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| APman | Mar 20 2008, 07:53:39 AM Post #401 |
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What can I say? I give the people what they want. And by 'people' I mean Mafia. And by 'what they want' I mean a proper chance at life. |
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| mr_e_s | Mar 20 2008, 12:49:57 PM Post #402 |
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Why do you always have to justify your death, Kevin? That's pretty pathetic. |
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| Joe | Mar 21 2008, 12:16:31 AM Post #403 |
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Hey, I got hit by the vig. At least Kevin was doing it right. |
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| Wirtjr | Mar 21 2008, 12:17:40 AM Post #404 |
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That's true, the vigilante kinda dropped the ball on that one. |
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| Joe | Mar 21 2008, 12:42:31 AM Post #405 |
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Srsly, vig, you DO NOT kill on the first night, when you have no clues to go on. |
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| Wirtjr | Mar 21 2008, 12:44:20 AM Post #406 |
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Unless you kill Garo. Then it's okay. But he's the only one you're allowed to kill. |
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| Claire de Lune | Mar 21 2008, 12:45:18 AM Post #407 |
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Hey, the vig can still kill someone >> Sure, they have a greater chance of killing a cit, but they might actually hit mafia. It's happened before >> And there's more cits than mafia so one cit won't matter too much in the beginning ><" |
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| Joe | Mar 21 2008, 01:50:39 AM Post #408 |
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That's so wrong I don't even have the right words to try to express why it's wrong. If you have a greater chance of killing a cit, why the fuck would you just take the chance when there's no reason to? Sure, you could kill the Godfather and tottally disorient the mafia for the rest of the game, but you're still a dumbass for taking the chance of hitting a cit. Why? Because the cit count is just as important at the begging as it is at the end. If the vig says DUR HUR HURRR" and decides to attack someone every night without proof, he's almost guaranteed to reduce the cit count, which makes it that much easier for the mafia to win. That's one less day the mafia has to avoid lynching, one less person who could vote to lynch a mafia and avoid a misfire, and one less person who's going to try to actually help the cits. Every time a dumbass vig shoots without knowing what they're doing, they're more or less a mafia meber with the slight chance to help the cits. ANGRY RANT |
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| APman | Mar 22 2008, 04:16:07 AM Post #409 |
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The vigilante hitting the Mafia on the first night is equal to the Mafia hitting the Vig on the first night. You know, only the vig has a SLIGHTLY HIGHER CHANCE. emphasis on the slight A vig can go ahead and kill on the first night but he sure as Hell shouldnt be expecting a Mafia dead. |
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| Joe | Mar 22 2008, 03:03:28 PM Post #410 |
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If you expect to kill a cit (or the bodyguard or the detective) rather than a mafia, why do it at all? |
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| Whale | Mar 22 2008, 05:02:32 PM Post #411 |
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There's no reason to. |
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| Jackytf the member the admin | Mar 23 2008, 01:11:28 AM Post #412 |
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Here, here! |
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R.I.P.: Lauder, the lv. 1 Shadowmaster Henreid, some lv. 9 Wanderer Bobby, a lv. 1 Officer and
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| Claire de Lune | Mar 23 2008, 03:27:50 AM Post #413 |
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Yes, the most likely thing to happen is that the vig will kill a cit, but there's still a chance they'll hit a mafia member. It's like a game of baseball/softball. More than likely you're going to hit the ball either towards shortstop, third, or maybe second, but there's a chance you'll hit the pocket right in between short and second, and if you do it is really sweet XD Sorry for the random sports reference >> I'm tired, and it's the only analogy I could use to get my point across ^^" |
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| Jackytf the member the admin | Mar 23 2008, 07:03:42 AM Post #414 |
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No. In that scenario, there is skill involved. Hell, if it were a 50/50 chance of hitting a mafia, you might begin to have some twisted, bastardized monstrosity of a point. But it's not. By killing on the first night, the vig is doing a great service to the mafia. That's all there is to it. |
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| Sniper | Mar 23 2008, 07:31:01 AM Post #415 |
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It's too obvious that the cits raped the shit out of the mafia. Just give up. :( |
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| Claire de Lune | Mar 23 2008, 06:59:02 PM Post #416 |
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Hitting the hole isn't a 50/50 percent chance. Very rarely do I see people ever hit that spot, so it's chances aren't that high. But some people still manage to hit it, and it's so uber when they do >> And it's not like the vig intentionally goes after cits, and the numbers are still greatly in favor of cits even if the vig hits one, so I can't see how it's a 'great' service to the mafia. It doesn't help them too too much, considering the mafia still have to worry about the rest of the people. It all just depends on how the cards unfold ^^" |
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| Jackytf the member the admin | Mar 23 2008, 10:28:21 PM Post #417 |
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:fc: |
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| ???, the big Softie | Mar 23 2008, 11:25:06 PM Post #418 |
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cool story bro
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I lol'd |
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| mr_e_s | Mar 24 2008, 12:12:00 AM Post #419 |
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*tags in* Because, one less cit often would mean one less round. One less round is a godsend to the mafia, who play a very tough game of survival, and every round lessened is a great service to the mafia, so much so, that if a vig isn't hitting regularily, they'll often be left alive, in the hopes they remain unlucky. In the off chance a vig hits a mafia member in the first round, it's a big blow, you're right, but the odds of that aren't much better than accidentally hitting the bodyguard or detective, which would be a much bigger blow to the cits. Let's say there are 23 people playing, with 5 mafia (there really should be seven, but I haven't been constantly reminding everyone of the one mafia for every three people chosen guideline), which leaves 15 cits, vig, bodyguard, detective So, that would mean a 5/22 chance of hitting mafia, a 2/22 chance of hitting bodyguard or detective, and a 15/22 chance of hitting a cit. So, About 70% chance of being a dumb fuck-up, an 8% chance of being an unlucky dumb fuck up, and a 22% of being a dumb lucky bastard. |
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| Joe | Apr 3 2008, 08:13:47 PM Post #420 |
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First dead. Again. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE! |
