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Mafia 41
Topic Started: Dec 27 2009, 02:40:37 AM (2,270 Views)
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Llednar, cit, was lynched, PMs now, etc, unless the cits actually just lost.
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0.AP (GM)
1. Magus
2. Lemon - Detective, Mafia'd
3. Cap'n - Vigilante, Mafia'd
4.Androd - Cit, Mafia'd
5. WJC, my hero--wait, wrong one - Bodyguard, Mafia'd
6.BK
7.Luneth - cit, lynched
8.rn7
9.MSB - cit, lynched
10.Purg - mafia, lynched
11.R2D(2) - cit, mafia'd
12.Stewy
13. Reikken
14.Llednar - cit, lynched
15.Roymbrog - Cit, lynch'd
16.Blaed - Mafia, Lynch'd
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Cits just lost. After this night, mafia will equal cits, so it's over.

Good game mafia, and good acting.
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make the last one stewy
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The worst part is, neither Rei or Magus would have let those later lynches go down, but they were absent.
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They were here, they just didn't post.
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Yeah, I feel bad for ignoring this game. I'll make sure to actually do stuff if I sign-up next time.
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So, rn7 and stewy were the last two? I was going to tell you guys in my last words that I thought rn7 was mafia (I thought I was a really obvious target), but the update came too quickly. 3 hour night phases are waaaaay shorter than what I'm used to, but I guess APman would get bored with this otherwise. Stewy had me fooled though.

And I want to know how those big eyes weren't Luneth. That seemed way too obvious.
Edited by R2D2, Jan 3 2010, 12:50:55 AM.
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BK!

BK!


BK!
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3 hour night phase, huh?


Also, BK, ronny, Purg, and Blaed were mafia.

I'll do a clue write-up in a minute.


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Then from behind him came, "Hey, son."


Purg has a kid.

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"He was the vig, I thought zombies were evil?"


EVIL

PALADINS KILL EVIL

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humming a song about some cleaver that was a pretty cool guy and didn't afraid of anything, while holding a longsword, didn't make much sense, but, hey, making sense wasn't his job.


Sanger Zonvolt's theme is Cleaver of Evil, as I recall.

Or The Sword that Smites Evil.

Smite Evil, Paladin.

Longswords, I've heard, are the traditional weapon of Paladins.

Paladins never make sense.

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"YOU! CITRUS FRUIT TYPE THING! I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL!" The Mafia shouted, forgetting about the element of surprise.


A PALADIN WOULD THINK A SURPRISE ATTACK DISHONORABLE

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"Now, this is the part where I go into an evil monologue, and take up four hours of your time while you listen to the cutscene, then finish it off with an evil, maniacal laugh, and then we fight, for what seems like hours, until finally, you strike me down with the power of LOVE AND GOODNESS! ..Wait, I thought that was me, what the hell? This isn't the job I signed up for!"


Generic protagonist meets generic villain.

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He still hadn't gotten over Lemonlad's comment of him being generic, and it inspired furious anger, and great vengeance to well up inside of him.


Righteous man, furious anger, great vengeance. The former is what a Paladin thinks of him/herself or his/her master/employer/etc.

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The Mafia, while swinging, cut Road's head off from sheer luck.


A little vague, D&D characters can cut off their own heads if they fail enough.

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FUCK YEAH FOR THE LIGHT OF THE GODFATHER!"


I dunno, maybe that's what a Paladin would say after killing a villain?

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Android was hackin' and whackin' and smackin'.

Hackin' and whackin' and smackin'.


Fallout 3, ronny played it at one point and posted stuff about it or something, I don't really remember.

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The Mafia lol'd, "nub", then took out his sword.

Then he disappeared.

Then reappeared.

And disappeared.

And reappeared.


FE7 Lyn (at least) critical animation.

Criticals are random and luck based.

Random number. Seven is generally lucky.


Edited by APman, Jan 3 2010, 01:22:47 AM.
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Oh god, this game made me laugh so much.
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Me too.
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It made me kinda cry near the end, when the game was almost dying of inactivity.

...FROM THE PLAYERS.
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Sorry about ditching you the first day man, but with AP destroying the clue I found, what could be done?

Honestly all the clues were fairly obvious, though.
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You don't normally associate BK with paladins, especially since he had an evil monologue. I liked my War40k comparison better. The moment I saw that "For the Mafia" I knew it was a clue for BK.

Also, the fuck do I have to do with Lyn? And crit=lucky=random, the fuck? Your last clue sucked! Critical attack's been overused as a clue any way.
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Nothing.

But your name is--OH FUCK WAIT ITS RANDOM NINJA 7
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Newbies wouldn't know that, lol.

Also, crit=random is a stretch, since that post was more about the crit than it was about the random.
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i was playing fe7 at the time

I dunno about you guys, but crits are terribly random and incredibly lucky for me to get, and 7 is a lucky number or something.

There was something else to it, too, but I forget it at the moment.
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make the last one stewy
I interpreted this as rn7 telling stewy to kill the last person. I thought BK was the last one, so know this makes much more sense.

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3 hour night phase, huh?


Dec 30 2009, 04:01:59 PM - Dec 30 2009, 07:13:03 PM. That how long the night phase lasted where I died.
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Why would the night phase matter any way? If you were gonna spill your guts and tell everyone to REMEMBER MY WORDS BEFORE I DIE, you're one of the reasons why mafia is a snore.
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I was gonna tell them to kill you too, man. But i came back and both lynch phase and night phase were over.
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Yea, that happens, and should happen. Otherwise the game would have ended much earlier, and been much more dead, considering BK only recently decided to come back. A simple Purg lynch, me lynch, likely Blade lynch, and inevitable death by inactivity isn't what I'd call an entertaining game.

edit: that said, much props to the bk for coming back just in the nick of time. if it weren't for him, we woulda probably lost
Edited by rn7, Jan 3 2010, 02:17:34 AM.
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I agree, fuck you, Jake.
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And I want to know how those big eyes weren't Luneth. That seemed way too obvious.
Hey, I'm interested in how this links to BK as well.

