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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 11 2007, 10:43:35 PM (326 Views) | |
| dagoldenclip2 | Mar 11 2007, 10:43:35 PM Post #1 |
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Well I am writing my own story and I do my best to keep it as cliche free as possible. However, despite my limited imagination, I still wonder whether or not there is anything that wont be cliche storyline wise. What would be a good plot twist that wouldnt be cliche. Use any game, story, etc.
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Ike and Lethe. I really want to see them end up together, partly because I hate Ike x Elincia, and partly because I like all Main Character x Catgirl pairings. Phoenix_Kensai | |
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| Reknamarken | Mar 11 2007, 10:49:49 PM Post #2 |
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Everything in writing is cliche'. |
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| BookwormGamer | Mar 11 2007, 10:51:14 PM Post #3 |
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Cliches aren't bad. They're bad if overused and unnecessary. The Darth Vader cliche is bad in the Inheritance Trilogy. The "like father like son" cliche is excellent in Kite Runner. |
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| rn7 | Mar 11 2007, 10:56:08 PM Post #4 |
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It's hard to write without running into a cliche here or there, especially if you're beginning. The important thing is that if you do have cliches, present them in an original manner. And yes, cliches by themselves are bad. They're overused, unoriginal, and boring. |
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| dagoldenclip2 | Mar 11 2007, 11:04:43 PM Post #5 |
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So they can be used in a good way as long as they are presented correctly? Would the Tales series be a good example? They use alot of cliches, however, I found that they weren't in the way or annoying. |
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Ike and Lethe. I really want to see them end up together, partly because I hate Ike x Elincia, and partly because I like all Main Character x Catgirl pairings. Phoenix_Kensai | |
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| rn7 | Mar 11 2007, 11:10:53 PM Post #6 |
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i dunno lol ¯\(º_o)/¯ never played tales games Driving forces behind games are different from the ones behind writing. While it may contain cliches and whatnot, the gameplay, characters, graphics, and game in its entirety make up for the overused plotlines. |
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| BookwormGamer | Mar 11 2007, 11:14:30 PM Post #7 |
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And over used plotlines... EVERY plotline can be generalized and compared with another. However, see, if you do a plot similar to Star Wars, you don't have to have the main character be a farm boy. The main character doesn't have to live on the outskirts of the Empire, either, and certainly doesn't have to have a Darth Vader for a father. Isn't that right, Paolini? |
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| dagoldenclip2 | Mar 11 2007, 11:50:34 PM Post #8 |
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I see. That makes sense. Thank you guys. This will have a great effect on my story. |
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Ike and Lethe. I really want to see them end up together, partly because I hate Ike x Elincia, and partly because I like all Main Character x Catgirl pairings. Phoenix_Kensai | |
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| BlackKnight1239, eh? | Mar 12 2007, 03:51:29 AM Post #9 |
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Ace Attorney
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Wow, Book, you really hate that guy. |
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| rn7 | Mar 12 2007, 03:52:34 AM Post #10 |
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Who is he? |
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| cjrocker577 | Mar 12 2007, 03:59:09 AM Post #11 |
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Major Lazer
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the eragon guy? |
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| rn7 | Mar 12 2007, 04:01:31 AM Post #12 |
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*doesn't read fantasy* |
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| An Guy, Went To War, Surrendered | Mar 12 2007, 04:33:22 AM Post #13 |
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Jackytf, slinky slinky everyone loves a slinky
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lol rn7 for LA |
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Some days I wonder if it was worth it. Then, I realize, looking at the sky, that nothing is worth it. After all, what is worth? Worth is nothing. A mere word, invented by humans to signify that we think that we are important, too. We aren't. Then, as I think, I hear a voice calling to me. It calls my name. I walk towards the voice, heedless of my actions. After all, it doesn't matter. It isn't worth the safety. Nothing is worth anything. Walking, I see a man by a fire. He beckons for me to sit. I sit. And he asks me, "Why did you come?" I answer, "Staying there wasn't worth it, as nothing is worth anything." He replies, "If staying there wasn't worth it, and you came here, does not that mean that it was worth it to come here? Begone, you, and think more on the true meaning of life." I wake up the next morning, still in the field, on the ground. I stand. For it is worth it to stand. | |
