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| mom2kids | Nov 2 2006, 09:04 AM Post #1 |
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Wondering if anyone has heard about the new Lunch Detention at Johnson? My child has told me if homework is not in on time, or there is excessive (?) misbehavior, you get to do schoolwork while eating lunch, somewhere near the lunchroom. If you are last in the lunch line (my child told me from observing!) you don't have time to do the work so you are reprimanded again. I assume they miss their one recess time given to work out their stress of the day, but I am not certain. So is it the teachers who cannot handle the students or the students who are having issues due to the dozens of changes they are trying to cope with? Certainly middle school has detention, never heard of it in our elementaries, especially for incomplete homework... Sure, there were 2 or 3 kids kept inside from time to time, but it was not used as a threat to the whole student body, honestly. Yet another 'unexpected' development... My child is buried in homework 3 out of 5 days a week, and is a terrific student, but is now becoming afraid to end up in lunch detention if something is late. So is this happening at Cooper & Riley also?? |
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| ILIkeLI | Nov 2 2006, 09:22 AM Post #2 |
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Again, sounds like middle school tactics. We never had detentions of any kind at our elementary when it was k-6. It is completely wrong to take away their one and only period in the day to unwind. |
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| concerned mom | Nov 2 2006, 10:57 AM Post #3 |
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My child does not have homework at Riley, so I have not heard of anything like this going on at Riley. I know at least one teacher at Johnson that does not hand out homework. I think it is wrong to have such a consequence in place. These kids need the recess to break up the day. Let's have the teachers miss lunch and see how they like it. I am sure they would not be happy with missing THEIR break. When are educators going to get with the program and figure out that kids need that break to get through the day. Recess can prevent further problems for some of these kids. |
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| fyi | Nov 2 2006, 11:07 AM Post #4 |
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This tactic was used at our school last year. Usually in the form of "group punishment." The difference is the kids had two recesses instead of one. "Free time" shouldn't be taken away from the kids......they need a break just like adults do. I think it makes the problem worse.....sometimes a portion of the lunch time is taken away also. The kids barely have time to eat.....why would that be used as a form of punishment? |
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| concerned mom | Nov 2 2006, 11:20 AM Post #5 |
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I find it disturbing that not all kids have homework, but the ones that do are punished for not turning it in. I am not a big supporter of nightly homework. I believe these kids work hard enough in class. I find that most homework is just busy work and redundant. Stimulate my child's mind with an interesting project and I am all for it. Let me know if there are areas where my child is lagging behind and I will work on those with my child. But the 45 minutes plus of homework on a nightly basis for K-4 is ridiculous. |
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| mom2kids | Nov 2 2006, 02:46 PM Post #6 |
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I am all for some homework but hours on end is ridiculous. So far 3 very LONG assignments had to be colored with crayons (graded on creativity too) and it took literally hours to finish, even with our help. Do they want them to be little children, or middle schoolers? It varies day to day, it seems. I can think of many other ways to be creative, not just coloring. Poor use of family and homework time... And I agree, the kids NEED recess to unwind. |
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| 49chevy | Nov 2 2006, 02:48 PM Post #7 |
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The amount given is ridiculous. If a kid has after school activities, don't plan on them being in bed until at least 10....if not later.... <_< |
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| cat | Nov 2 2006, 03:38 PM Post #8 |
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At Tyler they started what was called a planning room. For those that misbehaved they would spend their second recess there thinking about their behavior, at times writing or reading . Usually it was the same kids there daily, a teacher would be there with them. It never made sense to me.. |
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| Recalla | Nov 2 2006, 04:19 PM Post #9 |
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Kids get detention for incomplete homework?? Imagine how much detention you'd get if your Student Count numbers weren't turned in on time. LPS??? Why the extention? This is truly sad, because the detention the district will get for failing to get the numbers in on time will amount to a decrease of State funding!!! :angry: I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers...I will not be late with my student count numbers... |
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| ILIkeLI | Nov 2 2006, 04:31 PM Post #10 |
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| ForMySons | Nov 2 2006, 07:47 PM Post #11 |
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I hope parents whose kids are making their concerns known with the teachers and principals. I think the detention idea is absolutely disgusting. In some of the rooms at Johnson, if the homework is not in the first 10 minutes of the day, it is is considered late! |
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| cmic | Nov 2 2006, 08:29 PM Post #12 |
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Don't ask for higher test scores and more outcomes if you will not support the teachers by having the kids complete homework on a nightly basis. Not only does it build good work and study habits but it also reinforces what might have been a struggle during the day. It gives parents a chance to partner in the educational process and help their kids be successful. My students get 15 minutes of homework a night. If they don't do it, they can try to finish it during the morning when there is time or they can finish it after lunch and then play. When I don't get my work done, I come in early, I stay up late or YES I miss my lunch and my break and I get it done. I have also stayed in at lunch to do it with the kids. It takes them 5 minutes or so and then they go outside and the next time they turn it in on time and value the educational process and see it as important, especially when the parents support their teachers and the process as well. I am obviously the strict nun, but I think it is important and I can tell the difference in the kids that their parents support our procedures and enforce homework and those that do not. VERY obvious. As a parent, I don't like homework, but I know it is for the betterment of my child and I want them to be successful. Just my 2 cents. |
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| Administrator | Nov 2 2006, 08:35 PM Post #13 |
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I agree. |
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| 49chevy | Nov 2 2006, 09:26 PM Post #14 |
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But, I still think there is such a thing as too much homework. When you take several classes and each gives 30-60 minutes of homework, that's a bit much. |
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| cmic | Nov 2 2006, 09:51 PM Post #15 |
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Yes there is but this thread has become more about not expecting children to accept the consequences of their actions. Children are learning daily about what they can and cannot get away with and what is and isn't important. As parents we need to teach our children how to be responsible and equip them to be able to accept the consequences of their actions. For example: If you don't do your homework you don't go outside at lunch. If you fight all of their battles and you don't show your support for their teachers then you are teaching them that mommy and daddy will fight all their battles for them and they don't need to be responsible for their actions AND that what the teacher says doesn't matter. Children become strong and confident young adults when they can solve their own problems. For some children, they might prefer to stay in at lunch and do their homework than to do it at home. It is good for them to accept responsibility for their actions, take the consequences and learn from them. I am not condoning hours of homework a night and I know firsthand that Livonia schools gives out incredible amounts of homework but I do think it is important to teach our kids how to solve their own problems. |
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