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Board of Education Meeting; March 6, 2006 Your thoughts
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Cindi
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Rose
Mar 7 2006, 02:55 PM
gr1
Mar 7 2006, 12:33 PM
Rose,
Sorry to hear you had such a tough time with your transitions. 
I also transitioned several times, 6 times to be exact.  Except for two of the transitions, I was always the "new kid" and there were no transition activities to help me and I did not move right along with my friends. 
I did not hate school, made friends and did well.

Just as the lady you mention in your post told her personal story, Your story is yours and mine is mine.  Her point was that these transitions are being carefully planned and if her daughters (and mine for that matter) turned out well despite the fact that there was no planning in place to help ease into the transition, then the extra transitions our kids will make next year are more than likely to turn out for the positive because of all the effort being put into to make them as positive as possible.

I've been to three transition activities with my child. At each activity, there was no supersvision, no introductions, and each school stayed to themselves. What is supposed to be accomplished here? Shouldn't there be a represenative from each school making sure things go smooth and interaction is encouraged? I do not see the value in these activities.

Rose:

What school are you from? I didn't think any transition activities have begun yet? I am from Kennedy and the only thing we have done is skating with Hull and it was Hull's school night and they invited Kennedy along. I wouldn't really call it a transition activity, more a friendly neighborhood school gesture.
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Rose
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Cindi
Mar 7 2006, 05:43 PM
Rose
Mar 7 2006, 02:55 PM
gr1
Mar 7 2006, 12:33 PM
Rose,
Sorry to hear you had such a tough time with your transitions. 
I also transitioned several times, 6 times to be exact.  Except for two of the transitions, I was always the "new kid" and there were no transition activities to help me and I did not move right along with my friends. 
I did not hate school, made friends and did well.

Just as the lady you mention in your post told her personal story, Your story is yours and mine is mine.  Her point was that these transitions are being carefully planned and if her daughters (and mine for that matter) turned out well despite the fact that there was no planning in place to help ease into the transition, then the extra transitions our kids will make next year are more than likely to turn out for the positive because of all the effort being put into to make them as positive as possible.

I've been to three transition activities with my child. At each activity, there was no supersvision, no introductions, and each school stayed to themselves. What is supposed to be accomplished here? Shouldn't there be a represenative from each school making sure things go smooth and interaction is encouraged? I do not see the value in these activities.

Rose:

What school are you from? I didn't think any transition activities have begun yet? I am from Kennedy and the only thing we have done is skating with Hull and it was Hull's school night and they invited Kennedy along. I wouldn't really call it a transition activity, more a friendly neighborhood school gesture.

We have had the same, plus a few other activities. They were not specifically called transition activities, but because the two schools were getting together, I assumed they were some type of transtion activity. Call the activities what you want, but they are all for the sake of transitions. If there was no such thing as the LI, these activities would not be going on.
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Cindi
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Rose
Mar 7 2006, 05:52 PM
Cindi
Mar 7 2006, 05:43 PM
Rose
Mar 7 2006, 02:55 PM
gr1
Mar 7 2006, 12:33 PM
Rose,
Sorry to hear you had such a tough time with your transitions. 
I also transitioned several times, 6 times to be exact.  Except for two of the transitions, I was always the "new kid" and there were no transition activities to help me and I did not move right along with my friends. 
I did not hate school, made friends and did well.

Just as the lady you mention in your post told her personal story, Your story is yours and mine is mine.  Her point was that these transitions are being carefully planned and if her daughters (and mine for that matter) turned out well despite the fact that there was no planning in place to help ease into the transition, then the extra transitions our kids will make next year are more than likely to turn out for the positive because of all the effort being put into to make them as positive as possible.

I've been to three transition activities with my child. At each activity, there was no supersvision, no introductions, and each school stayed to themselves. What is supposed to be accomplished here? Shouldn't there be a represenative from each school making sure things go smooth and interaction is encouraged? I do not see the value in these activities.

Rose:

What school are you from? I didn't think any transition activities have begun yet? I am from Kennedy and the only thing we have done is skating with Hull and it was Hull's school night and they invited Kennedy along. I wouldn't really call it a transition activity, more a friendly neighborhood school gesture.

