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Why was there only "1" option???; What if the BOE said "NO"?
Topic Started: Jan 2 2006, 07:27 PM (1,944 Views)
fyi
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I also read about a BOE reversing a decision that they made. They received so much public outcry, they changed their minds. It could happen.
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Mom2Three
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After researching other school districts around the country that have changed their grade configurations, I found that many of those communities were given informational letters listing facts and figures that explained the change.
We, on the other hand, were given nothing. We have no information or facts as to the cost savings of this configuration and why it was the only configuration that was presented..
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ForMySons
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Mom2Three
Jan 3 2006, 02:04 PM
We, on the other hand, were given nothing. We have no information or facts as to the cost savings of this configuration and why it was the only configuration that was presented..

What makes this very interesting is Dr. Liepa's previous job as the finance guy for Wayne/Westland Schools.
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anothermom
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Ok Formysons, I'm taking the bait... WHAT is so INTERESTING about the fact that Dr. Liepa worked for Wayne/Westland schools as the "financial guy?" (if that is really true) I read the thread and can't figure out where you are coming from.

Sounds like you have some conspiracy theory brewing in your head..
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ForMySons
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anothermom
Jan 3 2006, 07:45 PM
Ok Formysons, I'm taking the bait... WHAT is so INTERESTING about the fact that Dr. Liepa worked for Wayne/Westland schools as the "financial guy?" (if that is really true) I read the thread and can't figure out where you are coming from.

Sounds like you have some conspiracy theory brewing in your head..

I have no conspiracy theory, but I cannot understand how someone who has handled budgets, etc. for another school district, could put together such minimal financials for this initiative. I have been told by several people that Dr. Liepa was the budget and finance guy for Wayne/Westland schools before he came to Livonia schools, but have no other proof.
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ForMySons
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ForMySons
Jan 3 2006, 07:52 PM
I have been told by several people that Dr. Liepa was the budget and finance guy for Wayne/Westland schools before he came to Livonia schools, but have no other proof.

Actually, I do have proof of Dr. Liepa's background. See the link below which is the LPS Dialogue introducing Dr. Liepa as the new super:

http://www.livonia.k12.mi.us/great/dialogu...dy%20Liepa'
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Want2move
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Mom2Three
Jan 3 2006, 02:04 PM
After researching other school districts around the country that have changed their grade configurations, I found that many of those communities were given informational letters listing facts and figures that explained the change.
We, on the other hand, were given nothing. We have no information or facts as to the cost savings of this configuration and why it was the only configuration that was presented..

I heard an interesting comment today from a Neighbor, who knows one of the Demographic Committee members.
Apparently this DC member came right out and said that the 5/6 saved the most LPS jobs, thats why it was the only one proposed.
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fyi
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So they picked the plan that was most favorable to the Union?
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Cindi
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Does that surprise us? The Union plays some big parts and they fight for their dues. MEA (Michigan Education Association I believe) is one of the largest and lucrative unions in the country. I have read a lot of not so favorable articles involving the MEA. Some of the MEA administrators make some BIG money too!
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Iliveon-Levandownbytheriver
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Want2move
Jan 3 2006, 08:04 PM
Mom2Three
Jan 3 2006, 02:04 PM
After researching other school districts around the country that have changed their grade configurations, I found that many of those communities were given informational letters listing facts and figures that explained the change.
We, on the other hand, were given nothing. We have no information or facts as to the cost savings of this configuration and why it was the only configuration that was presented..

I heard an interesting comment today from a Neighbor, who knows one of the Demographic Committee members.
Apparently this DC member came right out and said that the 5/6 saved the most LPS jobs, thats why it was the only one proposed.

well....if it saves the most jobs...then how is that saving the most money? I thought that was the whole pitch! Nice....real nice.

Dont we have several hundred more employees than Canton? How come they can run on less employees than we can? Hmmmm....makes you think....whats best for the kids huh?
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Rose
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Scam, Sham and Shabam!!!! That's all I can say right now folks....too upset.
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Grant1
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We have just begun to fight!
I said it before and I'll say it again

I am waaaaay too curious on why the unions, teachers administration, and PTA/PTSA administration is being sooooo mum on this...could it be...because they are all in collusion?!?!
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anothermom
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Would teacher cuts really be an acceptable alternative for you? How could teacher cuts happen without an explosion of class size and the elimination of art, PE and music? Wouldn't we lose some of our youngest teachers who are often bringing the newest ideas into our district?

Try to look beyond making the teacher's union a scapegoat. I say, thank God there is a strong teacher's union that has secured jobs for talented people to choose the teaching of our children as their vocation. What kind of people would teaching attract if the pay was any lower? Teachers must have master's degrees and BEYOND to continue their certification and you can look at economic indexes to see that they are paid far less than those involved in the business world with less education. Also remember that those same teachers unions are also the ones that keep the fight for lower class sizes at the forefront of negotiations. They do this and so much more for the good of our children.

And school administrators- guess what they used to do? TEACH our CHILDREN. They are not three headed monsters out to "get ahead". They have dedicated themselves for years to the education of children.

I don't mean to make this a heated topic. I just don't want to lose track of the fact that we should be PROUD that we are not cutting teachers. This speaks volumes about the real quality of LPS.
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Grant1
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anothermom
Jan 3 2006, 10:12 PM
Would teacher cuts really be an acceptable alternative for you?  How could teacher cuts happen without an explosion of class size and the elimination of art, PE and music?  Wouldn't we lose some of our youngest teachers who are often bringing the newest ideas into our district?   

Try to look beyond making the teacher's union a scapegoat.  I say, thank God there is a strong teacher's union that has secured jobs for talented people to choose the teaching of our children as their vocation.  What kind of people would teaching attract if the pay was any lower?  Teachers must have master's degrees and BEYOND to continue their certification and you can look at economic indexes to see that they are paid far less than those involved in the business world with less education.  Also remember that those same teachers unions are also the ones that keep the fight for lower class sizes at the forefront of negotiations.  They do this and so much more for the good of our children.

And school administrators- guess what they used to do?  TEACH our CHILDREN.  They are not three headed monsters out to "get ahead".  They have dedicated themselves for years to the education of children. 

I don't mean to make this a heated topic.  I just don't want to lose track of the fact that we should be PROUD that we are not cutting teachers. This speaks volumes about the real quality of LPS.

Oh, I don't doubt that we have the best we can get, and I have been entirely grateful for that for the years I went through Livonia Schools and the years my children have been through the same schools, but there is something fishy schmelling out there. I wouldn't want to see teachers cut, or any other teaching professional. There are many other ways to get a rabbit out of his hole - I prefer to use the carrot rather than the stick.
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Tyler_Parent
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anothermom
Jan 3 2006, 10:12 PM
Wouldn't we lose some of our youngest teachers who are often bringing the newest ideas into our district?

Is that a pro or con for the teachers union?
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