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School Supplies/Fundraisers; Going Broke
Topic Started: Sep 13 2006, 09:43 AM (7,052 Views)
Grant1
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We have just begun to fight!
concerned mom
Sep 14 2006, 02:03 PM
Am I supposed to assume the teacher will pay for this if I don't supply it?  How do the teachers feel about this?

Many many many teachers buy supplies for thier classrooms for the children. This is nothing new either, the teachers have been helping to supplement the needed materials they do not get, and spending thier own hard earned moneymaking up for something they never should have to. Many others, like ourselves, have supplied some teachers with "off list" materials for thier classrooms if they have asked and we know the need, at other times some teachers have approached the PTA's for additional materials for thier classrooms, and some PTA's do budget for those requests.

Bottom line is, like the cycle of events that got us to where we are with the district, it has been that same cycle that has gotten us to a point of where the supplies, plus some books, and materials are expected to be supplied by the customer.

When have you ever walked into a new car dealership and wanted to purchase "that car right there", but it was "suggested" that you would have to bring in your own wheels so you could drive it off the lot? ( hope I'm not giving any car dealerships any ideas here... there would probably be some customers showing up with a set of wheels just to make sure they could drive thier new baby home... setting a precedent that LPS has already done with thier customers :P )
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Iliveon-Levandownbytheriver
Sep 14 2006, 07:34 AM
Some schools get "free supplies" and others are paying 25 cents a pencil? And its up to each schools budget to decide what goes on there?

I want the principle audited then! That is bull****! Its very hard when you have 3 kids and they all get their own "Suggested" lists of MUST haves!

Oh and last night I got a form asking me to purchase for my daughter a "Algebra to Go" study resouce book. Now I have to buy a book to go along with my duaghters class? ITS $18.95! And thats on top of the 40 bucks for a high school year book, 30 bucks for the middle school, god knows how much for the elementary, 50 bucks for each kids for the photo packet (have to share pictures with family and ex) and all the clothes and supplies!

I had to get a job just to finance everything! And then you hear they make profits...on this crap! There goes my paycheck......sniff sniff....


You can tell Leipa is a CPA......cheap *******!!!!!!

Don't buy the book, we did and never used it.
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plmask
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Sep 14 2006, 02:11 PM
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Book socks or covers for all textbooks


This one bugs me. If the district wants the textbooks protected, they need to give my child a book sock or a cover. :angry:

My kids wrapped the books in cut up paper bags and then drew all over the cover. They loved it and I saved $5 per child.
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cmic
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In my classroom my parents kept asking me what supplies they needed to purchase. I told them that I was reluctant to request any supplies because I had ordered enough glue sticks, pencils, pens, crayons, markers and scissors for all the kids. I did tell them that some kids like to have their own supplies because the ones I have are community supplies and must be given back to me after they are used so that everyone can benefit from them. I did put out a wish list for sanitizing wipes, kleenex and disinfectant and got a lot of them.
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Hullparent
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In 6th grade now it is REQUIRED that each child take either vocal or band. The parents are expected to rent or purchase the equipment (25$ - 55$ per month). I understand that you could choose vocal for no charge but if you have a boy they will be probably the only male presence in choir. Add that to your school supply total.
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Hullparent
Sep 14 2006, 05:39 PM
In 6th grade now it is REQUIRED that each child take either vocal or band. The parents are expected to rent or purchase the equipment (25$ - 55$ per month). I understand that you could choose vocal for no charge but if you have a boy they will be probably the only male presence in choir. Add that to your school supply total.

So really the only music special offered was vocal music? The "other" is a pay-to-play with a pretty expensive price tag.

Interesting....A hidden cost of the LI, passed on to the parents...

Or did we pay-to-play in days past in this district?

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kristin
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f11
Sep 14 2006, 05:51 PM
Hullparent
Sep 14 2006, 05:39 PM
In 6th grade now it is REQUIRED that each child take either vocal or band.  The parents are expected to rent or purchase the equipment (25$ - 55$ per month).  I understand that you could choose vocal for no charge but if you have a boy they will be probably the only male presence in choir.  Add that to your school supply total.

So really the only music special offered was vocal music? The "other" is a pay-to-play with a pretty expensive price tag.

