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Tobi = Obito?
Is Tobi 9 (52.9%)
Isn't Tobi 8 (47.1%)
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Tobi = Obito?; Is Tobi from Akastuki Obito?
Topic Started: Nov 14 2006, 03:41 PM (1,681 Views)
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This topic is obviously about Tobi being Obito. I personally think that Obito is Tobi, I hae my reasons but you have to see them at the Mangekyou Sharingan Topic.



For my response to Dumptruck:


He isnt running AT the 3 tail he is dodging it, like I said, so he doesnt get hit by it. And I know he wasn't joking, he was presenting his sense of humor.



It does fall on him, but you can still see his eye after the rock falls, you can see a shaded spot in between the two rocks that are crushing him in the front.
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Yeah, Obito= Tobi is not a good theory. Look:

1. Obito's whole purpose was for Kakashi to learn the lesson he tried to teach Sasuke before he left konoha. He was simply a plot device. He also served as a convenient way for Kakashi to recieve his Sharingan eye. Obito was simply a plot device.

2. Obito's whole character is based around the principles of truth and loyalty. Every line he says, and every action he takes in the KG is based around that. Turning to Akatsuki is completely against those principles.

3. Akatsuki had not formed by the time Obito died. At last, Itachi had not joined it. Also, if the Uchiha clan had not been murdered by this point, then there would be nothing special about a boy with sharingan.

4. There was no foreshadowing in the Gaiden as to him not being dead.

5. Certain characters must remain dead for a story to work. Yondaime is a great example. Without his death, would Naruto or Kakashi, or Jiraiya be the same? No. And if he returned, their personalities would change. Same with Obito, his return would alter Kakashi as radically as his death did. And I don't believe Kisimoto is prepared to make that change, especially in a fan- favorite character like Kakashi.

Now tell me that Obito is Tobi.


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Tobi = Obito? YES!

They are the same. For the reasons already listed.
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So.... I think Tobi is Obito.. Because I'm awesome like that...


I'm on funny's side for this one ;)


I also am thinking that the Leader of the akatsuki can steal doujutsu techniques... But that's just me... Oh, and I think he might be related to Kurenai.
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Just cause of the eyes? Kurenai's are red and his are purple.
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And there in lies the problem, Yondaime is alive. For point 5 of this presentation. There is also another theory that Yondaime is the leader of Akatsuki, which may be the reason why Tobi/ Obito joined Akatsuki. As you should know Yondaime was Obito's Sensei/ Leader of his Squad. And many people believe that Yondaime is the leader of Akatsuki, more than people who believe that Obito is Tobi. And that Akatsuki Part makes no sense what so ever. Ok so Akatsuki wasnt formed when Obito was a kid. SO what? Who cares!? thats desn't have anything to do with the reason Obito is or is not Tobi. nyway my main reason is that... I just have a hunch that Tobi is Obito.
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Nov 14 2006, 07:49 PM
And there in lies the problem, Yondaime is alive. For point 5 of this presentation. There is also another theory that Yondaime is the leader of Akatsuki, which may be the reason why Tobi/ Obito joined Akatsuki. As you should know Yondaime was Obito's Sensei/ Leader of his Squad. And many people believe that Yondaime is the leader of Akatsuki, more than people who believe that Obito is Tobi. And that Akatsuki Part makes no sense what so ever. Ok so Akatsuki wasnt formed when Obito was a kid. SO what? Who cares!? thats desn't have anything to do with the reason Obito is or is not Tobi. nyway my main reason is that... I just have a hunch  that Tobi is Obito.

NO! The fourth is dead and people need to accept that. Read 325- the latest chapters. Take a good look at the leader. Clearly, not Yondaime. And in the official color spread, the leaders hair is ginger. NOT YELLOW.

He's dead.

And somebody give me proof that Obito is Tobi. I'm in the mood for a good debate.
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there isnt any proof, beat :o

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one can hardly be dodging if he is running in the same direction as what he is dodging.

i nvr said he ran at the 3 tailed, as you can see from the cute lil quote above. also you cant know he was joking because you can nvr express that in writing unless you actually write something to the effect of j/k, thats why i said it was a matter of how you see it... and we see it differently, apparently.