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| mr_e_s | Apr 4 2008, 09:57:31 PM Post #421 |
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Well, you were vig killed, I was mafia killed, so stop complaining. Or complain more, I dunno. |
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| Joe | Apr 5 2008, 12:52:39 PM Post #422 |
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Seriously. I'm really starting to hate our dumbass vigs. |
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| APman | Apr 6 2008, 12:10:53 AM Post #423 |
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I got killed by nobody. I'm that good. |
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| Blade Myrmidon | Apr 6 2008, 01:26:19 AM Post #424 |
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there's never enough time
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'sup guys |
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| BlackKnight1239, eh? | Apr 6 2008, 11:37:34 PM Post #425 |
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Ace Attorney
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*facepalms @ death* |
Ever look at your forum old signature, and feel like you were some kind of fag when you got that done?![]()
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| mr_e_s | Apr 7 2008, 02:13:51 PM Post #426 |
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I mean, c'mon, how does the bg still not save me first, in game 17? It's pretty common knowledge I'm an early target! |
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| Ramoth | Apr 7 2008, 05:25:22 PM Post #427 |
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teh dutch g1rl
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There are more targets that are always hit first. So the BG just has to hope he picks the right one |
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| mr_e_s | Apr 7 2008, 06:44:23 PM Post #428 |
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Hey the non-bitching living have no place here! BUY SOMETHING AND GET OUT! |
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| Ramoth | Apr 7 2008, 07:41:07 PM Post #429 |
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teh dutch g1rl
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*refuses* |
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| mr_e_s | Apr 7 2008, 07:49:45 PM Post #430 |
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Fair enough, I've long since stopped caring, but that's not a very friendly thing to do, breaking mafia rules and all that. |
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| Ramoth | Apr 7 2008, 07:51:51 PM Post #431 |
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Well, if I had actually read the rules, that would maybe mean something
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| BlackKnight1239, eh? | Apr 7 2008, 11:48:05 PM Post #432 |
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*buys something* |
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| Claire de Lune | Apr 12 2008, 12:55:18 PM Post #433 |
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I'm...really confused >> I mean, I figured I was going out. The clues against me seemed obvious in my opinion, but that might be just because I already knew I was it and could see how they relate. At least I got a cool note...And a scarf XD Whyyyy are there three people dead though...Gah I'm kinda glad I'm not in anymore, because this game is too hard. If it's a double mafia hit, then mafia will end up winning this round more than likely >> *Pessimism* |
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| Joe | Apr 12 2008, 04:11:59 PM Post #434 |
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So, wait, does that mean I wasn't vigged, then? |
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| Claire de Lune | Apr 12 2008, 10:23:41 PM Post #435 |
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No, you weren't vig'd. You don't even know how mad I got when you started bashing on the vig ><" I didn't kill you T.T That's why I was confused....2 mafia hits |
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| Joe | Apr 13 2008, 02:02:18 AM Post #436 |
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Huh. I'm not sure if that makes me more or less angry. |
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| Claire de Lune | Apr 13 2008, 03:41:51 PM Post #437 |
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It makes me angry >> I don't think it's fair. Only two people should die per update... |
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| Whale | Apr 21 2008, 11:33:15 PM Post #438 |
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o noez, i dieded. |
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| Claire de Lune | May 5 2008, 10:41:05 PM Post #439 |
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Wow >> That was so awesome that I took out another major role with me ><" I figured I'd be taking down a regular cit with me, which my fellow mafia members would have liked, but I suppose this is better >> I'm sorry for having to do that though Pheonix T.T I felt bad going after you... |
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| rn7 | May 6 2008, 06:45:38 PM Post #440 |
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No sympathy, jerk. |
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| mr_e_s | May 7 2008, 12:44:14 AM Post #441 |
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I love how unanimously wrong everyone but me and the two-three mafia who voted for me were. Me: Hey, these clues all fit perfectly with Markus! ZoZo: HE HAS AN EYEPATCH! Everyone: Hmm, she's clearly not mafia or suspicious at all, lynch sensei! Morons. |
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| Jackytf the member the admin | May 7 2008, 01:18:46 AM Post #442 |
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What? That's not how it happened at all! I'm the one that came up with the eyepatch. If only kratos had been here... V_V |
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| mr_e_s | May 7 2008, 01:21:38 AM Post #443 |
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Well, you [the rest of this was omitted, due to spoilers] Fucker. |
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| Zoe | May 8 2008, 12:58:38 AM Post #444 |
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well looks like you got what you wanted papie, no hard feelings?
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| Dialga | May 8 2008, 01:09:52 AM Post #445 |
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Nothing new...
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Train your Zombies mr_e_s |
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| Zoe | May 8 2008, 01:24:57 AM Post #446 |
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Also, this pretty much convicts me of being mafia, how unfair |
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| rn7 | May 8 2008, 01:52:41 AM Post #447 |
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Yea, that dead people's clue speculation(tm) is seeing a rise. Saw it last game. |
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| simplechild | May 9 2008, 04:45:49 AM Post #448 |
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Pain isn't funny... enough.
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v_v.......... not again... |
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| Luneth | May 9 2008, 05:21:25 PM Post #449 |
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Possibly Fake Luneth
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It's really a drag that I figured out who the mafia (every member) was in the last clue. |
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| mr_e_s | May 10 2008, 12:06:03 AM Post #450 |
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ZoZo, I openly accused you beforehand. |
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