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Pro's and Con's in LPS; what makes you proud or gets your goat?
Topic Started: Mar 3 2006, 10:43 PM (1,557 Views)
Derek
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What things about our school system do you like... which do you get frustrated with or think should change?


One of the things that has frustrated me has been the usage of the new gyms and field houses at the schools that we as tax payers paid for. There are very few places anymore for kids to play basketball outdoors and these gyms provide a perfect environment to offer an opportunity to fill that void.

When waiting for my daughter at swim lessons at Franklin, or basketball practice at Riley, I have literally been forced out of the vacant gym and not allowed to shoot baskets with my other daughter. Keeping kids out of trouble today means keeping them involved. Utilizing our school facilities would be a big plus to that end.

What makes you say Hey, or "gets your goat"?
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Derek
Mar 3 2006, 10:43 PM
What makes you say Hey, or "gets your goat"?

Skin cats.......get goats.........what is it with the animals..........???

just a funny
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Derek
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Not to say this is a pro or con but...

In today's internet world, there could be much more use of the computers to provide info to parents. At the Emerson open house I attended, someone brought up the fact that some districts parents have the ability to go online and see their kids test results and current compiled grade in every subject! I think that would provide a tremendous opportunity for parents to be more involved in keeping our children on course when they start to stray.

I know initially the school reaction may be that it would be another step of work away from the eduction of children. But if they record the grades somewhere, once up and running, it should be as simple as recording them in a book.

What do you think?

-Derek
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NFarquharson
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Great idea. It will be a big shift, as many teachers are not even comfortable with e-mail, but it's time to do things like this.
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Mrs.M
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Such critter is already out there. CHS parents are able to access up-to-date reports on attendance, homework assignments, test grades and their child's current grade. All information is arranged by class hour and is quite thorough! I would think the other high schools have the same animal. Maybe? Maybe parents don't know about it...inquire at parent teacher conferences this Wednesday. Make sure you're on your highschool's mailing list for info!
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Mar 4 2006, 11:38 AM
Great idea. It will be a big shift, as many teachers are not even comfortable with e-mail, but it's time to do things like this.

Yes, it is a very good idea. However, tech support was one area that took a big hit a couple of years ago. When having to make a choice between technology and programs that benefitted student learning, thankfully students programs and the support they needed were spared. I think the majority of teachers are comfortable with email. They have district email accounts. Why not provide them with your email and suggest correspondence with them using that means? I'm sure you will find them very agreeable to that. It is so very difficult to rely on phone calls anymore. I find nothing more frustrating that endless games of phone tag! :)
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It's called Pinnacle Internet Viewer
A wonderful assistant for those parents who continue to take an active role in their child's education. Yes I know they're in high school...

To access the info..parents need to know their student's id number and PIN number...PIn # is attainable from an assistant principal.
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Derek
Mar 4 2006, 10:33 AM
Not to say this is a pro or con but...

In today's internet world, there could be much more use of the computers to provide info to parents. At the Emerson open house I attended, someone brought up the fact that some districts parents have the ability to go online and see their kids test results and current compiled grade in every subject! I think that would provide a tremendous opportunity for parents to be more involved in keeping our children on course when they start to stray.

I know initially the school reaction may be that it would be another step of work away from the eduction of children. But if they record the grades somewhere, once up and running, it should be as simple as recording them in a book.

What do you think?

-Derek

We need to start shouting this from the rooftops...
Why cant our district utilize electronic communication more?

Start sending all the teacher correspondence etc.. by email

FREEMAN DO YOU HEAR ME? YOU RAN ON THIS PREMISE!!
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sunshine
Mar 4 2006, 12:00 PM
NFarquharson
Mar 4 2006, 11:38 AM
Great idea.  It will be a big shift, as many teachers are not even comfortable with e-mail, but it's time to do things like this.

Yes, it is a very good idea. However, tech support was one area that took a big hit a couple of years ago. When having to make a choice between technology and programs that benefitted student learning, thankfully students programs and the support they needed were spared. I think the majority of teachers are comfortable with email. They have district email accounts. Why not provide them with your email and suggest correspondence with them using that means? I'm sure you will find them very agreeable to that. It is so very difficult to rely on phone calls anymore. I find nothing more frustrating that endless games of phone tag! :)

In my children's elementary school, it has been my experience that most teachers do not like e-mail. They often say that outright in the beginning of the year, telling parents to leave voice mail messages instead. Since I work but am not always at my desk and of course teachers are busy teaching, phone calls are difficult. Perhaps in the high schools or at other schools things are different, but that has not been the case at our school. In fact, teachers do not even give out their email addresses much. We get a phone list home but not e-mail addresses.
I have also e-mailed others in the district and received no response at all. Seems some may not even read their e-mail. I don't bother trying any more. Seems like an area to improve. I would love to get feedback more often.
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NFarquharson
Mar 4 2006, 12:15 PM
sunshine
Mar 4 2006, 12:00 PM
NFarquharson
Mar 4 2006, 11:38 AM
Great idea.  It will be a big shift, as many teachers are not even comfortable with e-mail, but it's time to do things like this.