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The Mafia's eyes went huge and insane, like a cartoon.
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Are we gonna wait a while until the next game or start the signups right now?
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maek topic now
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there's never enough time

lolo

Yeah, we were saved by BK really. Also we won only due to player inactivity, as well as some random confusion caused by rn7.

Amusing game.
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I'm pretty sure it was Sam who told me to go vote too.

Thanks Sam.
Ever look at your forum old signature, and feel like you were some kind of fag when you got that done?
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If I had known....
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Night one investigation: Blaed.
Night 2: rn7.
Night 3: dead, but I was thinking about BK (srsly).

Purg died fast, and I was fairly certain that bk killed me because Paladins and RIVAL and his return at that moment to bandwagon with who I knew was mafia.

EDIT: also, good game.
Edited by Lemon, Jan 3 2010, 09:39:05 PM.
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Come on now guys, I gave this one away and you still botched it somehow. Observe:

2. If you're taking the game seriously, you're mafia.

rn7 was taking the game pretty seriously, look at this:

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Dead people, kindly shut the fuck up and stop posting here. There are 3 mafia left, while 8 cits still remain. That means the cits can fuck up at least 4 times and still have hope of taking the game, and that's if we don't get a mafia in a lynch.


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Lynch a cit, 3-7. mafia, 3-6. follow that pattern, any 3 misses is permanent, and between idiocy and inactivity, it's pretty guaranteed.


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Stop posting, seriously. You aren't helping anything.


Plus, actually trying to figure out clues and vote accurately.

5. If you don't go along with the latest lynching fad, you're almost definitely mafia.

Look at the round where Blade was lynched, instead of hopping on the Blade bandwagon, rn7 voted for roy, going against the current lynching fad. Now that one should've been a dead giveaway, though at that point I guess it was too late and there weren't enough active cits anyway.

Really though, all you had to do was remember my last words. If interpreted correctly by a trained eye, the Laws will always indicate the Mafia, without fail.
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too bad your rules didnt save luneth

or yourself, lololol
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I didn't know you could change this

Well, they worked pretty good for me!

...Until I died.
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you didn't need your rules to see that rn7 was pretty damn suspicious already. Your common senses should be tingling already.

And at my lynching, there was no other choice, apart from outvoting the cits, and causing a double lynch, as we wouldn't have had the upper hand then, so it was even more apparent we were mafia. Of course, this only works out due to inactivity.

Also, I knew you investigated me Lemon, since you were going after me so thoroughly without any real clues, haha.
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In future games though, please don't post in the topic if you're dead.
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In future games though, please don't post in the topic if you're dead.
Also blaed the laws > clues.
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Clues change from one game to the next, but the Laws are absolute.
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yeah, i understand what you're saying, but the laws aren't entirely absolute. There are flaws, in that it depends on the users perceptions. Clues, while changing, are absolute in the sense that if you're right, you're right.

In this way, both clues and Laws are subjective, and are in no way absolute, therefore, fundamentally flawed. That means you cannot entirely depend on them, as you cannot entirely trust clues to lead you to a correct answer, as there will always be a possibility of them being wrong.

What I mean is that this argument is moot and pointless, and will lead nowhere but in circles.

Edit: Just wanted to add, I understand why you guys follow the Laws, as it is usually much easier to discern the behaviour of one, as that will always be present in a mafia game, and people may not always interpret clues correctly.

Also Lemon, I don't believe the Laws are entirely greater than Clues, even you gave in at the sight of a blatant clue in the first round. They are pretty much used to only build suspicion of another, which works both ways for cits and mafia applying pressure to act, and you only began voting on me when you discovered my identity as detective, which isn't entirely inherent in the Laws.
Edited by Blade Myrmidon, Jan 4 2010, 03:08:30 AM.
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If by absolute, you mean absolute crock, I agree.
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They cannot be absolute crock, for they successfully indicated at least mafia during this game when applied properly, and would likely indicate the others if I had enough motivation to go back and apply them to other people as well.
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You could equally apply them to innocent people, and it would work. Namely, Luneth.
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In fact, I might have to agree with you there rn7.

They definitely aren't laws, but a very loose outline in general behaviour. Of course, those with a trained eye are going to get it, they're the ones who are the most perceptive, and would have a greater ability to suspect others, and generally they don't follow the laws anyway (case in point, Lemon and WJC already). That just seems like such a false reason to completely trust in the Laws, and you only bring them up when it suits your own purpose.

They can be there as a framework for suspicion, but even Lemon didn't completely act on the Laws until he had firm proof, i.e. he was detective so he had absolute confirmation of roles, etc, and used it as a basis to try and cast some suspicion on me, in light of his findings.
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I didn't know you could change this

Actually...

7. If you disagree with or deny ANY of the above rules, you are 100% guaranteed mafia.

Which is true, since both rn7 and blaed were mafia.
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That may be true, but the game is over. I'm unaligned. I have no motive to defend or attack the rules.
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I dunno, man. Rules 3 and 7 make you seem awfully like a mafia right now.
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I don't ever use the laws. I do study behaviour and use it, but not according to a check list. I play each situation by ere, then die early.
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Which one are those again?
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