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It does fall on him, but you can still see his eye after the rock falls, you can see a shaded spot in between the two rocks that are crushing him in the front.


yes and after that the rest of the rocks fall and crush him.
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I'm tired of reading your posts, so I'm gonna stop arguing from now on. All I can say is taht tehre is proof that Tobi is Obito.
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Tobi is Obito..and Yondaime is the Akatsuki Leader..You must all be wondering why?...because ever watched when Itachi and Kisame try to hold back and naruto and kakashi and sakura from the hq..well they had used a techniqe with two sand jounins and thats what techniqe the yondaime used on somebody and killed him making him the akatsuki leader..now Obito has a hole in his mask exactly where he actually had a eyeball meaning the other is covered because there is no eyeball and who wears a mask other then ANBU and that girl with zabuza (I forgot her/his name),,,that's all I know..and that's all I will say...
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Nov 15 2006, 02:01 PM
I'm tired of reading your posts, so I'm gonna stop arguing from now on. All I can say is taht tehre is proof that Tobi is Obito.

awww you're no fun.
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I might respond eventually, but right now I'm tired. Someday when I actually feel like thinking things over, will be that time.
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lol..no offense but ur..off topic
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nope we're not.
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And there in lies the problem, Yondaime is alive. For point 5 of this presentation. There is also another theory that Yondaime is the leader of Akatsuki, which may be the reason why Tobi/ Obito joined Akatsuki. As you should know Yondaime was Obito's Sensei/ Leader of his Squad. And many people believe that Yondaime is the leader of Akatsuki, more than people who believe that Obito is Tobi. And that Akatsuki Part makes no sense what so ever. Ok so Akatsuki wasnt formed when Obito was a kid. SO what? Who cares!? thats desn't have anything to do with the reason Obito is or is not Tobi. nyway my main reason is that... I just have a hunch that Tobi is Obito.


How could Yondaime be the leader?? He sacrificed his body to the deat god( which looked awsome :D) when he sealed the ninetails in naruto. And The leader has different color hair too.

And to the poll no.
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Nov 15 2006, 03:04 PM
Tobi is Obito..and Yondaime is the Akatsuki Leader..You must all be wondering why?...because ever watched when Itachi and Kisame try to hold back and naruto and kakashi and sakura from the hq..well they had used a techniqe with two sand jounins and thats what  techniqe the yondaime used on somebody and killed him making him the akatsuki leader..now Obito has a hole in his mask exactly where he actually had a eyeball meaning the other is covered because there is no eyeball and who wears a mask other then ANBU and that girl with zabuza (I forgot her/his name),,,that's all I know..and that's all I will say...

I swear to god I was about to say that word to word :shutup:
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Nov 28 2006, 01:30 PM

How could Yondaime be the leader?? He sacrificed his body to the deat god( which looked awsome :D) when he sealed the ninetails in naruto. And The leader has different color hair too.

And to the poll no.

1) It could have been a Kage Bushin, just like what Sandaime did against the 1st and 2nd Hokage when he fought Oorochimaru

2) We havent even seen the leader yet, and don't say "well the manga did"! Because it didn't it showed us his mouth, wow big hint (sarcasm) and even if you did see the Akatsuki leader's hair IT IS IN BLACK AND WHITE! AND IF IT'S WHITE THAT MEANS HIS HAIR IS A BRIGHT COLOR NOT A DARK COLOR!
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Nov 28 2006, 01:35 PM
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Nov 28 2006, 01:30 PM

How could Yondaime be the leader?? He sacrificed his body to the deat god( which looked awsome :D) when he sealed the ninetails in naruto. And The leader has different color hair too.

And to the poll no.

