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Detroit News Editorial; Praises Board for Legacy Initiative
Topic Started: Mar 9 2006, 12:22 AM (382 Views)
docketpal
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I think there are two important points raised in the recent Detroit News Editorial that need to be highlighted:

1) "The Board is not obligated to follow precedent, or else Livonia students would still attend one-room schools."


2) " However, the deal saves money and is a beacon of innovation in a sea of inaction elsewhere around the state. School officials did exactly what they are elected to do -- lead the community to prepare for an uncertain economic future. They showed political courage and made tough-but-necessary calls."

The News was right on target with these points.
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loyaltolivonia
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Actually, docketpal, I found your #1 quote to be one of the most ridiculous statements in the whole editorial :o (among others!)

Nothing wrong with a one-room school house if you still only had 20 KIDS IN THE DISTRICT, which we don't. That is why I find it a very ridiculous statement :)
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docketpal
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I don't think that's what they mean by the quote. But I respect your right to interpret it that way.
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TigerMom
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I respectfully disagree docketpal. Of your two quotes, "beacon of innovation" troubles me the most. I don't believe there is anything innovative in HOW students are warehoused (mega 5/6 schools feels like warehousing to me)...what makes a school district innovative is the programs offered. Someone has mentioned the I.B. program being offered in some school districts, our gifted education program as examples of innovation in a school district. While I'm not sure our special education classes are innovative I do know of parents that have moved here with their children with special needs specifically because of the programs at Webster and Churchill. The new proposed configuration introduces nothing innovative. The possibility of reintroducing programs that that we once had and are standard offerings in other school districts is not innovative.

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Want2move
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Quote #1: I found this ridiculous as well. To applaud the current BOE for the ability of their predecessors to follow the educational evolution that the whole nation followed is a far stretch. What really burns my rear, is how the BOE President tells us that "we live in a representative democracy", yet also reminds us that they are not obligated to do the very things we elected them to represent us for.

Quote #2: The fact the plan saves money. When? After how many years after start-up costs? It saves only 1%? Look at the cost this savings has reaped thus far. If anything, LPS is trying to play catch-up to other districts by modeling them. The only thing innovative is how they are trying to retrofit the configuration into a system not designed for it. Since so many are upset about does not speak well for how they are going about it. Many districts are doing far more efficient things to save money that this district has failed to do.
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Grant1
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We have just begun to fight!
But the board is required to follow thier code of ethics and the requirements of the MASB, NASB, & Michigan School Code laws

There are several items within those policies that were not followed, and hence, are being questioned by the citizens as to how policies that are written, and individuals that are elected to follow those policies, can proceed with the actions they have chosen without adhering to policies, laws, and also have supporting data that is conclusive, as well as obtaining true stakelholder inputs from the entire community.
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Want2move
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Believe me, I'm always looking for things that the current administration is doing well. I'm tired of this whole mess overshadowing anything good that may be going on.
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fyi
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I totally agree Tigermom! You summed up my feelings exactly. What is innovative about the LI? I know.....they found an innovative way to close buildings and keep all the administrators. I guess it depends what you consider innovative. I personally do not see anything here that could be considered "innovative" for the children. I agree....a return of programs that the children already had in the past? I have already compensated for that and it's not a big selling point for me nor is it innovative.

Innovative: To begin or introduce something new; be creative.

New? I agree. Creative? I think not!
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loyaltolivonia
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docketpal
Mar 9 2006, 08:53 AM
I don't think that's what they mean by the quote. But I respect your right to interpret it that way.

How do YOU know what they mean by that quote? Did you write it? PLEASE, enlighten me, docketpal. Since you seem to have a bead on what was so carelessly written, what is your interpretation?
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Michelebel
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I just think the phrase "beacon of innovation" is quite hilarious!! Not only is it a very silly cliche, it's very untrue.

How can a plan that has so divided a community, started a lawsuit and School Board recall, and requires "therapy" be called a "beacon of innovation".

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49chevy
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loyaltolivonia
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Thanks for making me laugh, 49chevy.......hehehehehehe!
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livoniamom
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Even it is a beacon of innovation and does save some money, it is NOT what the families of LPS want and therefore should not happen.
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Mrs.M
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"a beacon of excellence offering exceptional educational opportunities to all children and serving as a source of pride for our community."

from the "shared vision" I'm a bit tired of the use of "beacon" as well.
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TigerMom
Mar 9 2006, 09:11 AM
I respectfully disagree docketpal. Of your two quotes, "beacon of innovation" troubles me the most. I don't believe there is anything innovative in HOW students are warehoused (mega 5/6 schools feels like warehousing to me)...what makes a school district innovative is the programs offered. Someone has mentioned the I.B. program being offered in some school districts, our gifted education program as examples of innovation in a school district. While I'm not sure our special education classes are innovative I do know of parents that have moved here with their children with special needs specifically because of the programs at Webster and Churchill. The new proposed configuration introduces nothing innovative. The possibility of reintroducing programs that that we once had and are standard offerings in other school districts is not innovative.

I happen to be one of those parents who moved here for the great special education programs that were available. My daughter attended Webster, Riley and now her first year at Churchill. She has to be transfered to Franklin next year because the 2 men in charge of special ed said so. She is among 70 or so students in the ctp program that there is just no more room for the program after 15 plus years!! I am very upset about the fact that she is not treated the same as regular ed students that can continue on if already at a current high school!! :angry:
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