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Open LPS Doors?
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not happy in n/w livonia	Mar 23 2006, 06:30 AM Post #1
Principal Posts: 116 Group: Members Member #80 Joined: November 2, 2005	I am curious, how many would not have a problem if LPS began to officially take in out of district kids? Please include your reasoning with your answer.



NFarquharson	Mar 23 2006, 06:46 AM Post #2
Principal Posts: 4,311 Group: Members Member #103 Joined: November 9, 2005	I might be okay with it if it was very limited and spread out. For example, if we allowed say 10 out of district children at each school, I don't think it would require much if anything in additional resources. If they were coming from a district with a lower foundation grant amount, they would have to pay the difference as tuition. So few children would not take away from the community school feeling but would give us added money. With 10 kids at each of 26 schools at $8200 each, we could bring in an additional 2.1 million, enough to cover more than what is allegedly expected from the LI. Certainly worth consideration.



ktmom	Mar 23 2006, 07:07 AM Post #3
Principal Posts: 520 Group: Members Member #72 Joined: November 2, 2005	I personally no matter how financially strapped the district was would not support this.



Grant1	Mar 23 2006, 07:13 AM Post #4
We have just begun to fight! Posts: 3,167 Group: Members Member #117 Joined: November 14, 2005	Unfortunately, the business of education has every district becoming competitive in competing for the $$$ that head counts add to your budget. It has now become apparent that many other districts are seeing beyond the issues, looking at thier budgets, and opting for this alternative. I am not a big fan of open enrollment, but if it is an option that LPS should explore ( and should have been explored / presented as part of the demongraphics committee options ) to maintain funding then we should take the opotunity to do so. It is also something that can be rescinded if it does not prove itself out.



Derek	Mar 23 2006, 07:29 AM Post #5
Principal Posts: 137 Group: Members Member #269 Joined: January 5, 2006	I am against the idea. I feel that these folks are not paying taxes in the community such as the sinking bonds we approve and so should not be taking advantage of our schools without paying their fair share. Can you shop at COSTCO but not pay the membership fee? It is a shortsighted budget bandaid and also leads to other districts dwindling enrollment and further downward spiral of their district. Imagine if Plymouth Canton had GREAT schools, (not to say they aren't good) and ours were mediocre... Many disappointed witht he legacy initiative would opt for open enrollment there. We are already seeing it with private schools. It's a bad concept for Livonia or any district in my opinion.



Michelebel	Mar 23 2006, 09:15 AM Post #6
Principal Posts: 206 Group: Members Member #163 Joined: November 29, 2005	I agree that it's a bad idea. We need people to move into Livonia, become a part of our community, pay taxes, shop here, AND become a part of the school system. It should be a whole package, not just come for our schools. It just seems very unfair to be able to reap the benefits of a good school system, but not "contribute" to it by buying a home in that city or being a true part of the commnity.



Iliveon-Levandownbytheriver	Mar 23 2006, 10:11 AM Post #7
Principal Posts: 900 Group: Members Member #193 Joined: December 6, 2005	NFarquharson Mar 23 2006, 06:46 AM I might be okay with it if it was very limited and spread out. For example, if we allowed say 10 out of district children at each school, I don't think it would require much if anything in additional resources. If they were coming from a district with a lower foundation grant amount, they would have to pay the difference as tuition. So few children would not take away from the community school feeling but would give us added money. With 10 kids at each of 26 schools at $8200 each, we could bring in an additional 2.1 million, enough to cover more than what is allegedly expected from the LI. Certainly worth consideration. I agree with you. That is a serious amount of money...for it not to be looked into and studied. It is also a small number of children at each school and dont really see how it would be so disruptive. I definatly think it should be looked into. People come to Livonia and shop....they work here....they participate in sports clubs here....go to church here...and so on....and do not actually live in the City of Livonia. Those people are already contributing to this wonderful City.



