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I've gotten into drawing lately.
Topic Started: Jan 6 2007, 06:24:19 AM (1,220 Views)
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No. >__>

Liek I sed in the PM I sent before I made this post becuz I am teh stoopid tho maybe I'm not, I don't know anything about proportion techniques. I suppose I could crosscheck those against my drawings and see if they sound about right, but I have no idea.

Btw, could you clarify on what you mean by head = 1/2 shoulders?
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I mean the combined width of the shoulders should be the width of the head. That's what I think I read somewhere.

Here are a couple I did this weekend... It seems I'm having trouble drawing anything that pleases me anymore. Maybe I'm just setting my standards too high for my level or something.

Forgive the rather simplistic look of these two. My scanner didn't want to pick up the clothing folds... :/

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Well, no comments on those two yet, but here's another: Saya Takagi from Highschool of the Dead.

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Is there any reason why she says "OH GNOES?" :<_<:

But I like the artwork, though maybe it's just me being sleepy, but something seems wrong with the chest area.
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Because putting a silent G in front of words is the cool thing to do.

Not really sure about her chest.
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Another. I know the hand is messed up. I didn't have the patience to get it right for now. >_>

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Mm

She has... very scrawny arms. Her breasts also look very odd. Her hair looks a little too big as well.

You should draw your own version of Ayanami's Florina x Lyn thingie. That'd be very awesome...
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XD

I'll try that sometime.
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My bad, haven't been on in a while and didn't check this when I did get on. :\

'Nywho. Ignore Snpie's hair comment, seeing as how that's Ayanami Rei and the hair looks about right.

On all of them, you need to work on the curve of the leg. There's also stuff about the joints I should tell you, but that's not terribly important right now; a lot of people don't get that for a long time. There's people better than me that still make stiff joints. XD

Feet should also be worked on; work at making the toes individual, yet uniform, rather than parts of a single, divided mass(though they are that...:\).

You probably want to work on your hands a bit.

I don't feel up to an extensive critique right now, remind me later. :\
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'Nywho. Ignore Snpie's hair comment, seeing as how that's Ayanami Rei and the hair looks about right.

omg ;_;
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'Nywho.  Ignore Snpie's hair comment, seeing as how that's Ayanami Rei and the hair looks about right.

omg ;_;

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'Nywho.  Ignore Snpie's hair comment, seeing as how that's Ayanami Rei and the hair looks about right.

omg ;_;

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tru dat homes.
kay i'll never say that again.
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Posted it in another topic, but I figured I'd get more guidance here. >>
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WARNING: Lots of criticism/tips(not to sound like I'm arrogant, just saying what could use work, you don't have to do all of it or anything at all. Just try keeping it in mind). Don't bother reading it all first; take one or two paragraphs, and try drawing things using those tips, then when you understand those or have given up on those, move on the next.

IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO READ AHEAD(though you can if you really want to). I think it'll help you to keep from getting swamped, or from getting extremely low self-esteem.






Well, first things first...the back foot is off. Horribly. >__> Point it more to the side, towards you, rather than forward, and have a thinner ankle/shin joint, else he looks fat(which he isn't, HELO).

You're gonna wanna work on the pants; since they're kinda blowing back, they're going to be sorta hugging the muscles on one side. You're also going to want them a bit thicker, since the dude's somewhat obviously going to have thick legs.

The sash should also be flying back; the way it hangs doesn't fit.

Work on the arms; upper arm muscles do not massively expand in such a way, they're a lot more curved...try looking at Goku's arm, it'll probably help you get the general shape. Some arms are that massively bloated though, and those arms do not have those wimply looking forearms. The hands are done pretty well, though.

There should be more of a stretch across the crotch, methinks, though maybe not. At any rate, both legs of the pants are going to be riding up a bit, so make the bottom of them be higher up on the leg.

Shins usually kinda curve ouward, rather than inward, so try fixing the bent knee a bit by pushing it forward a little bit.

The rip in the gi should be less uniform, more ragged looking, and flying backwards. Perhaps with a few scraps flying away.

The hair should also be flying back a bit, and look less gelled, thinner, less mushed together. As well, the mouth needs a bit of work; in this case, it should probably be a bit more geometric than organic, more angular than circular, more like a rectangular opening than an oval opening. The nose and eyes are done well, methinks.

Other than those, you're going to wanna work on the perspective you've got going on him; his body looks tilted this way a bit, but his hands are at the same vertical axis; it makes his left arm(farther from you) look very short. Rather than totally change the angle, try having it more so it twists, changing so it's about straight near the shoulders. Or changing the facial perspective.

Onto the fireball thing...The flames should probably also look more raggedy, and the ball's trajectory is really weird, like it left his hands and then shifted down 6 inches for absolutely no reason.

