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| JEM | Sep 21 2006, 07:52 PM Post #91 |
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Well, first of all some field trips were paid for out of fund raising money at the schools by children attended. Secondly, there has never been a line item called bagels and muffins at these schools. (I have seen the sheets - nada.) Thirdly, you are working too hard to convince others that fundraisers are a good thing. Most of would agree with you. They prizes are junk. Fourth - have you or your family ever been to the same place more than once? Cider Mill, zoo, museum? Only one time and then never again?? Fifth - many trips are taken by bus - funds pay for these. Sixth - sibs should not go. It is not their trip or a family trip. If a parent chaperones, their attention should be on that child in that grade and the group they are suppose to be supervising. Seventh - if you want a sib to go, take them on your own, oh wait - that might mean your other child would have to attend and that would be repetitive. Eighth - our schools never had a trip a month. Maybe 3 or 4 a year. Ninth - you still sound very angry. Tenth - Who is JAM?? Relax...AK... |
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| JEM | Sep 21 2006, 07:54 PM Post #92 |
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OK - how does one edit... NOT a good thing |
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| Anna Krome | Sep 21 2006, 07:55 PM Post #93 |
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So, sorry. JAM is Joanne Morgan, as she was wont to be known. My mistake. AK |
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| ktmom | Sep 21 2006, 07:55 PM Post #94 |
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I think they took that option away. |
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| Anna Krome | Sep 21 2006, 07:58 PM Post #95 |
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NOPE, I asked "them," whoever "them" is, and they reinstated the "EDIT" button. You can EDIT your entry w/in the first 5 minutes--after that, it is HISTORY. AK |
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| Livonia Voter | Sep 21 2006, 08:24 PM Post #96 |
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Anyone ever offer to let businesses donate pencils and pens with their logo on them as advertising? |
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| Shelly | Sep 21 2006, 09:10 PM Post #97 |
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PTA is a volunteer group that helps support activites for all the children in school. They are not a political group with a hidden agenda but a devoted group of Moms, Dads, Grandparents, Caregivers and Staff that go the extra mile for ALL the children. If you have a question or comment about the PTA budget, please direct it to a member of your executive board. Unsure about what $500 for bagels is?? Ask.. if you choose not to participate in the fundraiser - no problem - if your child is disappointed about not receiving a "gift" - welcome to life and treat it as a life lesson. If you choose not to join PTA, no problem, your child will still receive the field trip reimbursement, assemblies, bookfairs, donut and muffin days and a great school experience. As far as renting instruments, I still have the flute I rented in elementary school - a great investment considering my daughter at Emerson is playing it also! |
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| ILIkeLI | Sep 21 2006, 09:48 PM Post #98 |
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Increased federal funding for welfare and education programs has been a prominent feature of National PTA's lobbying for more than 100 years. The organization characterizes these efforts as a service to all children, but political advocacy is objectionable to many parents, pitting parents and teachers against other politicized groups. National PTA admits that there are more than 200 organizations that compete with its agenda. Like teacher unions, the PTA feels threatened by policies that give parents a choice among schools, such as charter schools, vouchers and tax credits. The group even opposes home schooling - the ultimate in parent involvement in education! Estimates indicate that only 10% of K-12 parents pay dues to the PTA - and the majority of those are unaware of its extensive lobbying activities and the positions it takes that are unfriendly to parents. Nevertheless, National PTA has clout. If its leaders succeed in increasing member dues and expanding the organization's lobbying efforts, PTA could significantly damage parents' interests while increasing taxpayer funds for the public school establishment. But the most recent, and perhaps oddest, indication of the PTA's leftist leaning has been its membership in the "Fair Taxes for All Coalition"-a Who's Who of liberal groups including People for the American Way (PAW), the AFL-CIO, the Sierra Club, the NAACP and the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. The coalition's main goal, as stated by PAW President Ralph Neas, was to oppose President Bush's tax-cut proposal. What is the PTA doing lobbying against tax cuts? According to its literature, it's because Bush's proposal "threatens the nation's fiscal stability," is "far too large" and "fundamentally unfair." All of these activities have earned the PTA some vocal critics on Capitol Hill. "I don't even know why they have a 'P' in their name," said