We have had the same, plus a few other activities. They were not specifically called transition activities, but because the two schools were getting together, I assumed they were some type of transtion activity.

Ahhh...I was just wondering. Thanks :D
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Rose
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Cindi
Mar 7 2006, 05:58 PM
Rose
Mar 7 2006, 05:52 PM
Cindi
Mar 7 2006, 05:43 PM
Rose
Mar 7 2006, 02:55 PM
gr1
Mar 7 2006, 12:33 PM
Rose,
Sorry to hear you had such a tough time with your transitions. 
I also transitioned several times, 6 times to be exact.  Except for two of the transitions, I was always the "new kid" and there were no transition activities to help me and I did not move right along with my friends. 
I did not hate school, made friends and did well.

Just as the lady you mention in your post told her personal story, Your story is yours and mine is mine.  Her point was that these transitions are being carefully planned and if her daughters (and mine for that matter) turned out well despite the fact that there was no planning in place to help ease into the transition, then the extra transitions our kids will make next year are more than likely to turn out for the positive because of all the effort being put into to make them as positive as possible.

I've been to three transition activities with my child. At each activity, there was no supersvision, no introductions, and each school stayed to themselves. What is supposed to be accomplished here? Shouldn't there be a represenative from each school making sure things go smooth and interaction is encouraged? I do not see the value in these activities.

Rose:

What school are you from? I didn't think any transition activities have begun yet? I am from Kennedy and the only thing we have done is skating with Hull and it was Hull's school night and they invited Kennedy along. I wouldn't really call it a transition activity, more a friendly neighborhood school gesture.

We have had the same, plus a few other activities. They were not specifically called transition activities, but because the two schools were getting together, I assumed they were some type of transtion activity.

Ahhh...I was just wondering. Thanks :D

Do you know when the actual "transition activities" will begin? And what kind of activities will they be doing? Just like JM said last night at the BOE meeting, we do not have a 4 tier system, but a staggered system. I call 4 starting times 4 tier. I guess it is in the way you look at it. ;)
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Cindi
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Rose
Mar 7 2006, 06:01 PM
Cindi
Mar 7 2006, 05:58 PM
Rose
Mar 7 2006, 05:52 PM
Cindi
Mar 7 2006, 05:43 PM
Rose
Mar 7 2006, 02:55 PM
gr1
Mar 7 2006, 12:33 PM
Rose,
Sorry to hear you had such a tough time with your transitions. 
I also transitioned several times, 6 times to be exact.  Except for two of the transitions, I was always the "new kid" and there were no transition activities to help me and I did not move right along with my friends. 
I did not hate school, made friends and did well.

Just as the lady you mention in your post told her personal story, Your story is yours and mine is mine.  Her point was that these transitions are being carefully planned and if her daughters (and mine for that matter) turned out well despite the fact that there was no planning in place to help ease into the transition, then the extra transitions our kids will make next year are more than likely to turn out for the positive because of all the effort being put into to make them as positive as possible.

I've been to three transition activities with my child. At each activity, there was no supersvision, no introductions, and each school stayed to themselves. What is supposed to be accomplished here? Shouldn't there be a represenative from each school making sure things go smooth and interaction is encouraged? I do not see the value in these activities.

Rose:

What school are you from? I didn't think any transition activities have begun yet? I am from Kennedy and the only thing we have done is skating with Hull and it was Hull's school night and they invited Kennedy along. I wouldn't really call it a transition activity, more a friendly neighborhood school gesture.

We have had the same, plus a few other activities. They were not specifically called transition activities, but because the two schools were getting together, I assumed they were some type of transtion activity.

Ahhh...I was just wondering. Thanks :D

Do you know when the actual "transition activities" will begin? And what kind of activities will they be doing? Just like JM said last night at the BOE meeting, we do not have a 4 tier system, but a staggered system. I call 4 starting times 4 tier. I guess it is in the way you look at it. ;)

I PM'd you.

Our school is looking at May to start these activities.

Johnson was looking more at determining these activities after teachers have final placements. Our next meeting will not take place until April, TBA.

