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Call me crazy, but......; SPOILERS! Not too much, though.
Topic Started: Jun 16 2006, 10:37 PM (1,037 Views)
+Keimatsu
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I (and Hermit of Hell) think Naruto is the son of the Yondaime. Think about it:
-Naruto's parents are dead. Now I don't know about his mom, but his dad's death is because he died defeating the Kyuubi!
-In episode 2 of the dub, Sandaime said to Iruka that "The Fourth Hokage wanted Naruto to be respected as a hero". Why would Yondaime want Naruto to be respected as a hero? BECAUSE HE'S HIS SON!
-They both have blond hair
-They both can summon Gama Bunta
-Jiraiya once said to Naruto, "The Yondaime was once my apprentice. You remind me of him.", and when he was gonna throw Naruto off that cliff (in chapter 95) to see if he could summon a big frog, he thought to himself, "Forgive me, Yondaime."!
-Why'd you think Yondaime chose Naruto to have the Kyuubi anyway, huh? I mean, it's not like he could just pick a random kid out of the blue that fast. He'd go like "Hmmmm......who to pick, who to pick, who to pick, who to pick.....OH! My newborn son!".
And don't be saying "But then why didn't he pick Konohamaru?", because Konohamaru wasn't born yet at the time.
The only thing that goes against my logic (that I can think of) is the fact that know one is telling anyone, "Hey, don't disrespect the grandson of Lord Hokage (when Sandaime was alive)!", and no one has told Naruto that he's the son of the Yondaime.
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I'm against this theory that you two and so many others like :P. There are many logical answers to these (Naruto logic and real world logic :P)

- Ok, that first one could be true, but that's pretty much all that could possible convince me at all.
-Yondaime wants him to be a thought of as a hero because he's the one that saved the village through containing the Kyuubi, which, if not contained, could destroy the village. If Naruto wasn't born then, it might never have worked.
- Lots of people have blond hair.
- He can summon Gama Bunta because the Kyuubi's chakra gives him extraordinary strength. And also, Jiraiya can summon Gama Bunta... does this mean Naruto is Jiraiya's son? :P
Jiraira could have said it because that's he knew this isn't something Yondaime would want to do to anyone.
- Maybe Naruto was the only newborn at the time. Konohagukare doesn't seem to be a 100,000 person population.

I bet I sounded bitchy to a few people in that :P.

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I too don't think Naruto is Yondaime's son.

I think Jounin Elite just explained it all though. :P

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Jun 29 2006, 10:37 PM
Jiraira could have said it because that's he knew this isn't something Yondaime would want to do to anyone.

I think that Yondaime is the father of Naruto, because not only what Keimatsu said, but i go to wikipedia to get info on Naruto(which is EXTREMLEY reliable by the way, no matter how crazy i sound), and it has personality info on both of them. The only difference between them in what they said really, was that Naruto wanted to become Hokage desperatley. They also both have blue eyes, up beat, and start out only good in strength, then get good at everything else.

To the Quote- I'm sry, but that honestly sounded like you just made that up to counter what Keimatsu said. No offense.
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O.O I don't think so.....Cuz if he was he probly wouldnt have been killed.
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I think that Naruto could have the possibility of being Yondaime's son..with all that was said..it is possible
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W00t! Someone agrees! :P
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It is possible, but I doubt it
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I think he is naruto's father and the leader of Akatsuki, well if you look on wikipedia, the Akatsuki leader has a technique that can change a person into someone else and copy its techniques, (as he did with Itachi and Kisame, which was how he faked his death with sealing the Kyuubi.) Also if you at the picture closely you can see the similar hair features but thats just a theory, not 100% sure.
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1 - No answer because that's just assuming Yondaime was Naruto's father.

2 - That was because the Kyuubi was destroying the Villiage and Naruto saved it by containing the Kyuubi.

3 - A LOT of people have blond hair. Ino has blond hair. Does that mean she's Naruto's sister? Heck, members here have blond hair.

4 - So can Jiraya, look at the fight between Orochimaru and Jiraya.

5 - He said, "Forvive me Yondaime..." because he threw the one who saved the village over a cliff.