Hull_CHS	Mar 23 2006, 10:29 AM Post #8
Principal Posts: 36 Group: Members Member #321 Joined: February 27, 2006	Iliveon-Levandownbytheriver Mar 23 2006, 10:11 AM NFarquharson Mar 23 2006, 06:46 AM I might be okay with it if it was very limited and spread out. For example, if we allowed say 10 out of district children at each school, I don't think it would require much if anything in additional resources. If they were coming from a district with a lower foundation grant amount, they would have to pay the difference as tuition. So few children would not take away from the community school feeling but would give us added money. With 10 kids at each of 26 schools at $8200 each, we could bring in an additional 2.1 million, enough to cover more than what is allegedly expected from the LI. Certainly worth consideration. I agree with you. That is a serious amount of money...for it not to be looked into and studied. It is also a small number of children at each school and dont really see how it would be so disruptive. I definatly think it should be looked into. People come to Livonia and shop....they work here....they participate in sports clubs here....go to church here...and so on....and do not actually live in the City of Livonia. Those people are already contributing to this wonderful City. I agree with you both, and could not say it any better.



f11	Mar 23 2006, 02:11 PM Post #9
LPS, transportation for all Posts: 948 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: October 20, 2005	I support opening the district up, on a very limited scale. Another school district doing it... "last week Fowlerville Community Schools Board of Education unanimously voted to open Schools of Choice enrollment for the 2006-2007 school year" from livingstondaily.com



jodygirlh	Mar 23 2006, 02:34 PM Post #10
Principal Posts: 371 Group: Members Member #220 Joined: December 13, 2005	I would not support open enrollment. Based on my limited knowledge of OE, it seems to really benefit athletes more than your average student. Many areas (like Clarenceville) have, for example, students who attend this district from other areas simply because of the athletic opportunities there. If Joe Shmoe can be #1 quarterback at Clarenceville, and #3 at RU, why not go to Clarenceville? Darwinism at its best I guess, but doen't sit well with my socialist tendencies. Besides, I don't like to see Joe Schmoe, beat out John Livonia Doe for 1st string anything if he doesn't live here. Sorry, all this sickness at my house is makin me crazzzzzzzzzzy!!!



Iliveon-Levandownbytheriver	Mar 23 2006, 02:38 PM Post #11
Principal Posts: 900 Group: Members Member #193 Joined: December 6, 2005	I dont see why it would have to a pick and choose type situation. Why not first come first serve.



insupport	Mar 23 2006, 02:57 PM Post #12
Principal Posts: 296 Group: Members Member #323 Joined: February 28, 2006	There are many people in Clarenceville that do not like OE because it is often athletes that take advantage of it and then the children that live in the district often don't make the team. Just one aspect of OE.



Iliveon-Levandownbytheriver	Mar 23 2006, 03:22 PM Post #13
Principal Posts: 900 Group: Members Member #193 Joined: December 6, 2005	I understand your point. There are drawbacks to everyplan....some bigger than others. But if you did open the district by a certain number of children...we might...and I did say might becuase it would definatly have to looked into...be able to keep our schools open and have money for extra programs. Its just a thought.



Administrator	Mar 23 2006, 03:49 PM Post #14
Administrator Posts: 3,069 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: October 5, 2005	EVERYTHING needs to be looked at, no matter what it is. And it needs to be looked at together with our entire community. Is it true that many of us didn't pay as much attention to our schools before the LI? Yes. Is it true that more people are paying attention to our schools now more than possibly any other time in the history of LPS? Yes. It seems like a crime to waste this golden opportunity.



NFarquharson	Mar 23 2006, 06:10 PM Post #15
Principal Posts: 4,311 Group: Members Member #103 Joined: November 9, 2005	A couple of points: You can always open spots in elementary and middle schools but not high schools. I realize that the kids that start in lower grades will be able to continue on into high school, but this would solve the issue of athletes coming into the district puposefully. Also, funding for schools comes from several sources, including a large portion of the sales tax collected in this state. Everyone pays sales tax regardless of where they live.


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