the multi-lynches
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Blade Myrmidon
there's never enough time

LOL, cool story kaz

it's amazing, this game, people are actually discussing stuff for once (at least, to a greater extent anyway)

i don't think there's been a period of inactivity yet
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CATZ
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Also that list is still bullshit and you're a nigger.


your resistance to the list is hilarious, because your own behavior (and that of others) proves that the list is not, in fact, bullshit

what makes me suspicious? aggressive behavior; taking the game seriously (or appearing to); writing alot, as if i have alot riding on the outcome of the lynch; etc. if you had better reasons to suspect me than this, you would've posted them already (admittedly you tried, but your given reasons were terrible). voting patterns maybe? this wouldn't be proof of anything until you knew lemon was mafia though, and you were obviously suspicious of me well before that. in addition consider law #8:

Players who consistently vote together, especially if they are going against the latest lynching fad, are more likely to be mafia. You should look for pairs or perhaps a group of 3 who do this.

obviously this is now going to be called upon to lynch me next day phase cause i voted with lemon

the laws are just a list of traits that tend to draw attention or generate suspicion, and/or reasons that people often fall back to when they have nothing solid to go on but suspect someone anyways; for another example consider this quote from you earlier

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Honestly, all in all, looking over who voted for who and all that, Luneth strikes me as smelling of mafia. Plenty of leading on lynches with weak reasoning, populism, and all that other wonderful stuff.


compare with law #9: Someone who makes accusations without proof should probably be lynched

pretty much verbatim your reasoning against luneth

of course not all the laws have even a remote basis in people's behavior, but stuff like law #13 is just there to give away the fact that the laws are not serious, and are instead sarcastic and pretty much just me making fun of how mafia works, the fact that it's ruled by hunches/suspicions/general fear mongering and how shitty of a system that is, the funniest part of it all is that people often seem to take them dead serious anyways
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It at the moment looks like my suspicion of Luneth was wrong. I don't have a problem admitting that. At the point I made the argument, though, his behavior had been far more mafia favoring than that of the others up for lynching.

And you want to give the appearance of not taking the game seriously, if anything. None of the things you claim make you suspicious were prevalent before my posts this day phase.

Too few points on the list have any merit, and also it's lame copypasta. That's why it's bullshit. Of course it's not serious, that still doesn't make its presence pleasant.
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CATZ
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It at the moment looks like my suspicion of Luneth was wrong. I don't have a problem admitting that. At the point I made the argument, though, his behavior had been far more mafia favoring than that of the others up for lynching.


yep, new information caused you to change your mind, which is entirely beside the point. the key words are: "At the point I made the argument," at which point his behavior was "Plenty of leading on lynches with weak reasoning, populism, and all that other wonderful stuff." In other words, law #9, and you considered this to be cause for suspicion of him all on its own

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And you want to give the appearance of not taking the game seriously, if anything.


if that's what you want to think, you can go on ahead

because, you know, don't care

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None of the things you claim make you suspicious were prevalent before my posts this day phase.


i didn't say they've been prevalent from the start, or if i did, that's beside the point anyways; my point is just that they're there in some capacity, and caused me to draw suspicion at some point, which must be true unless you're aiming at me because you just drew my name out of a hat (or unless you have better reasons, which you don't)

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Too few points on the list have any merit, and also it's lame copypasta. That's why it's bullshit.


i personally don't think any of them have any merit, but people frequently use these reasons whether they're aware of what they're doing or not, which is why i came up with the list to begin with

it's interesting that you'd admit that at least a few of them have merit despite the magnitude to which you seem to hate them, though

and obviously, even more interesting is the fact that you yourself have utilized the reasons on the list during the same game in which you're attacking the list

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Of course it's not serious, that still doesn't make its presence pleasant.


it's serious to you; if you're bothered by it, to the point of speaking out against it, then clearly you care about its presence in some manner

which of course informs me that it was a bad choice to not post 'em til late this game, i'll have to step up and start posting them right away again
Edited by CATZ, Oct 14 2010, 08:20:19 PM.
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They're a mild annoyance, that's all. Why are you blowing everything so out of proportion?

Anyway, Lemon did go for you on the first day, which alleviates suspicion, other than him disregarding you and going for raak (with Luneth as suggested alternative).
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CATZ
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They're a mild annoyance, that's all. Why are you blowing everything so out of proportion?


who's blowing what out of proportion now? i said you were bothered by them, not waging a holy war against them, though you do like to go out of your way to call bullshit whenever they show up

i like this back and forth where we both try to take the high ground by accusing the other guy of caring more/taking things more seriously than we do, it's a good indicator of how silly this game is, that taking it seriously is viewed in a negative light
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I didn't know you could change this

gg and good luck, glad it's continuing instead of ending.
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I've always got high ground 'cuz I'm taller than you.
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HIYOOOOO!
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I’m backing him a hundred and ten percent. That means I could backtrack ten percent and I’d still be completely behind him.


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THAT IS QUITE AN INTERESTING ANECDOTE DEAR FRIEND
ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING
COOL STORY BRO
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CATZ
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can't argue with that logic
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Lemon
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I didn't know you could change this

So it was you.