If you want to support this thoery properly, try something like this:

1 - Naruto and the Yondaime both have the same bloodtype, the same hair color, the same eye color, similar facial structures, and similar personalities.

2 - Naruto and the Yondaime are the only people with the ability to use the Rasengan.

3 - The Yondaime wouldn't have sealed the Kyuubi into the first kid he saw, he used his own son.

4 - Jiraya hinted that Naruto was the son of Yondaime by saying that he "resembles him in a funny way".

I also believe that the Yondaime is the Akatsuki leader:

1 - They both have blond hair in the same style, and are the same height.

2 - He is after Naruto but does not want to kill him, thus must have some sort of connection to him.

3 - Neither have EVER been given a name and so could very well be the same person.

4 - Somewhere it was stated that THREE of the Akatsuki members were from Konoha. Itachi, Orochimaru, and one of the last two members. Yondaime was from Konoha, and the other member isn't wearing a Forhead Protector.
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No i dont think so if this was the case Naruto would have gotten great respect of the Village in the beginning, he wouldt be so hated but seen as the son of the 4th Hokage who is cursed with the demon fox seel.
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Jun 29 2006, 12:37 PM
I'm against this theory that you two and so many others like :P. There are many logical answers to these (Naruto logic and real world logic :P)

- Ok, that first one could be true, but that's pretty much all that could possible convince me at all.
-Yondaime wants him to be a thought of as a hero because he's the one that saved the village through containing the Kyuubi, which, if not contained, could destroy the village. If Naruto wasn't born then, it might never have worked.
- Lots of people have blond hair.
- He can summon Gama Bunta because the Kyuubi's chakra gives him extraordinary strength. And also, Jiraiya can summon Gama Bunta... does this mean Naruto is Jiraiya's son? :P
Jiraira could have said it because that's he knew this isn't something Yondaime would want to do to anyone.
- Maybe Naruto was the only newborn at the time. Konohagukare doesn't seem to be a 100,000 person population.

I bet I sounded bitchy to a few people in that :P.

-JE-

ya but did yoiu notice that in the anime ONLY NARUTO AND YONDAIME had blonde exept for Ino but weve seen her father during the Sand and Sound joint attack on Konohakure and about Gama Bunta Yondaime could to and Gama Bunta did say after Naruto fell off of him when they tested him and that Naruto could be his master if he stayed on him until sundown... anyway Gama Bunta said "HE REMINDS ME OF "HIM" to Jiraiya we only know 3 people who can Summon him. Kakashi says that hes like Yondaime also. So i think some of your arguments could be right but i think that he is Yondaime's son. Sorry if i sound like a dick (i know i do :P)
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All of these are very reasonable, and all will most likely be inolved in plot twists too. ^-^
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There's another blonde that has the same hair as naruto but half of his face has burn scars. :P I think he's one of the guys who fight the guys who get Sasuke but lost. Either Jounin or Chuunin. Also, Tsunade's Dead brother was blonde; the kid who resembled Naruto in every way except for the Pikachu cheek things and the eyes.

If someone looks like someone it doesn't mean that they are father and son. You need proof. All you people have been proving is that naruto and Yondaime are alike.
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There's another blonde that has the same hair as naruto but half of his face has burn scars. :P I think he's one of the guys who fight the guys who get Sasuke but lost. Either Jounin or Chuunin. Also, Tsunade's Dead brother was blonde; the kid who resembled Naruto in every way except for the Pikachu cheek things and the eyes.

If someone looks like someone it doesn't mean that they are father and son. You need proof. All you people have been proving is that naruto and Yondaime are alike.

ya but we know who Tsunades' Brothers story and he has dirty Blonde hair and Naruto has the same bright color as Yondaime anyway Tsunades Brother dies and we knew his father the First Hokage. And we are talking about how they share traits and a little thing called GENES he got. The only question that i can think of right now is who was Naruto's Mother i think if we find that out it will tell us all the things we need to know.
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So that would also mean say... Neji and Lee are all related because they have the exact same shade of hair color? Nu-uh.

Also, look at Gaara, Temari, and Kankuro. Gaara's hair is reddish brown, while Temari and Kankuro are both blonde. Genes don't always do it :P.