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| Ice7000 | Mar 12 2007, 04:37:22 AM Post #14 |
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Two things to keep in mind for plot twists: A: Will the reader see it coming? Try to decrease the likelyhood of this B: Is it believable? Part B is imperative. If the twist isn't believable, it will look cheap and made for shock valuable. The ability to make something surprising and believable at the same time is what separates good fiction writers from soap opera screen writers. |
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| An Guy, Went To War, Surrendered | Mar 12 2007, 04:48:15 AM Post #15 |
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Jackytf, slinky slinky everyone loves a slinky
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Pff, weak. This is the best kind of plot twist: Bob had just enjoyed his lunch. "Ah, what a fine day. I sure hope nothing goes wrong!" SUDDENLY, BOB'S SANDWHICH PUNCHED A HOLE IN HIS STOMACH, AND BOB DIED. THEN HE WAS RESSURECTED BY HIS FORMER APPRENTICE BECAUSE HIS FATHER WAS THE RIGHT HAND MAN OF THE EVIL EMPORER AND HE HAD TO SAVE THE To be continued! |
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Some days I wonder if it was worth it. Then, I realize, looking at the sky, that nothing is worth it. After all, what is worth? Worth is nothing. A mere word, invented by humans to signify that we think that we are important, too. We aren't. Then, as I think, I hear a voice calling to me. It calls my name. I walk towards the voice, heedless of my actions. After all, it doesn't matter. It isn't worth the safety. Nothing is worth anything. Walking, I see a man by a fire. He beckons for me to sit. I sit. And he asks me, "Why did you come?" I answer, "Staying there wasn't worth it, as nothing is worth anything." He replies, "If staying there wasn't worth it, and you came here, does not that mean that it was worth it to come here? Begone, you, and think more on the true meaning of life." I wake up the next morning, still in the field, on the ground. I stand. For it is worth it to stand. | |
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| rn7 | Mar 12 2007, 04:51:16 AM Post #16 |
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That makes so much sense it's scary. |
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| Blade Myrmidon | Mar 12 2007, 05:09:52 AM Post #17 |
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there's never enough time
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Nooo! You ruined the story for me! Whyyyyyyyyyyy!!!??!? |
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| An Guy, Went To War, Surrendered | Mar 12 2007, 05:11:00 AM Post #18 |
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Jackytf, slinky slinky everyone loves a slinky
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The story of what? That's my awsum plot twist |
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Some days I wonder if it was worth it. Then, I realize, looking at the sky, that nothing is worth it. After all, what is worth? Worth is nothing. A mere word, invented by humans to signify that we think that we are important, too. We aren't. Then, as I think, I hear a voice calling to me. It calls my name. I walk towards the voice, heedless of my actions. After all, it doesn't matter. It isn't worth the safety. Nothing is worth anything. Walking, I see a man by a fire. He beckons for me to sit. I sit. And he asks me, "Why did you come?" I answer, "Staying there wasn't worth it, as nothing is worth anything." He replies, "If staying there wasn't worth it, and you came here, does not that mean that it was worth it to come here? Begone, you, and think more on the true meaning of life." I wake up the next morning, still in the field, on the ground. I stand. For it is worth it to stand. | |
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| Blade Myrmidon | Mar 12 2007, 05:20:30 AM Post #19 |
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there's never enough time
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Spoiler! I haven't read up to that part yet. <_< |
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| Echo_Djinni | Mar 12 2007, 04:19:03 PM Post #20 |
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TOS was full of RPG cliches and they even brought them out for the player to see. |
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| BookwormGamer | Mar 12 2007, 07:03:18 PM Post #21 |
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Hate's such a...weak word. |
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| Wight | Mar 12 2007, 07:13:29 PM Post #22 |
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:<_<: There's nothing you can do that can't be done. Nothing you can sing that can't be sung. Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game It's easy. All you need is love, all you need is love, All you need is love, love, love is all you need. Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, loooooooove. |
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| Wirtjr | Mar 19 2007, 12:38:25 AM Post #23 |
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Is 'tired old cliche' one? |
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| rn7 | Mar 19 2007, 01:53:11 AM Post #24 |
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Yea, ironic, huh. Or something. |
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| Windy14 | Mar 29 2007, 04:31:53 AM Post #25 |
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if your story begins like It was a dark and stormy night... Thats a cliche |
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