| Where are the Supporters?; The Silence is Deafening... | |
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| cmic | Oct 29 2006, 11:17 AM Post #121 |
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Just curious, Is your new art teacher Marci Baker? She is the one we LOST due to the LI. |
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| loyaltolivonia | Oct 29 2006, 11:46 AM Post #122 |
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So I guess what is happening here is that SOME of the children are reaping the benefits of the LI, while others are suffering for it. I wonder how Amom would feel if her daughter got stuck with my 3rd graders gym teacher who instructs way too much (and socializes with any teacher that happens to walk by) and then yells at my son because his shoe came off while playing kickball :angry: Was told he will be benched if it happens again? This is a child that gets all 4's in citizenship and is quiet and cooperative. It all just depends on whether you child get's those teachers that go above and beyond the call of duty or if they get stuck with the one's that don't seem to care. As for not wanting to hear it, rosedale? Oh I'm hearing it from both sides, loud and clear. Please don't think we are all as close-minded as you seem to think
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| Pete | Oct 29 2006, 11:52 AM Post #123 |
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Your points are irrelevant. Put things in context. Most children would be happier if we stayed with the K-6, 7-8, 9-12 configuration. Most parents are unhappy with the LI because they know what we had was better than what we have now. We would have a lot happier kids and parents if we didn't have the LI because it isn't the only plan available to us. But the real absurdity....contrary to what you might have read in the observer, the factual costs of the LI will prove the plan couldn't even fullfill the main purpose of the unnecessary plan - to save money. Sorry, your points are not in context. We can be happier. |
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| Amom | Oct 29 2006, 12:36 PM Post #124 |
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Why are my points irrelevant? This post asked where the supporters are. You asked what I'm happy with. Then the post stated that we couldn't just say we've made new friends and things like that - you wanted actual things that changed that we're happy with. I stated them and then I'm told it's irrelevant. |
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| ILIkeLI | Oct 29 2006, 12:53 PM Post #125 |
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The point is that all of the things that you mentioned you are happy with COULD have been achieved or were actually being achieved with the k-6 configuration. Changes to the curriculum could have taken place under that grade configuration. We all know now that the LI WASN"T needed for ANY reason other than maybe Randy's ego. I don't think that people are choosing to ignore or "not hear" what you are saying, I just think that most people believe that all of the chaos and disruption that the LI has brought is not worth the end result. Singing songs in spanish isn't a real plus or benefit to most. It is fun at best, but really adds no academic value. And that is what I think parents are searching for, the academic improvements post-LI. Particularly since LPS seems to be academically declining. It seems nothing has changed with LPS in that manner, the curriculum is unevenly taught by a wide range of teachers, some good some bad. It is just not fair to those who have to suffer with the "bad" ones. Maybe you could answer the financial question Amon....all of this was to"save" the district. You remember how we were told that "something has to be done" and how our fund equity was dangerously low and on and on...Well the LI has driven upwards of 300 students out of the district, with more to follow next year. Is singing songs in spanish and the other things you mentioned worth that? Don't you feel deceived by how the admin. portrayed the district's financial situation? I have yet to hear a supporter answer the financial questions. Do you really beleive that the LI accomplished it's main goal, saving money? |
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| JoJo | Oct 29 2006, 01:18 PM Post #126 |
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A friend of mine that was very much a LI supporter, is now not so happy. They have twins in one of the 5/6 schools. They have different Teachers and one twin gets a load of homework while the other twin gets none. Wow, I'm sure that is quite the "Happy Home"! |
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| CKlockner | Oct 29 2006, 01:35 PM Post #127 |
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The biggest complaints I have heard about 5/6 schools. Size, distance, the two houses. Spanish twice a week is the only plus. The lockers which ALL the kids were so excited about have proved to be a short lived plus. They are too small for much to fit in, and since none of them have locks, as my daughter has said to me "Whats the point?" |
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| plmask | Oct 29 2006, 03:32 PM Post #128 |
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Dear Amom Give it up, they ask for positive comments, it seems, just so they can rip them apart, it's all in your own viewpoint. If you and your children are happy - great! You're not going to make others happy with your positive view. If you are unhappy, I'm so sorry. I hope that you find a way to make the most of your child's education. I agree that there are many, many unhappy people. I sincerely hope that they stay focused on turning their school into something they can be proud of. Picking each other apart on this web site accomplishes nothing. It only serves to divide us even more. Stay focused on the goal people - excellent schools for our children and our community. |
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| Administrator | Oct 29 2006, 04:19 PM Post #129 |
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People are doing much more than just complaining, and they are accomplishing things. They just may not be doing it through the same old channels that some people would like. Watch this video....... Do you think the district would have put this forum together?? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=61...2823&pr=goog-sl |
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| ILIkeLI | Oct 29 2006, 04:43 PM Post #130 |
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You (and the other supporters) seem to be ignoring one little fact. That would be the manipulative, dishonest and deceptive way that the LI was put together and "sold" to the unwitting BOE and then forced upon the community. Specifically, the lies about the districts finances pre-LI. You're suggesting that people just set that aside and make the best of the situation? |
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| fyi | Oct 29 2006, 05:14 PM Post #131 |
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They already had lockers without locks at our school last year for the upper El. |
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| rosedale | Oct 29 2006, 06:49 PM Post #132 |
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What is irrelevant about someones opinion? The thread asked about supporters input. I'm sorry you don't agree with it, but calling someones opinion irrelevant is just wrong! "Most children would be happier?" Have you polled all kids that go to the schools? I don't think so. This may be true of the people closest to you, but I'm not sure about the district as a whole. |
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| cmic | Oct 29 2006, 06:55 PM Post #133 |
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The district has ruined it's reputation and is an embarrassment to this community. What is going to change to make it better because it certainly isn't this! We are losing money because of the LI. Do you understand this? This upheavel was for NAUGHT! |
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| rosedale | Oct 29 2006, 07:14 PM Post #134 |
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I understand that that is your opinion and that your opinion is relevant. Please express your opinions, but don't call others who have different opinions irrelevant. My point was it is wrong to ask for opinions and then post back that the opposing views and opinions are irrelevant! |
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| cmic | Oct 29 2006, 07:44 PM Post #135 |
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I never said anyone or anything was irrelevant. Did I? If I did I'd be surprised but apologize. |
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