| Board of Education Meeting; Monday, October 30, 2006 | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 30 2006, 01:59 PM (2,789 Views) | |
| NFarquharson | Oct 31 2006, 01:29 PM Post #46 |
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What are they going to do to assess the resaons for the losses? |
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| f11 | Oct 31 2006, 01:33 PM Post #47 |
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so are u confirming 160 is close to the #? |
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| mega millions | Oct 31 2006, 01:38 PM Post #48 |
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I don't work for the school district so I can't confirm anything for you. The blended number is smaller, but has the effect of a larger number. I really don't understand why you would want someone fired for having an estimation off. If the estimation is within 1.5 -2% - I think that is pretty damn good. LPS has been within 1% many many times. To be off a little more this year is to be expected. |
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| f11 | Oct 31 2006, 01:48 PM Post #49 |
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If the estimation was for 160 and 400 ends up being the number, the estimation is off by 250%. While its easy to say that 160-400 students falls within a small percentage range of our total students, it sure makes a lot of difference when multiplied by the foundation allowance. The only reason I was asking if you could confirm the number, was that that you made it sound like you were at the meeting and were somehow "in the loop". |
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| bmom | Oct 31 2006, 01:55 PM Post #50 |
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I don't believe I said all 453 was due to the LI. It comes down to the bottom line. It sure sounds like LPS did not plan very well for whatever reason the count dropped. This district is out of a ton of money however you want to look at it. The LI is definitely to blame for some of it. If there is some silver lining in all this, maybe you should enlighten us. |
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| 2tots | Oct 31 2006, 02:06 PM Post #51 |
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Actually, there is more to it than just an estimation. This administration was told many, many times that if they went forward with the LI people would be pulling their children. In all their arrogance, they refused to listen and budgeted for a loss of far less students. Liepa was asked, point blank, at one point "What will happen if more than 160 children leave the district. Is there a backup plan?" Liepa's response was "That won't happen." Well, it DID happen. Absolutely he deserves to be fired. |
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| Mrs.M | Oct 31 2006, 02:12 PM Post #52 |
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maybe he meant the "backup plan" won't happen or there won't be a "backup plan" |
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| Recalla | Oct 31 2006, 02:17 PM Post #53 |
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To say that student loss as a result of the LIe is minimal and not a significant factor in declining enrollment this year, is like saying the loss of men and women killed in Iraq due to NON COMBAT situations, is minimal and not a significant factor in the American death toll.
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| 2tots | Oct 31 2006, 02:37 PM Post #54 |
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But I'm saying you can't look at the kindergarten figure alone and start with a loss of 400, because while there may be 400 fewer kindergarteners than graduating seniors, you're also ADDING all of those children who went to kindergarten elsewhere and are now starting first grade. That is probably a significant number. So to compare the class of '06 with the incoming kindergarteners only gives you part of the picture. |
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| ILIkeLI | Oct 31 2006, 03:12 PM Post #55 |
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Mega...you are putting a huge spin on the numbers. Just FACE THE TRUTH. Many families left due to the LI. Many didn't even want to begin kindergarten in LPS. The spin that the admin. continues to put on info. is damaging the district. At some point, they and their group of supporters are going to have to admit that the LI drove money out of the district. If that fact isn't acknowledged, they are going to suffer even more next year when many parents of 4th graders plan to pull out. You can only make excuses for so long. FOR KIDS SAKE, Stop the spin, accept the loss for what it is and begin to work on ways to bring people back in. Remember, many districts (aging districts) showed increases this year. |
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| ILIkeLI | Oct 31 2006, 03:21 PM Post #56 |
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In any event, a loss of 2.5% is huge. I would challenge you to find evidence of another district in Michigan (other than Detroit due to the strike) that suffered such a huge loss. I am going to venture to say that LPS may have set the record on loss this year. We have all read about the gains elsewhere. There is something drastically wrong in the administration. |
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| cmic | Oct 31 2006, 04:29 PM Post #57 |
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Listen! You are just propogating the LPS bull crap. I am sick of Union representatives coming on here and putting their spin on the situation when we have over 200 people that posted on this site that left DUE to the LI. What will your response be when we read off the names and the numbers? Then is it Seniors to Kindergarteners? My kdg. isn't here because of this, does she count? So are many of my friends kids. We are gone and the part of it is due to the LI. Stop being a smoke screen for them. |
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| cmic | Oct 31 2006, 04:36 PM Post #58 |
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As a side note, I am really unhappy that St. Mike's has to give any money for my kids to LPS. It feels like you are trying to rub it in, but I am just so glad to be out that I guess it doesn't really matter that some of the money goes to LPS. The blended figure that I "missed" the opportunity to find out more about, that is. |
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| ILIkeLI | Oct 31 2006, 04:43 PM Post #59 |
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The "blended count" is as follows: The Sept. 27 student count comprises 75 percent of the "blended count" on which the state bases per-pupil funding. The final figure combines the number of students in class on the fourth Wednesday of September with an enrollment count taken the previous February, which makes up the other 25 percent. So, mega, the "blended count" will serve to partially soften the blow a little this year but could prove to be especailly devastating next year, don't you think? Blending sort of muddies the true picture of this years loss. |
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| NFarquharson | Oct 31 2006, 04:48 PM Post #60 |
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If we actually lost over 400 students, then there is no way that the blended count is going to be only 162 less than last year or even close to that. It is simple math. If 400 actually left, then the "blended count" will be 300 less than last year. |
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