The woman...

The hair, for one, looks weird; it's flying properly, but you've got it looking weird, like you wanted to preserve the face. That's a no-no. Hair doesn't conveniently fly in a way that allows you to keep on looking at the face. Oftentimes, during these stages, it looks quite horrid. You don't have to make it look real at the cost of making it look horrible, but try to make it look a bit wilder.

Also, it looks gelled, just like the other dude. When it's flying, you want to make it separate into smaller and smaller strands more. Plus, the curves in it should be more natural, kinda following one wind. Yours look kinda forced, like it was bent out of shape. Basically, less like tentacles, more like long grass.

Don't bother with shine, for now. But if you want to, you wanna make it more segmented, and have it disappear once it enters into an area that would be shaded(ie past the bangs). The eyebrows look kinda weird, btw...shouldn't they be kinda more like an s than a sickle? Then again, I don't know what expression you're going for, so I'm probably wrong on that.

Watch the head/body proportions; the catgirl's head looks massive compared to the rest of the body. In fact, it's bigger than Hadouken-dood's head too. That's not necessarily a bad thing, as heads do vary in size in real life, but still, it shouldn't be that big a gap. The upper body seems like it's proportioned well, but the lower body is small compared to it. Length of legs isn't a problem(if you're going for a short lady, she'd have short legs, duh, which, while not necessarily the most attractive of options, is still the best), it's the fact that you've maintained average/tall leg and waist and hip proportions...while miniaturizing it.

With an impact like that, the spine would be bent, not straight like that; the hips wouldn't be that well defined.

The mouth is kinda weird; is she drooling?

Also, watch the feet; she's a woman, not a man. More of a curved, rather than angular, foot. Women are curved; men are angular. Remember that. The size is also weird; women don't necessarily need small feet, but massive feet like men are uncommon.

The toes should probably be kinda splayed and pointed upward.

I'm not going to touch the writing; just look at, I dunno, Pheonix Wright and work from there.
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Hm... Helpful tips for me, too. Thanks. ^_^

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Also, watch the feet; she's a woman, not a man. More of a curved, rather than angular, foot. Women are curved; men are angular. Remember that. The size is also weird; women don't necessarily need small feet, but massive feet like men are uncommon.


Lol, maybe she just has weird feet like me. They're pretty angular and wide.

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I'll admit that I wasn't being entirely serious with the drawing, but yeah, lots of helpful info.
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That's what I thought at first, but when you posted it here I wasn't sure what to think...

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Well, the wording especially I wasn't particularly trying on. Also, I know next to nothing about actual muscle structure. I was mostly copying Ryu's sprite from the game. >_>;; Let's just say I wasn't concerned with making it a masterpiece.
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Actual muscle structure isn't particularly important; Ryu's sprite doesn't actually look like that, tho.
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Actual muscle structure isn't particularly important; Ryu's sprite doesn't actually look like that, tho.

Oh. Guess I just suck then. :kay:
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....>__>
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I hereby deem Luk the drawing expert dude. LOL, Frog.
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:kay:

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WHERE'S MY PIC :Miz:
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*sets about Lukannon with a lawnmower*

WHERE'S MY PIC :Miz:

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No, I mean, the one I don't have yet and didn't make myself.
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No, I mean, the one I don't have yet and didn't make myself.

I knew that.
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*sets about Lukannon with a lawnmower*

WHERE'S MY PIC :Miz:

http://z14.invisionfree.com/Legend_of_the_...dpost&p=9327160

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Lalala...

I did a drawing last night. I might scan it tonight. It was my first attempt at inking.
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Awesome.

I'm guessing the inking came out...eh-ish?
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Awesome.

I'm guessing the inking came out...eh-ish?

I dunno, you tell me. I don't think the inking looks half-bad. Granted, it's not perfect, given I had no experience, but ya. >>

It'd probably be easier just to link to my deviantArt account.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/49209861/
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You have dA. Kewl.

Just post it there from now on, I'll just look at it there.
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Aye aye, cap'n.
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Umm, whipped this up just now. I know it has many flaws, so no need to tell me. It was mostly the joke, and partly preparation for the Lyon x Gheb doujin I plan to make in several years based on Naggy's fanfic. >>

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needs moar fat/11
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needzmoarbon4r/10
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Err, roflbagel. <_<
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Moar Gheb. >_>

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That index finger looks too long and flat. And it kinda looks like his forearm consists of only his wrists; it's too short and the elbow is too far down the arm.

Kinda like this one though-- it's simple. Nice eyes, too.
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Yes, I am fully aware it has flaws. Much like my other Gheb picture, this was primarily a joke, and the main thing I really put any effort into was getting his face to look like Gheb. >>
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