former Rep. William F. Goodling, R-Pa., once a president of a local PTA. "They don't represent parents. They represent whatever the major education groups want-which is the status quo." "The PTA is nothing more than an appendage of the teachers unions," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., a former teacher. "Unfortunately, they've opposed every true reform effort. They end up working against the best interests of children and for the best interests of the system." Others, such as Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., have rushed to the group's defense. "The PTA made a difference on several specific issues," Kennedy said. As an example, he cited the Goals 2000 legislation, where "the PTA worked to defeat [voucher] amendments and also influenced provisions relating to school prayer." Kennedy also applauded the PTA for playing an "important role" in the confirmation of Clinton Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders. Elders-who described herself as the "condom queen" and kept a "condom tree" on her desk-was fired by Clinton after suggesting that masturbation be taught in schools. "I believe that most of my constituents think of the PTA as a relatively benign group who are there to support the local school," Tancredo said. "I don't think they understand what an obstacle to reform the national organization is. Boy, do they have a shock in store for them." |
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| momoffour | Sep 21 2006, 10:25 PM Post #99 |
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I do not know what schools your children go to but I can tell you I wrote more checks for feild trips they did not want to go on . Also I cannot remember the last time we had a bus drive them on any feild trips. My older two yes my younger two no way. In fact they were begging parents to drive or else they would have to cancel the trip. Wish my kids were at the schools that paid for the trips and had buses. |
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| c3hull | Sep 22 2006, 01:33 AM Post #100 |
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How come some schools have busses for field trips and others do not? Who makes the decission to have parents drive or to have bussing provided? At Hull, there was NEVER a bus provided for a field trip. |
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| Shelly | Sep 22 2006, 05:44 AM Post #101 |
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The decision to use a bus is the policy of each individual school's principal. I agree that buses are safer and no worries about who is driving your child but they are expensive - I've not see a bill for less then $120...with a class of 25 that $4.80 each plus the cost of the field trip on top of that. The teachers decide which field trip they would like to take and get approval. Wouldn't it be great if our staff had an avenue such as this to compare field trip ideas, classroom management techniques, etc.?? |
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| Grant1 | Sep 22 2006, 06:48 AM Post #102 |
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Speaking from first hand knowledge....believe it... funds raised by the PTA have gone to pay for muffins and bagels for the school staff. Check your PTA budgets for line item expenditures to be sure of what is being expensed on who/what/where. If you are a member of that schools PTA you have that obligation to be informed |
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| skaterchick | Sep 22 2006, 06:57 AM Post #103 |
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At our school I believe we could use a bus for one field trip and any others the parents drove. My kids have never wanted to not go on a field trip. In fact, I'm sure they'd love more!! : ) Shelly, I agree with everything you say. If you don't want to join the PTA, don't...if you don't want to do a fundraiser, don't. It's not a perfect world there's never a time when everyone will be happy. Personally I'm glad the PTA is there and I thank all the parents and teachers who go the extra mile. |
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| Anna Krome | Sep 22 2006, 07:16 AM Post #104 |
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These are children. Television "sells" them on cereal and toys--that's bad enough--but when our own schools are using class time to pitch children that they can win JUNK, if only they sell, sell, sell--it is wrong. Children are impressionable and easily swayed by sales ptiches. Plus, "assemblies" are "fun" to kids. It is unfair to manipulate kids in this way...and parents, for that matter. Most parents have no idea what their selling efforts and donations are going toward. They just trust that the PTA is "doing good for my school." Many would be upset to find out about the political motivations of their PTA. An adult's motive to raise money for their own club should not be put unto the children. Have a sales pitch after school. Believe me, the audience will not be as captivated. And this has nothing to do w/"just keep your chin up--the world is a tough place." That's a silly thing to say. AK |
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| fyi | Sep 22 2006, 07:23 AM Post #105 |
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My children have never taken a bus for a field trip while they have been in LPS. (except for young 5's). |
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