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Ok fine, ignore the hair thing. But other than that...
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like my butt Jounin Elite :P :D jk but sometimes it is about genes so in your face ooooooooo... but seriously they all dont have that shape of hair i mean Naruto and Yondaimes hair are EXACTLY THE SAME exept for the sideburns and whiskers which are a part of the kyuubi seal also everyone says that he reminds everyone of Yondaime BUT LOOK AT THE FACTS HE IS YONDAIME OTHERWISE HES A REINCARNATION!!!! THEY ARE RELATED
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i think all of the same things and all of it makes sense so yeah :orochimaru:
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To Chuunin Elite: In manga/anime, it DOES sometimes matter if you look the same :P.

To SMoS: There is no proof that the Akatsuki leader has blonde hair. Unless it's blond on the 317 chapter cover, I don't remember.
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So much text, im not gonna read all of it.

But ya, I think that either
A. Yondaime and Naruto are related some way, not just by father and son, but maybe uncle?

B. Naruto is the reincarnation of Naruto. Just hink about it, not only did he sacrifice his soul, but in doing so he saved thousands of people, including neihboring villages. Maybe the gods deemed him worthy enough to be reborn?
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Yeah Ichigo i said that already thats what you get for not reading the text
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Using what everyone said, I believe that Naruto is the Fourth's son, and the reason nobody knows is because the Third was the only one who did, and for some reason, he didn't reveal it. I think Jiraiya might also know. And, The Fourth is probably in Akatsuki, which supports the reason for Obito being that one guy. And seriously, the Obito thing is obvious, so it makes even more sense that the leader is Yondaime. So, yeah.
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I have proof that the fourth is the akatsuki leader, ive pictures from the manga aswell but ive not found them yet. il get back to that..

Ive never thought about it that way but it could be true that the fourths son is naruto. but this is anime, everything could happend :P
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So that would also mean say... Neji and Lee are all related because they have the exact same shade of hair color? Nu-uh.

Also, look at Gaara, Temari, and Kankuro. Gaara's hair is reddish brown, while Temari and Kankuro are both blonde. Genes don't always do it :P.

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I hate to quote an old quote, but Kankuro has a darkish brown mixed with some red in it. So it's a chestnut color XD Anyway...

I do believe Naruto is the son of Yondaime. Same blood type, hair color, eye color (and yes, it COULD BE A DOMINATE GENE XO), personality (cept Yondaime was 'smarter' stated by Jiraiya), facial expressions (everyone who is related to someone has a slight resemblance to facial expressions, Naruto and Yondaime having almost the exact same facial expressions 24/7 show that they possibly ARE related, most likely father/son), Yondaime wouldn't just pick ANY random child born, he would pick his own child and not let a parent of the child he chose suffer, since it is the hokage's job to defend his village, even the most unimportant person, Itachi stated that Naruto was to be the fourth's 'legacy' and even the quote of Jiraiya saying "Forgive me fourth" as he pushed off Naruto from the cliff could be a clue. I know you might go "But it's only because the Fourth said for them to honor him as a hero!~!!1" But still you never know. I'm not sure how else to state it, but I believe that Naruto REALLY IS Yondaime's son.

(Also, what does the whole Obito issue have to do with Yondaime being Leader-sama of the Akatsuki? o.O I would think that if Yondaime was the leader, he wouldn't have let him, Kakashi, and Rin be alone since wouldn't he want the Sharigan for the Akatsuki?)

(TDR, you have pictures of Leader-sama? I kinda doubt it since Leader-sama has only been shown, like BARELY in the manga. Only his chin and hair have been shown. If you do have pictures of him, I would kinda think of them as really well drawn fanarts. Also, I just realized, why would Yondaime be Leader-sama, when Leader-sama has red eyes? And if I remember correctly I thought his hair was a brown color?)
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As I said a while ago Naruto and Yondaime are related in some way.. sorry but anyone who doesnt think they are some what related are people who are Naruto Retarded
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Naruto is the son of the Fourth and no one can convince me otherwise i alot of reasons most of them have already been posted and the other ones i can't rememebr right now MEH.
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I completely agree man, but I'm just trying to convince other people that Yondaime and Naruto are related in some way.
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