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Board of Education Meeting; Monday November 6, 2006
Topic Started: Nov 2 2006, 10:34 AM (2,669 Views)
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So.....to re-cap what Liepa said about surrounding districts....
They're up but they're really down....or is it they're down but they're really up? :blink: :blink: :blink:



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Zeke
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I guess it depends on what the definition of "is" is.
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f11
Nov 6 2006, 08:47 PM
Mega...way to harp on steve king!.....a quick google and you'll see the facts support what he was impyling.

From what I hear at least Steve saw the error he made even if his constituents can't. If you had so much evidence you should have provided it to him. And my question still remains --- if there was an impropriety, then why did he vote yes to accept the audit? I guess that is the hard question.
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I liked the quote the audience speaker said about measuring twice and cutting once, how appropos it would have been for LPS to have used that same thought process. Too bad LPS didn't even measure ONCE yet cut seven times.
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EAST DETROIT SCHOOLS' ACCOUNTANTS FAILED TO REPORT EMBEZZLEMENT
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DETROIT, Mich. — A Grand Rapids-based accounting firm has
uncovered prior misconduct by the auditing firm employed by East
Detroit Public Schools, giving investigators a clue into the
embezzlement scheme that plagued the district in the mid 1990s.

The report says that the district's former auditors did not
report or refused to report mismanagement and misallocation of
district funds when auditing the district. "Plante & Moran, LLP
is responsible for allowing the financial losses suffered by the
East Detroit Public Schools to continue due to withholding
pertinent information from the Board of Education and the public
stakeholders,"
says the report.

Several active and former board members are awaiting trial due to
their participation in the scheme to embezzle district money.
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SOURCES:
Detroit Free Press, "East Detroit schools audit found trouble,"
Sept. 9, 2003
http://www.freep.com/news/education/east9_20030909.htm



Regardless, the question was certainly a valid one in my opinion after reading this article.
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mega millions
Nov 6 2006, 11:01 PM
f11
Nov 6 2006, 08:47 PM
Mega...way to harp on steve king!.....a quick google and you'll see the facts support what he was impyling.

From what I hear at least Steve saw the error he made even if his constituents can't. If you had so much evidence you should have provided it to him. And my question still remains --- if there was an impropriety, then why did he vote yes to accept the audit? I guess that is the hard question.

I guess there lies the difference between him and the rest of the clowns...he will at least admit when he's wrong.
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Zeke
Nov 6 2006, 11:01 PM
I guess it depends on what the definition of "is" is.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll have another Cigar.... ;)
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mega millions
Nov 6 2006, 11:01 PM
if there was an impropriety, then why did he (KIng) vote yes to accept the audit?  I guess that is the hard question.

The Harder question Mega is how you and the other LIe supporters along with the ENTIRE BOE AND OBSERVER NEWSPAPER, CONTINUE TO WALK AROUND WITH BLINDERS ON, and still cannot see what A MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY SAW in the Disaster known as the Legacy Initiative.

THAT is the hard question.

Guess what sheep... you 've been lead to slaughter. Oops. <_< (Nice knowing EWE :P )
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f11
Nov 6 2006, 11:14 PM
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Nov 6 2006, 11:01 PM
f11
Nov 6 2006, 08:47 PM
Mega...way to harp on steve king!.....a quick google and you'll see the facts support what he was impyling.

From what I hear at least Steve saw the error he made even if his constituents can't. If you had so much evidence you should have provided it to him. And my question still remains --- if there was an impropriety, then why did he vote yes to accept the audit? I guess that is the hard question.

I guess there lies the difference between him and the rest of the clowns...he will at least admit when he's wrong.

That is a matter of opinion and I have no desire to discuss it on this blog. I obviously would be outnumbered right of the gate. Harp on Steve King --- that is an interesting opinion........I don't know why you would have a problem with me voicing my opinion during audience communication. Isn't that what it is for?
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Mega, Opinions are no longer needed. THE FACT IS: ENROLLMENT IS SOOOOO FAR DOWN. OPINIONS are what got us in this mess in the first place. :angry:
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Recalla
Nov 6 2006, 11:28 PM
Mega, Opinions are no longer needed. THE FACT IS: ENROLLMENT IS SOOOOO FAR DOWN. OPINIONS are what got us in this mess in the first place. :angry:

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EAST DETROIT SCHOOLS' ACCOUNTANTS FAILED TO REPORT EMBEZZLEMENT
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DETROIT, Mich. — A Grand Rapids-based accounting firm has
uncovered prior misconduct by the auditing firm employed by East
Detroit Public Schools, giving investigators a clue into the
embezzlement scheme that plagued the district in the mid 1990s.

The report says that the district's former auditors did not
report or refused to report mismanagement and misallocation of
district funds when auditing the district. "Plante & Moran, LLP
is responsible for allowing the financial losses suffered by the
East Detroit Public Schools to continue due to withholding
pertinent information from the Board of Education and the public
stakeholders," says the report.

