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Hoover announcement
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Rose	Mar 12 2006, 04:38 PM Post #46
Principal Posts: 759 Group: Members Member #171 Joined: November 30, 2005	livonia_parent Mar 12 2006, 04:34 PM insupport Mar 11 2006, 07:49 PM I am curious as to why Hoover would be open next year just because there is a recall? I am beginning to believe that much of this oppositions has to do with school's closing not all the other reasons I keep hearing. You are correct. The uproar has to do only with school closings since all other programs and student services are being saved and improved in some cases. It is nice to see the Board of Education has found a way to not eliminate programs or increase class sizes. Yeah, right! :lol:



NFarquharson	Mar 12 2006, 04:39 PM Post #47
Principal Posts: 4,311 Group: Members Member #103 Joined: November 9, 2005	livonia_parent Mar 12 2006, 04:34 PM insupport Mar 11 2006, 07:49 PM I am curious as to why Hoover would be open next year just because there is a recall? I am beginning to believe that much of this oppositions has to do with school's closing not all the other reasons I keep hearing. You are correct. The uproar has to do only with school closings since all other programs and student services are being saved and improved in some cases. It is nice to see the Board of Education has found a way to not eliminate programs or increase class sizes. Most of the "uproar" has to do with the 5/6 schools, their size and the increased number of transitions. There are many here opposed to the LI whose elementary school will remain open or who have publicly stated that they are sad but will adjust if their elementary school closes (myself included right at a BOE meeting.) The dislike of the new grade configuration and what that creates is what we all have in common.



Administrator	Mar 12 2006, 04:45 PM Post #48
Administrator Posts: 3,069 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: October 5, 2005	Please read the research on this forum. Here is just one source. GRADE SPAN Title: Middle School ConfigurationsII: Questions and Research Link: http://www.chappaqua.k12.ny.us/ccsd/School...ct/configqr.htm "Educators believe that at least 3 years in one setting helps to increase the continuity of program, student affiliation with the school and its staff, and a more personalized learning experience. Conversely, in a 2 year middle school, 50% of the student population is new every year. Students are either transitioning in or out of the school." "Students thrive in a caring school community. Continuity is an important construct in the creation of such an environment." "Schools are places where students know and are known by the adults. This comes with an extended experience." "Multiple and frequent school transitions hamper academic performance and student motivation." "When comparing the academic performance of students who make 2 school transitions before reaching high school to others who had to make but one transition, it was revealed that the GPA of the "two transition" groups were consistently lower." Here is the link to the research page http://s14.invisionfree.com/Hull_Neighbors...p?showtopic=995 . Please, google search "grade span" or "Grade configuration" if you don't trust the links on this site. Look for yourselves



Derek	Mar 12 2006, 09:43 PM Post #49
Principal Posts: 137 Group: Members Member #269 Joined: January 5, 2006	Grant1 Mar 11 2006, 11:51 PM <snip> Part of the overall problem with the LPS administration at this time is they have no desire, no incentive, no ambition to take on the union contracts that allow events like this to occur, or to prevent any further occurrances of situations that are completely under the control of the union contracts. This is what your tax dollars are spending money on, not education, but union arbitrations and exploding pension and benefit packages for the administration. <snip> Once again more union bashing from Grant1... I suppose it's a bad thing that Teachers have a good pension, good healthcare coverage, and job security? Why would we want to treat anyone with respect and honor for the job they do... If one UNION person makes a bad decision take 'em out eh? Take on the Union and their darned security... bust 'em pay em less and save the schools money by hiring some cheap labor... Maybe some illegals from Mexico or ask Grant1 to outsource em and have teacher steach via the net from India... it worked for his company... You are a Piece of work! -Derek



