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Thanks Rose! You seem like a very sincere person. We all want what's best for our kids. We are not bad people. We feel left out of the process.
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Dec 26 2005, 04:08 PM
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Dec 26 2005, 10:53 AM
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Dec 26 2005, 08:59 AM
Has no significant adverse side effects on the majority of the student body?

I bet you could say that about a lot of things.  Unfortunately, it is usually discovered that what ever is "good" today is not always "good" tommorrow.  When it comes to my children's education, I prefer things that have been proven to work.
This configuration has not been proven on a district of our size.  The majority of the community does not agree with it or support it.  It is doomed to fail without adequate support.  I do not want my child to be an educational experiment for this district.  Our children will lose much while the "kinks" of this plan are worked out.
It's the wrong plan at the wrong time!

None have you have provided any credible adverse effects which the Legacy Initiative will have on the student body. I agree that there will be "kinks" in the plan, however, this plan does not affect the fundamental learning environment and learning experience. The students will still go to their classroom, listen to the teacher, do schoolwork and homework (providing the parents enforce that), and learn. Additionally, this plan is "good" for tomorrow. It plans for declining enrollment.

I am an example of many transitions. I had transtioned many times because my family had moved alot. By high school, I was so transitioned out, I became withdrawn and felt I really didn't fit anywhere. My child, has transitioned twice, but if we go through the LI, there will be four more transitions before high school. I said I would never do this to my child. Luckily, I have a very social and competent child, but I saw the last transition take a toll on my child last year. This year, things are back to normal, thank goodness. Transitions took take a toll on kids. Anything we lose such as friends, school, home, or community, affects us and especially affects the children. Yes, as parents we do our best to help them through difficult times, and yes children tend to be a little more relisient than adults, but it still affects them and people need to recognize this fact.

I recognize that some children will be affected by an additional school transition. Regardless, I do not think, and have not seen significant credible evidence, that the additional transition will hurt the majority of the student body. However, remember that the school-to-school transitions in LPS will be made with the same student body. My biggest conern about school-to-school transitions was loosing my friends. The Legacy Initiative is designed in such a way that, with the exception of a few small pockets of Livonia (nothing can be 100% perfect), all the students will be with their peers for the duration of their K-12 education. Rose, your example does not fit the situation as you "moved" often. Through moving you lost all your old friends. Livonia does not have this as a case and will not have it occur under the Legacy Initiative.
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XYZ,

How do you know that the majority of students will not be affected by the LI?
Do you have a crystal ball? This has never been attempted on a district of our size, and more importantly, it has never been done in LIVONIA!! This has the potential of being disasterous for the entire community. It lacks community support. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it is doomed to fail.
Add in all the other variables---kids leaving the district---and it's a mess!!!
There is sufficient reasonable doubt (among the stakeholders), that should make the BOE re-think their decision.
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Dec 26 2005, 04:49 PM
Any pediatric ENT Specialists out there?

I just took my son to see a really good one, Jeffrey Leider on Orchard Lake between Gd. River and 10 Mile.
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Oh I get it now, forgive me I can be a little slow sometimes :blink:
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Dec 26 2005, 04:42 PM
XYZ,

How do you know that the majority of students will not be affected by the LI?
Do you have a crystal ball?  This has never been attempted on a district of our size, and more importantly, it has never been done in LIVONIA!!  This has the potential of being disasterous for the entire community.  It lacks community support.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it is doomed to fail.
Add in all the other variables---kids leaving the district---and it's a mess!!!
There is sufficient reasonable doubt (among the stakeholders),  that should make the BOE re-think their decision.

Fyi, I never said I "knew that the majority of students will not be affected by the LI." If I did, my apoligies and I take it back. I did say that I do not think that the majority of students will be affected that the Legacy Initiative and that I have not yet seen any significant evidence to support the 'theory' that students will be hurt.

I agree that the stage is set for disaster. However, I don't think the board members should be blamed for it. Yes, they did not listen to a very vocal group. However, they were placed in a position where something had do be done to fix the budget and declining enrollment. I think if anything Citizens for Livonia's Future should be blamed for any disaster which is caused! The organization is pulling the community together to tear apart the district and to hurt every single student that remains in LPS.

Additionally, I would expect that after the board members got news of a recall they rethought their choice. Rethinking the choice does not mean changing it. Also, I don't agree that there is "reasonable doubt".

P.S. Rocket science is only a four year degree (or so I've heard).
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You are entitled to your opinion. I am glad that we both a agree that this plan is a disaster in the making. Re-thinking a decision and changing your mind seem to go hand-in-hand. If they are having doubts that they may have made the wrong choice, it's not too late for a "resolution" on the issue.
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To say this is the best solution is just as ridiculous as saying it's the worst. Formulating opinions solely based on the data is a very flawed way of looking at this.

It seems to me there is data to support both sides of this argument, depending upon which facts you decide to embrace, and how you choose to interpret the data. Everyone has to take a side based upon how it impacts them the most. This whole debate could have been avoided had our elected officials and school administrators simply done the right thing from inception, and worked with the people who this will affect. They chose to manipulate the system to their advantage, and will now have to pay for their lack of forethought.

After looking over the posts in this forum, reading the research, and following the links provided, the pros and cons have pretty much been laid out on the table. I'm not sure what some people are looking for as far as arguments for/against this anymore.

It must be very comfortable, to be in a place where this LI does not affect oneself, or one's children. Unfortunately, that is also a place where all the problems this LI brings cannot be understood. Sometimes, being very smart isn't enough.

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