Interesting....A hidden cost of the LI, passed on to the parents...

Or did we pay-to-play in days past in this district?

We never had to pay to play! both my sons were able to play without paying! I would not pay! That was not listed on the sighn up sheet!!!!
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kristin
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Sep 13 2006, 11:08 AM
Grant1
Sep 13 2006, 11:55 AM
A few years back we were informed that there were not enough of the science class study guides for each child, and that they would have to share, at that time I informed all of the parents, principal and staff at the meeting that it was the law that each child was required to be supplied these materials since they were required per the cirriculum.


Apparently, at Riley (5th grade) there are not enough Science books to go around. Found this out the other night. If a child needs to take a book home, they have to check it out if one is available. What's up with that? 7 closed schools and not enough Science books. There might be a logical explanation, but I have yet to hear it. Kinda rubbed me wrong.

The sixth graders at Johnson have to share the science books too!!
About four years ago my son had a history book that was so bad I demanded a new one. After waiting three weeks The teacher told me that they didnt have any more books in stock.
So I went up to the warehouse located at five and Farmington,walked into the warehouse myself and traded the book for a brand new one! The books had been sitting on a shelf in a box!!!! About 100 of them in all!
I will be calling the warehouse tomorrow to see if I can personally pick up the science books that are needed at Johnson!
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professionalmom
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kristin
Sep 14 2006, 07:00 PM
bmom
Sep 13 2006, 11:08 AM
Grant1
Sep 13 2006, 11:55 AM
A few years back we were informed that there were not enough of the science class study guides for each child, and that they would have to share, at that time I informed all of the parents, principal and staff at the meeting that it was the law that each child was required to be supplied these materials since they were required per the cirriculum.


Apparently, at Riley (5th grade) there are not enough Science books to go around. Found this out the other night. If a child needs to take a book home, they have to check it out if one is available. What's up with that? 7 closed schools and not enough Science books. There might be a logical explanation, but I have yet to hear it. Kinda rubbed me wrong.

The sixth graders at Johnson have to share the science books too!!
About four years ago my son had a history book that was so bad I demanded a new one. After waiting three weeks The teacher told me that they didnt have any more books in stock.
So I went up to the warehouse located at five and Farmington,walked into the warehouse myself and traded the book for a brand new one! The books had been sitting on a shelf in a box!!!! About 100 of them in all!
I will be calling the warehouse tomorrow to see if I can personally pick up the science books that are needed at Johnson!

Truly a beacon of innovation. <_<
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loyaltolivonia
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Hullparent
Sep 14 2006, 05:39 PM
In 6th grade now it is REQUIRED that each child take either vocal or band. The parents are expected to rent or purchase the equipment (25$ - 55$ per month). I understand that you could choose vocal for no charge but if you have a boy they will be probably the only male presence in choir. Add that to your school supply total.

Don't forget the "Initial Payment"! Read the fine print folks. The $25-$65 is the monthly fee AFTER the initial payment.

I hear a very loud sucking sound coming from my wallet!
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loyaltolivonia
Sep 14 2006, 07:47 PM
Hullparent
Sep 14 2006, 05:39 PM
In 6th grade now it is REQUIRED that each child take either vocal or band.  The parents are expected to rent or purchase the equipment (25$ - 55$ per month).  I understand that you could choose vocal for no charge but if you have a boy they will be probably the only male presence in choir.  Add that to your school supply total.

Don't forget the "Initial Payment"! Read the fine print folks. The $25-$65 is the monthly fee AFTER the initial payment.

I hear a very loud sucking sound coming from my wallet!

Whats the initial payment?
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f11
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I would just buy an instrument off of ebay. At least you have something when the class is done rather than just renting and having nothing at the end...
You could even probably get your investment back if kept in good shape.

I am just finding it really hard to believe they are charging for these instruments, when this was offered as some "great" program..."yes people, look at all these great specials we are giving your kids"....

If I wanted to pay for music lessons, I would do it on my own.

Trombone

Trumpet

Clarinet

Flute

Baritone
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Iliveon-Levandownbytheriver
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Hey you forgot the Saxaphone!!!
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Alto sax
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