Yes, it is a very good idea. However, tech support was one area that took a big hit a couple of years ago. When having to make a choice between technology and programs that benefitted student learning, thankfully students programs and the support they needed were spared. I think the majority of teachers are comfortable with email. They have district email accounts. Why not provide them with your email and suggest correspondence with them using that means? I'm sure you will find them very agreeable to that. It is so very difficult to rely on phone calls anymore. I find nothing more frustrating that endless games of phone tag! :)

In my children's elementary school, it has been my experience that most teachers do not like e-mail. They often say that outright in the beginning of the year, telling parents to leave voice mail messages instead. Since I work but am not always at my desk and of course teachers are busy teaching, phone calls are difficult. Perhaps in the high schools or at other schools things are different, but that has not been the case at our school. Infact, teachers do not even give out their email addresses much. We get a phone list home but not e-mail addresses. Seems like an area to improve. I would love to get feedback more often.

Wow! E-mail is the only way I communicate with my kid's 2nd and 5th grade teachers IF I don't speak to them in person. Since I help in class and drive on field trips, I have a chance to speak to my kid's teachers face-to-face. But otherwise, it's all about the e-mail, baby :lol:
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I think email is the way to go. I teach 8th grade Language Arts and Physical Science in Farmington and my teammate and I send home electronic progress reports on a weekly basis using email. We also keep an updated web page as well. We actually discourage phone messages because email is much more efficient.

My biggest GRIPE... I think we should know who are children's teachers are going to be in June when we get the last report card. I know principals are afraid of things changing and the grief that they will get, but my feeling is it is their job to take that grief and their job to be organized and prepared so that teacher's and students know where they will be the following year. Additionally, I want time to vent and try to get things changed if I need to or I am unhappy with the placement. I feel that my feelings as the parent should be valued and there should be time to make changes. It pisses me off and I am sick of excuses. They are lame excuses. I want to know what to expect and so do my children. So, I say... Administrator's, GET IT TOGETHER and serve your families.

As you can see, I REALLY have strong, STRONG feelings about this! :)
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NFarquharson
Mar 4 2006, 12:15 PM
In my children's elementary school, it has been my experience that most teachers do not like e-mail. They often say that outright in the beginning of the year, telling parents to leave voice mail messages instead. Since I work but am not always at my desk and of course teachers are busy teaching, phone calls are difficult. Perhaps in the high schools or at other schools things are different, but that has not been the case at our school. In fact, teachers do not even give out their email addresses much. We get a phone list home but not e-mail addresses.
I have also e-mailed others in the district and received no response at all. Seems some may not even read their e-mail. I don't bother trying any more. Seems like an area to improve. I would love to get feedback more often.

Generally speaking, email addresses work like this: first 8 letters, including initial of first name, then first 7 letters of last name@livonia.k12.mi.us. So, yours would be NFarguha@livonia.k12.mi.us
I must admit that I'm not too good at checking voice mails...we don't have a blinking light or anything to let us know that we have messages, and the menu that one has to go through to get messages uses precious time. Often, I panic and think "Gosh, I haven't checked voice mail today!" Thank goodness answering machines at home blink to alert me! But if I am logged on to computer, I can easily see that new mail has arrived. And, of course, the daily assignment book is always a way to let teacher know of concerns. Just attach a note if you need to contact teacher. I agree....email is the best way to go when concerns are minor, such as when the next science quiz is. When concerns are more pressing a conference in person is ideal, but a phone call is better than email. We can't allow technology to replace the richness of the partnership between teacher and parent.
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gr1
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Regarding email, and I really don't want to offend anyone with this, but...

My daughter has had teachers who only want to be contacted by email, others who prefer the note pinned to her shirt or a voice mail message. I am not generalizing, but simply stating that among the teachers I have needed to communicate with, the younger the teacher, the more apt they are to prefer email.
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cmic
Mar 4 2006, 12:24 PM
My biggest GRIPE... I think we should know who are children's teachers are going to be in June when we get the last report card. I know principals are afraid of things changing and the grief that they will get, but my feeling is it is their job to take that grief and their job to be organized and prepared so that teacher's and students know where they will be the following year. Additionally, I want time to vent and try to get things changed if I need to or I am unhappy with the placement. I feel that my feelings as the parent should be valued and there should be time to make changes. It pisses me off and I am sick of excuses. They are lame excuses. I want to know what to expect and so do my children. So, I say... Administrator's, GET IT TOGETHER and serve your families.

As you can see, I REALLY have strong, STRONG feelings about this! :)

As with the LI, their decisions are very self-seeking. They appear do things that will benefit them before what's best for the children or parents.
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Rose
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My child's teacher is older and prefers e-mails. I find them quite convenient myself and like this idea. I can e-mail the teacher before school starts and the e-mail will be there before my child gets to school. Otherwise, I send a note in my child's backpack.
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