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ACAT/MACAT; XYZ--This is for YOU
Topic Started: Dec 29 2005, 03:54 PM (4,407 Views)
fyi
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:The name of the suburb starts with "W."

That is unbelievable. Just goes to show you that things can happen no matter where you live. Did you read about the 2 gentlemen in a northwest neighborhood of Livonia recently? They were running an illegal operation from their Livonia home
(it had to do with that date/grocery thing you spoke of).
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grantmom
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As an observer of your conversations, I now ask what is the difference between Livonia/Westland and Detroit people?
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Tyler_Parent
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In either place, you would prefer that your little ones were going to school right across the street, and were playing with kids that you knew, and knew their parents.

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Since we've returned to the ACAT/MACAT topic, I've editied a previous post.

First I was thinking that my school's label was "Not Title 1 and across the street," and then I remembered that its new label is "CLOSED." I don't find thinking hard, and I don't jump to conclusions. Its not what one kid said, its 15 years of how was your day at work dear? Title 1 isn’t a label, it’s a statistic that one should consider when buying their home. That's as far as I can go while continuing to use "I" statements. I'm pretty confident that I won't run into most BB members while visiting the old neighborhood, but I do often see the Clarenceville kids over there looking like tourists buying souvenirs.
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Rose
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grantmom
Jan 3 2006, 11:45 AM
As an observer of your conversations, I now ask what is the difference between Livonia/Westland and Detroit people?

Nothing.
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anothermom
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...and then find out that their kids will be bussed to a Title 1 school in Westland instead of right accross the street.." posted by Tyler Parent

This is what I meant in terms of refraining from judgements or the use of labels. If you have labeled those schools only as "Title I schools", than what is the label for your school?

Please, stop generalizing and think hard before you jump to conslusions about what one child said to someone else, and then post such an inflamatory story on this BB.
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Rose
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Thank you, I agree.
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fyi
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I find some of the reasons for opposing the LI (held by a few), are not valid.
Some the reasons I have read are: title one status, location in Westland, socio-economic class of the students. I believe that these reasons are not respresentative of the community as a whole.

I can understand why people would oppose the LI due to the Cooper health concerns. If you live in the middle of the city and are being bussed to Johnson, I would also be concerned---it's quite a distance. Just my 2 cents.

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Anna Krome
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Hi Guys,

Let's start a new topic somewhere else about this. In addition, this has been discussed in a really long string back a few weeks, if anyone wants to check it out.

A lot of newbies are hitting the site, so we owe it them to have consistent strings--on topic--so they do not wonder what happened to the topic.

Maybe we've said all we can about this one?

Anna Krome

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c3hull
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I agree with Anna. This is a touchy subject and could turn ugly real fast. I recommend this subject should end. Thanks!
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livoniarecall
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C3HULL:
Maybe this socio-economic discussion could be moved under a different topic? Not saying to delete, or to continue the conversation. Just so that this area returns to the subject of ACAT/MACAT.
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Anna Krome
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That's a great idea. Go ahead and start new topic.

Anna Krome
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c3hull
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Sounds good. Let the orginal topic resume.
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livoniarecall
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Javits Funding

This is not an argument for or against any position or previous statement. It is purely for edification purposes related to Javits for anyone that might be curious. I posed this question: Does Michigan receive any funding under Javits, and if so, does any of that make it to LPS. These are the responses that I received.

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From Susan Ryan, a retired gifted coordinator in Livonia Public Schools....
There is no money from Javits going into Livonia...one writes and wins this grant with a proposal for a specific purpose, not to run a local program....Susan

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From Sue Vogel, former Javits-funded program evaluator.....
To the best of my knowledge, MI received only one Javits grant; that was in the 90's when Kalamazoo Public Schools was a grant recipient, a project for which I was the program evaluator. Most of the grants have been awarded to more "global" projects, if you will.