Administrator	Mar 12 2006, 09:49 PM Post #50
Administrator Posts: 3,069 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: October 5, 2005	For me, it is about my kids. Look at this post. It is a reply from one of the researches often quoted in the Demographics Committe References to a poster on this forum.... A response from Craig Howley. He, along with Alspaugh, is one of the leading names in the area of grade span configuration. He was cited by the Committee and Mrs. Alles also used his name when she talked about the body of work dealing with grade span confiuration. When he discussess prominent professional groups, he is speaking to the way in which administraors use the idea of "meeting the developmental needs of a particular narrow age grouping" to segregate them into their own schools. We heard some of this from our own committee, in terms of the "unique needs" of 6th graders. Again, he backs up Professor Alspaugh with discrediting Mrs. Alles notion that the studies on narrow grade span effects are limited to either urban or rural populations and therefore not apllicable to LPS (a suburban pop.). "I get this alot. It's a disturbing story. You've read, you've argued, you've been dismissed (that's what you claim, and I hear this claim too often to be dismissive myself). Parents--I'm one and am a grandparent twice over--have legitimate concerns, which need to be heeded, simply because they are parents. You know that some of us think the tendency to fracture kids into grade-level groupings is ill advised. Here's what I can honestly say about the research literature that concerns you: The school- and district-size studies have almost always dealt with state-level data, so rural, urban, and suburban schools have been included; dismissing them as rural and urban is not proper. The literature on gradespan effects, as noted in the literature itself, is rather skimpy. If reconfiguring schools, however, it's about all there is in the way of defensible empirical study. Prominent professional groups make many vague claims about the developmental needs of children of all ages related to grade configurations, but actual empirical study linking those claims to student achievement doesn't exist. It's essential professional opinion, widespread, but not "scientifically" affirmed. The K-6 study (CT), I think--you can verify this impression--used a large state-wide sample and not just a rural sample." --c. (Craig Howley) Please feel free to contact Craig Howley. He will be more than willing to respond. http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~howleyc/howleyc.htm



maxcoz	Mar 13 2006, 04:24 PM Post #51
Principal Posts: 104 Group: Members Member #128 Joined: November 15, 2005	FYI. I was told that they were told to announce this by the head office to all of the schools. It was meant for the teachers not the students. I have to be honest with you, it must have been done very cautiously because the kids had no idea.



49chevy	Mar 13 2006, 04:27 PM Post #52
Answers questioned Posts: 1,270 Group: Members Member #306 Joined: February 15, 2006	livonia_parent Mar 12 2006, 04:34 PM insupport Mar 11 2006, 07:49 PM I am curious as to why Hoover would be open next year just because there is a recall? I am beginning to believe that much of this oppositions has to do with school's closing not all the other reasons I keep hearing. You are correct. The uproar has to do only with school closings since all other programs and student services are being saved and improved in some cases. It is nice to see the Board of Education has found a way to not eliminate programs or increase class sizes. Talk about an ignorant statement....



f11	Mar 13 2006, 04:34 PM Post #53
LPS, transportation for all Posts: 948 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: October 20, 2005	maxcoz Mar 13 2006, 04:24 PM FYI. I was told that they were told to announce this by the head office to all of the schools. It was meant for the teachers not the students. I have to be honest with you, it must have been done very cautiously because the kids had no idea. the kids did have an idea, cause that is how I found out about it!



maxcoz	Mar 13 2006, 04:35 PM Post #54
Principal Posts: 104 Group: Members Member #128 Joined: November 15, 2005	Don't kill the sessenger!!!



maxcoz	Mar 13 2006, 04:36 PM Post #55
Principal Posts: 104 Group: Members Member #128 Joined: November 15, 2005	maxcoz Mar 13 2006, 04:35 PM Don't kill the sessenger!!! oops I mean messenger!!!



f11	Mar 13 2006, 04:41 PM Post #56
LPS, transportation for all Posts: 948 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: October 20, 2005	maxcoz Mar 13 2006, 04:36 PM maxcoz Mar 13 2006, 04:35 PM Don't kill the sessenger!!! oops I mean messenger!!! Maxcoz, so you are confirming that an announcement was made at Hoover over the PA?



maxcoz	Mar 13 2006, 04:42 PM Post #57
Principal Posts: 104 Group: Members Member #128 Joined: November 15, 2005	Yes the announcement was made.



f11	Mar 13 2006, 04:43 PM Post #58
LPS, transportation for all Posts: 948 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: October 20, 2005	maxcoz Mar 13 2006, 04:42 PM Yes the announcement was made. Thank you. ps. I was not killing the sessenger.



new school mom	Mar 13 2006, 04:51 PM Post #59
Principal Posts: 150 Group: Members Member #294 Joined: January 27, 2006	maxcoz Mar 13 2006, 04:24 PM FYI. I was told that they were told to announce this by the head office to all of the schools. It was meant for the teachers not the students. I have to be honest with you, it must have been done very cautiously because the kids had no idea. I have not heard any other schools announcing this, has anyone else???



maxcoz	Mar 13 2006, 04:56 PM Post #60
Principal Posts: 104 Group: Members Member #128 Joined: November 15, 2005	This is what I was told, I don't know if it is true or not. I know the announcement was made at Hoover and I was told that the central office told them to do so. I dont know if I actually believe that. My kids were oblivious to the announcement but obviously there were some kids who heard it. Maybe people from other schools can find out or maybe call the central office and ask them.


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