1) It could have been a Kage Bushin, just like what Sandaime did against the 1st and 2nd Hokage when he fought Oorochimaru

2) We havent even seen the leader yet, and don't say "well the manga did"! Because it didn't it showed us his mouth, wow big hint (sarcasm) and even if you did see the Akatsuki leader's hair IT IS IN BLACK AND WHITE! AND IF IT'S WHITE THAT MEANS HIS HAIR IS A BRIGHT COLOR NOT A DARK COLOR!

for #1 omg nice, nvr thought of that
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Nov 14 2006, 02:19 PM
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Yeah, Obito= Tobi is not a good theory. Look:

1. Obito's whole purpose was for Kakashi to learn the lesson he tried to teach Sasuke before he left konoha. He was simply a plot device. He also served as a convenient way for Kakashi to recieve his Sharingan eye. Obito was simply a plot device.

2. Obito's whole character is based around the principles of truth and loyalty. Every line he says, and every action he takes in the KG is based around that. Turning to Akatsuki is completely against those principles.

3. Akatsuki had not formed by the time Obito died. At last, Itachi had not joined it. Also, if the Uchiha clan had not been murdered by this point, then there would be nothing special about a boy with sharingan.

4. There was no foreshadowing in the Gaiden as to him not being dead.

5. Certain characters must remain dead for a story to work. Yondaime is a great example. Without his death, would Naruto or Kakashi, or Jiraiya be the same? No. And if he returned, their personalities would change. Same with Obito, his return would alter Kakashi as radically as his death did. And I don't believe Kisimoto is prepared to make that change, especially in a fan- favorite character like Kakashi.

Now tell me that Obito is Tobi.


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Jinchuuriki, there was a color spread released in the manga showing his hair being ginger color. Also of note: Hidan's scythe is red, Tobi's mask is orange, and the remaining unrevealed member has blue hair.

And the Akatsuki leader has been shown from several angles, and we've seen all of his body, he's just always clouded in shadow.
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So that mean, beat, that his body type and shape is exactly the same as the Arashi's. And yes, I have seen the Image of them all.
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I say it's possible for Tobi to be Obito, but I'm still debating with myself whether or not to agree that they are the same. But it gets you thinking when Tobi wears that mask with the one eyes hole for his right eye.
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i nulled it because well i debate with myself as Uchida said. i just can't seem to go for yes or go for no only time will tell lol
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They're not bringing Yondaime back, especially as a villain. Here's my "Why the leader isn't Yondaime" rant, I recommend you save it to show others.

-What reason would he have to seal a fox into his own son, then chase him down fifteen years later?

-Here's a pic of the Akatsuki leader's face, well the lower half.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3...leadermouth.jpg

And here is THE OFFICIAL (Meaning straight from Kishimoto) MANGA SPREAD OF AKATSUKI.

http://manga.mangavolume.com/manga/Naruto/...aruto317_02.jpg
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Notice, GINGER HAIR.

(However, I do think he's Naruto's father since who the hell would have the time to find a random baby and ask its mother if he can seal an evil monster inside of it, then run back to the village forest and start owning a huge fox with a baby in his arms? My guess is that Naruto and his mother were around when the fight was going on, Naruto's mom was killed and Yondaime scooped up Naruto and sacrified himself for the village. End of story.)

Just let him die as the hero he is. Kishimoto has that kind of respect for a character like that, I'm sure.

Obito COULD be Tobi.

-Tobi is goofy and careless, which is very similar to Obito.
-Tobi is basically useless in a fight. Also like Obito (lol)
-Orange Mask = Orange Goggles?
-Fanbooks are careful to say that "Obito's right side was crushed completely" but never death. Hmm...this is odd.
-If he did not die, then Zetsu is most likely the one who saved him, being as Grass village is near the Stone border and Zetsu refers to Tobi as a "good boy", which may imply that he had raised Obito.

But then again, Kishimoto knew we would make these connections and might just be f'ing with us all.
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that is a good point there sky the last one is the most believable lol
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Yeah, I mean he's cruel enough to make us wait through 85 Filler episodes just to see Sasuke again, not counting the cameo in the Sea Country arc, so it seems like he'd be loving this right now.
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Meh, it dosen't matter to me, well just have to wait and see who the mystery people are. Even though I WANT the AL to be Yondaime, he could be or he could not be. Samething with Tobi :D
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Well my opinion is that Tobi is Obitio. Although there has been almost no proof, its almost implied, in my opinion, that they are the same person. Of course this is just my speculation.
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