Several active and former board members are awaiting trial due to
their participation in the scheme to embezzle district money.
_______
SOURCES:
Detroit Free Press, "East Detroit schools audit found trouble,"
Sept. 9, 2003
http://www.freep.com/news/education/east9_20030909.htm


How do you feel about why the question was asked though? Forget about what happened. What do you think of this report mega?
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Jimid
Nov 6 2006, 11:14 PM
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EAST DETROIT SCHOOLS' ACCOUNTANTS FAILED TO REPORT EMBEZZLEMENT
SCHEME
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DETROIT, Mich. — A Grand Rapids-based accounting firm has
uncovered prior misconduct by the auditing firm employed by East
Detroit Public Schools, giving investigators a clue into the
embezzlement scheme that plagued the district in the mid 1990s.

The report says that the district's former auditors did not
report or refused to report mismanagement and misallocation of
district funds when auditing the district. "Plante & Moran, LLP
is responsible for allowing the financial losses suffered by the
East Detroit Public Schools to continue due to withholding
pertinent information from the Board of Education and the public
stakeholders,"
says the report.

Several active and former board members are awaiting trial due to
their participation in the scheme to embezzle district money.
_______
SOURCES:
Detroit Free Press, "East Detroit schools audit found trouble,"
Sept. 9, 2003
http://www.freep.com/news/education/east9_20030909.htm



Regardless, the question was certainly a valid one in my opinion after reading this article.

If you review the tape Jimid you will see that Mr. King was insinuating that the representatives of Plante Moran were the ones that completed the East Detroit Schools Audit (not Eastpointe schools). It appeared from his actual dialog that his problem was with the Partner and the Manager, not just Plante Moran. King had no foundation, no basis and couldn't even state the year it happened. He was basing his fumble on a question he received on someone's cell phone on a break in the board meeting. When all is said and done, your group had one week to get him all the information he would have needed to properly question the auditors. If you paid attention to the Committee of the Whole meeting on October 9th, then you would have known that the audit was being placed on the agenda for the October 16th meeting. If you want the actual dialog from the board meeting, please pm or e-mail me and I will be happy to provide it to you. Maybe if you look at the actual dialog instead of going from memory you will understand where I am coming from. Those auditors are owed an apology for having their professionalism questioned without foundation.
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Nov 6 2006, 11:37 PM
Jimid
Nov 6 2006, 11:14 PM
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EAST DETROIT SCHOOLS' ACCOUNTANTS FAILED TO REPORT EMBEZZLEMENT
SCHEME
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DETROIT, Mich. — A Grand Rapids-based accounting firm has
uncovered prior misconduct by the auditing firm employed by East
Detroit Public Schools, giving investigators a clue into the
embezzlement scheme that plagued the district in the mid 1990s.

The report says that the district's former auditors did not
report or refused to report mismanagement and misallocation of
district funds when auditing the district. "Plante & Moran, LLP
is responsible for allowing the financial losses suffered by the
East Detroit Public Schools to continue due to withholding
pertinent information from the Board of Education and the public
stakeholders,"
says the report.

Several active and former board members are awaiting trial due to
their participation in the scheme to embezzle district money.
_______
SOURCES:
Detroit Free Press, "East Detroit schools audit found trouble,"
Sept. 9, 2003
http://www.freep.com/news/education/east9_20030909.htm



Regardless, the question was certainly a valid one in my opinion after reading this article.

If you review the tape Jimid you will see that Mr. King was insinuating that the representatives of Plante Moran were the ones that completed the East Detroit Schools Audit (not Eastpointe schools). It appeared from his actual dialog that his problem was with the Partner and the Manager, not just Plante Moran. King had no foundation, no basis and couldn't even state the year it happened. He was basing his fumble on a question he received on someone's cell phone on a break in the board meeting. When all is said and done, your group had one week to get him all the information he would have needed to properly question the auditors. If you paid attention to the Committee of the Whole meeting on October 9th, then you would have known that the audit was being placed on the agenda for the October 16th meeting. If you want the actual dialog from the board meeting, please pm or e-mail me and I will be happy to provide it to you. Maybe if you look at the actual dialog instead of going from memory you will understand where I am coming from. Those auditors are owed an apology for having their professionalism questioned without foundation.

Great Mega, LPS is a train wreck in progress, and you want to argue about the color of the conductors hat!
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Nov 6 2006, 11:24 PM
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Nov 6 2006, 11:14 PM
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Nov 6 2006, 11:01 PM
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Nov 6 2006, 08:47 PM
Mega...way to harp on steve king!.....a quick google and you'll see the facts support what he was impyling.

From what I hear at least Steve saw the error he made even if his constituents can't. If you had so much evidence you should have provided it to him. And my question still remains --- if there was an impropriety, then why did he vote yes to accept the audit? I guess that is the hard question.

I guess there lies the difference between him and the rest of the clowns...he will at least admit when he's wrong.

That is a matter of opinion and I have no desire to discuss it on this blog. I obviously would be outnumbered right of the gate. Harp on Steve King --- that is an interesting opinion........I don't know why you would have a problem with me voicing my opinion during audience communication. Isn't that what it is for?

I'm harping on you because he asked a question, he didn't make an accusation. In turn, you make a false accusation. You must have missed the thread he was referring to that was started back in March, then revisited again. FACTS ARE FACTS, something LIe supporters continuously chose to ignore. When will you all realize the LIe is a trainwreck that so many of us predicted. How sad for the entire LPS community, especially for the kids and all of the staff that will have to be reduced next year.

LIe = Financial Disaster

http://z14.invisionfree.com/Hull_Neighbors...topic=1144&st=0
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