It is more difficult to set up activities for the Upper El due to the current use of those schools right now.
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not happy in n/w livonia
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I also saw the LI supporter sleeping....I also noted that the woman speaking about the transition team activities spoke very highly of the (para-phrase) "wonderful ideas that the various transition team members have brought about." I'm sure several of us concerned parents would have loved to have been given the opportunity to share "wonderful ideas" with the Demographics Committee during the planning stages of the L.I. Unfortunately we were never given that opportunity. Why is community/parent input good for the transition team and not the L.I. committee? Are they hoping the community can put some frosting on the turd they came up with? (Sorry, I just had to put that in there. It's a nicer word than I wanted to use.)

I would also ask the man who gave the fact that 30 schools have the 5/6 configuration how many of these districts are the size of Livonia.
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livoniamom
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I also vote for ditching the LI, keeping K-6 (or K-5), closing some schools and redistricting. I have no problem with this even though my school would likely still close.

"Keeping the kids together" is a joke when there will likely be 15 5th grade classes. Chances are very high that your child will only know a few children in their class and will not see their close friends all day long.

I'd like to suggest that they keep school communities together at the new schools. For instance, at Coolidge, if there are four first grade classes, why not keep mostly the Tyler kids together and the Coolidge kids together in the same class? This would make the kids happy since they would know more kids in their class and what would be the downside? They could also do this at Riley to help alliviate the likelihood that your kid knows no one in their class.
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Rose
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livoniamom
Mar 7 2006, 07:15 PM
I also vote for ditching the LI, keeping K-6 (or K-5), closing some schools and redistricting. I have no problem with this even though my school would likely still close.

"Keeping the kids together" is a joke when there will likely be 15 5th grade classes. Chances are very high that your child will only know a few children in their class and will not see their close friends all day long.

I'd like to suggest that they keep school communities together at the new schools. For instance, at Coolidge, if there are four first grade classes, why not keep mostly the Tyler kids together and the Coolidge kids together in the same class? This would make the kids happy since they would know more kids in their class and what would be the downside? They could also do this at Riley to help alliviate the likelihood that your kid knows no one in their class.

I think this is a great idea, but do you think they would do that? It just makes sense.
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Rose
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not happy in n/w livonia
Mar 7 2006, 06:11 PM
I also saw the LI supporter sleeping....I also noted that the woman speaking about the transition team activities spoke very highly of the (para-phrase) "wonderful ideas that the various transition team members have brought about." I'm sure several of us concerned parents would have loved to have been given the opportunity to share "wonderful ideas" with the Demographics Committee during the planning stages of the L.I. Unfortunately we were never given that opportunity. Why is community/parent input good for the transition team and not the L.I. committee? Are they hoping the community can put some frosting on the turd they came up with? (Sorry, I just had to put that in there. It's a nicer word than I wanted to use.)

I would also ask the man who gave the fact that 30 schools have the 5/6 configuration how many of these districts are the size of Livonia.

I wondered the same thing. Why is our input so important now? Why didn't they ask before, when the Demographics Committee was being formed?
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gr1
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Suggest it!

Find out who the Representative from your school is on the District Transition Team. They will bring this information to the next meeting.
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NFarquharson
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Are you saying that someone should suggest keeping K-6 or keeping kids from the same school together?
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Hull_alumni
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For what it's worth.. the "couple" of supporters (50' ish) that spoke about their 2 children and (transitions and how the daughter lives 200 miles away) do indeed have 2 children. They spoke of the same two children, the Mrs. just identified herself by her maiden name. Seems like someone is really hunting for supporters to speak.
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Hull_alumni
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or 2000 miles away or whatever
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gr1
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Are you saying that someone should suggest keeping K-6 or keeping kids from the same school together?


Sorry, should have been more clear. Suggest keeping the kids with as many kids from their home school as possible.


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grantmom
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Mar 7 2006, 08:35 PM
For what it's worth.. the "couple" of supporters (50' ish) that spoke about their 2 children and (transitions and how the daughter lives 200 miles away) do indeed have 2 children. They spoke of the same two children, the Mrs. just identified herself by her maiden name. Seems like someone is really hunting for supporters to speak.

You're right, one of the opposers that spoke brought it to everyones attention that they were married. They didn't even sit next to each other :ph43r: .
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