The National Research Center for G/T at UConn/Storrs has produced/ supported wonderful, careful, validated research, videotapes, easy to use brochures, etc., available to everyone--including MI educators which, if properly used IMHO*, should have changed g/t ed in this state. However, the old problem persists here: teacher/administrator training institutions just don't address the needs of this population, and therefore few districts emphasize/give credence to meeting their needs. If you have been a member of the MI Alliance, I'm sure you have been exposed to many of the products of the NRCG/T.

Karen Rogers did seminal work in her meta-evaluation of studies about placements / structures (including Slavin's) which benefit g/t kids in the 90's, which has also had insufficient distribution.

Additionally, Joyce Van Tassel-Baska has produced some very useful, easy-to-use curricula, including teacher training, for g/t youngsters through Javits grants. These are also under-utilized in MI IMHO*.

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From Suzanne Hosking, Michigan Alliance (for Gifted Education) Advocacy Chair.....
This is information previously sent out by Carol McCarthy in response to a similar question. While you may not see funding through the Javits program to Livonia PS directly, all districts benefit from the research aspect as there is no other federal program for gifted.

Suzanne Hosking
Michigan Alliance Advocacy Chair


Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:46:44 -0500

The Javits money is the only Federal money that supports gifted nationally. We've all benefited from the tremendous, practical research (on early reading, curriculum compacting, acceleration, policy issues in states, etc.) completed and widely distributed in monographs, easy-to-read brochures for outreach, etc. -- all conducted because of Javits support to the NRC-GT (National Research Center) in Conn.

For example, it was their research that documented the now, often-quoted statistic that elem. gifted kids know 50% of grade level content (and highly gifted kids know 80%) at the start of the school year.

(With the precipitous drop in state funding for gifted in many states, Javits funding is the only thing that keeps gifted needs somewhat visible. In politics, once an issue is "off the radar" for funding, it ceases to exist.)

Javits funds also support grants for a few local programs. Michigan is overdue to get one--the only one we received was to the Kalamazoo Public Schools/Kalamazoo College during the 1990's. Their requirements for documentation and good evaluation design lend credibility to Javits-funded programs.

In the past, Javits provided about 50% support to state depts of educ. for gifted coordinator services. I don't know if that is still true.

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* IMHO = In My Honest Opinion
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Anna Krome
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Your research skills are quite admirable.

Susan Ryan is a great person and resource. I am glad you spoke to her.

It's obvious that we're discussing a semantics issue, regarding what entails "funding," or what makes education "special."

The fact that Livonia provides this unique educational opportunity, which acts as a "magnet" for people to move to the city, is priceless.

Our progressive program is one of only a handful in the nation, which provides a completely dedicated program for this population. It is very, very special.

This particular program is not TAG or a few offered AP classes. The program entails complete immersion.

Anna Krome
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Anna Krome
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Contact the MI Alliance for Gifted Education, www.migiftedchild.org.

BRIGHTON – Gifted Symposium Jan. 27 & 28, 2006
The presenters for this symposium in Brighton, MI are Dr. Barbara Clark(“Growing Up Gifted”) and Dr. Edward Amend (“Misdiagnosis & Dual Diagnosis of Gifted…”), both highly acclaimed international speakers about gifted children and gifted education.  The two days provide an educator’s day and a parent day.  Preregistration required.  Special parent price for Saturday!  At Genoa Woods Conference Center, 7707 Conference Center Drive, Brighton, MI. Please go to www.csaschool.com for a link to their brochure and registration information.

LANSING - SOAR meeting, Monday, January 30, 7 pm
"Twice Exceptional Students" Guest Speaker: Julie Billett, MSN, NP, and Educational Therapist. SOAR (Supporting Okemos Academic Resources) will hold their January program with Lansing Public Schools on Monday, Jan. 30 at 7 p in the Russ Maples Conference Room (2nd floor) of the Hill Center for Academics & Technology (previously known as Hill High School), 5815 Wise Road in southwest Lansing, close to the MLK exit off I-96. Twice exceptional (2E) students are gifted and have a disability which masks their giftedness. Contact Laurie Koochesfahani at koochesf@msu.edu for more information.



 
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