Being the 3rd 6'4" guy.
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I'm clearly the first one, as I matter most.
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I didn't know you could change this

I can't deny you because you're taller than me.
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okay so I'm going to go get junkfood to ease away my tears and then when I get back ill do the write up ;D
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That's a long time for junk food.
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I didn't know you could change this

maybe she never came back
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CATZ
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gasp

the mafia must have gotten her, oh noes
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Blade Myrmidon
there's never enough time

tears are always hard to be rid of

;_;
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uuugh sorry guys! bunch of crap came up that night and I've been working ever since
tonight after work I PROMISE I will do the write up; first thing when I get home
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ahahahahahaha
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CATZ
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rofl

i don't know why people bother to make promises on this site anymore
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Lemon
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I didn't know you could change this

I think it's only me that goes out of my way to break every one of them.
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Are you guys dead yet?
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I didn't know you could change this

Honestly I'd rather just wait for her to do the next write-up then start the next game, and I'm dead!
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Me too, just a halloween reminder yo
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Blade Myrmidon
there's never enough time

cool mafia
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*twiddles thumbs*
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I’m backing him a hundred and ten percent. That means I could backtrack ten percent and I’d still be completely behind him.


Rugter
 
THAT IS QUITE AN INTERESTING ANECDOTE DEAR FRIEND
ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING
COOL STORY BRO
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CATZ
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so......................

mafia 49?
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Oct 14 2010, 04:29:40 AM

0. Zoe
1. mcap cit; mafia'd night 2
2. Sam
3. Fish Vigilante; lynched day 2
4. Purg cit; mafia'd night 1
5. WJC
6. Sleepy
7. Waddacku
8. Raak detective; lynched day 1
9. Lun
10. Lem Jonesy; lynched day 2
11. Reiiiiiiii
k I'll update, just putting this here so I can use it for reference when i do the write up

really really sorry about the wait guys, got busy and just straight up forgot about this
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"Fuck it," said waddacku, "Let's get drunk." he was growing more and more paranoid and wanted a drink to calm his nerves. He figured everyone would be less of a threat if they were intoxicated as well.
"Wha-?" replied Sam, "I mean, don't get me wrong or anything, I'm not saying no, definitely not saying no, but now of all times?
"If someone is gonna string me up by my intestines, I wanna be drunk." Waddacku said dryly, his voice was composed entirely of honesty.
"Sure," said WJC.
"I'm game, I guess." Sleepy, this time.
"Fuck yes, about time, the entire point of us getting together was to party." said Luneth, followed by a highfive from Sam. Reikken just sat, carefully examining the situation, he thought silently to himself for a brief moment.
"Sure." He finally said. You couldn't tell whether he was being sarcastic or just really didn't feel up to it, either way his lack of true agreement behind the word was apparent. So the remaining LotErs went down to the local bar.



- - - - - - - -

Reikken didn't drink. He especially didn't drink when the mafia were lurking about among the very people he lived with. He sat silently at the bar, drinking coca cola, disguised as rum and coke. Sam and Luneth were drunk beyond comprehension. They were trying to pull moves on the stuffed goat covered in flakes of dust that was happily sitting, rejected, in the corner. Waddacku sat, surrounded by cheap wanna-be cops, having a laugh and drinking a strong beer. His laugh was all gut and very hearty, it could be heard over even the loudest country music. Sleepy stood by the pool table talking to WJC. Nobody could tell what they were saying, they were talking very quietly.

Suddenly there was a very loud bang. Three overly-drunk men were throwing fists at each other and one was threatening the others with a broken beer bottle. Everyone gathered around to watch the fiasco. Reikken stood from his seat at the bar. He couldn't stand the noise anymore. He took a quick glance to the crowd and noticed all the LotErs were there, watching like animals. He let out a sigh of relief and went outside for some fresh air. He hoped nobody had noticed him leave.
Nobody was outside, you could hear glasses smashing inside and it sounded like someone broke a pool cue, as well. You could no longer hear Waddacku's hearty laugh. Reikken sat against the wall and slumped over. It was such a nice night outside and it pained him to think it might be one of his last. He sat for a few minutes, reminiscing about the past just staring at the stars. Who would have thought that getting the LotErs together would turn into a giant blood bath?

"It's quiet." said a voice. Reikken turned to see who it was, but the light was behind his face so all he saw was shadow.
"Indeed." He replied questioningly.
"You seem on edge?" replied the voice. "It's just me, Sleepy."
"Ah." said Reikken dryly. He was very suspicious of him, not to say he wasn't suspicious of everyone.
"Relax. I just needed to get some fresh air, it's not like I'm going to kill you," said Sleepy, with a small chuckle.
"But I am." said another voice from behind.
"Wha-" said Sleepy, "Who's there?!" before he could even flinch, blood splattered across his face. He shifted slightly out of the light to see Reikken collapsed to his knees. He was holding his chest and blood was seeping out of the space between his fingers. A pool cue was lodged into his heart. He fell backwards and Sleepy cringed as his body slowly slid along the splintered remains of the cue until it reached the ground. He looked to see who had done it but no one was there.

Reikken, citizen has been killed by the mafia
It is now day three, lynch please


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WJC - 1 (Luneth)
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WJC is more obvious than I'd like, but I'm not finding much else in the way of clues.
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Rugter
 
THAT IS QUITE AN INTERESTING ANECDOTE DEAR FRIEND
ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING
COOL STORY BRO
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meh

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