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| rooseveltmom | Dec 9 2005, 01:55 AM Post #16 |
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Dearest livonia2252 The problem is that we moved to this area because our children were within walking distance to their schools. That is part of what makes Livonia Schools so wonderful. It is hard enough to have a few children in my backseat. I can't imagine 80 at three to a seat. If we wanted a 5 mile ride we would have moved there. And a five mile ride is not so bad, but once you add the stops..,,well the time adds up. Futhermore that is not what the fuss is about. The fuss is about the misrepresenatation of this whole entire proposal. If you research the "FACTS" anyone can see it is not good for us. Especially in our one mile radious. We have the most to lose along with Adams. I have no problem with my children being bussed to Franklin in High School, I have heard wonderful things. I do have a problem with bussing upper elemantary that distance, not when there are schools closer. |
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| Anna Krome | Dec 9 2005, 09:00 AM Post #17 |
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Thanks R-Mom. Anna Krome |
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| Livonia2252 | Dec 9 2005, 04:59 PM Post #18 |
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I was bussed to Roosevelt, Riley, and Stevenson, and my sister is in Roosevelt now. Just two blocks from my house sits an old school called Taft, that was once within walking distance for us however the school system shut that school years ago, as they are now, to save money. This money they are saving is what is going to continue to make Livonia Schools some of the best around. Just think of all the other schools in the city that have also been shut down over the years, if they were to have kept them all open just so students could walk to school the system would have failed years ago. So I ask you this, why are you better off them we were? Why should we have to take a bus, and you get to walk? Another point that confused me even more is why you’re upset about your students having to ride the bus. Granted I am not a parent yet, but I would assume that it would be much safer for my children to walk one block to a bus stop and then take a safe bus ride to school then it would be for them to walk up to one mile as they do now. If fact if I were you I would have purposely have bought a house were my children would be bused verse were they would have had to walk. My point, if you all want Livonia to remain a great city with a great school system you must realize that the school board has to make some difficult decisions. These decisions have been well thought out, well planned, and are being made to keep Livonia Schools providing the best possible education to your students. |
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| Livonia2252 | Dec 9 2005, 05:14 PM Post #19 |
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Its also funny how everyone is all upset that there students have to travel to a school farther away for 5th and 6th grade. (Up too 3 and a half miles) And then are also complaining that there students have to go to Franklin instead of Churchill, when Franklin is only 3 miles away and Churchill is over 5 miles away. Sounds a little hypocritical to me! |
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| MOMOFTHREE | Dec 9 2005, 05:20 PM Post #20 |
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Livonia, Are you a homeowner? Do you pay taxes? |
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| Livonia2252 | Dec 9 2005, 05:49 PM Post #21 |
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Not that any of this is relevant; I grew up in Livonia, where I still live with my parents while I am finishing Law School. Regardless, I am a voting member of the city of Livonia, which entitles me to just as mush say as you! |
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| mom of 3 | Dec 9 2005, 08:26 PM Post #22 |
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Livonia2252, Sorry I just have to be mean. When you have children that this affects, you can have as "mush" to say as the rest of us. |
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| DENISE05 | Dec 9 2005, 08:39 PM Post #23 |
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Franklin is a great school.... Someone wrote a post that said "Livonia's little secret " This is a quote from a former Livonia cop. There are a lot of bad things going on at Churchill and Stevenson. I guess it comes down to the family and the community sticking together and NOT putting down other schools. |
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| Timetoheal | Dec 9 2005, 09:02 PM Post #24 |
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In case you haven't noticed, there is a ton of hypocrisy on these forums! But, remember, opposing views are not really welcomed on this site. Because if you say anything in support of the proposal, you are accused of being a school board member or a member of the Demographics Committee! |
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| Cindi | Dec 9 2005, 10:35 PM Post #25 |
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I believe people on this board get tired of hearing opinions with no factual data to support the plan. I still would like to see some relevant, factual, documented research that this plan provides academic achievement, provides a positive learing and socio economic environment, and I would love to see some factual not opinionated research that all these transisitonings will benefit our children. If you find something then post it! The only thing I can agree on with people who are in support of the plan is that everyone needs to focus on the positives for the childrens sake. |
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| DENISE05 | Dec 10 2005, 05:48 PM Post #26 |
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Dear 2252, I agree with you....I want my children to attend Franklin....There is to much trouble at the other schools. People need to look at the big picture...family!! We all moved here for certain schools. But, we have to do something. We should just support our schools and support our kids. |
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| Livonia2252 | Dec 11 2005, 06:48 PM Post #27 |
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Yes, we should support our schools, as well as the people that we have elected to run them. We have entrusted in them the right to make these difficult decisions and only time will tell if they work… but change is always good! I have no doubt in my mind that anyone of the school board members would have voted yes on this change if they thought the quality of education would be effected in any way. Now I am not saying you should all abandon your constitutional right to voice your opinion, but just because changes are on the horizon does not mean you need to overreact (IE pulling your children out of there schools, recalling the board….) Maybe if your were more inclined to work with the board they would be more inclined to work with you, instead if just issuing senseless threats towards them. As I have said before the only issue I see a reasonable one is the health issues (if there are any) at the new Cooper school site |
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| Grant | Dec 11 2005, 08:29 PM Post #28 |
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Livonia2252 There is a real problem with your quote here.... "Maybe if your were more inclined to work with the board they would be more inclined to work with you, instead if just issuing senseless threats towards them." Okay, first of all....they never worked with us...they just told us what was going to happen. There was no working with us in anyway. We would all love to work together! We asked and in some cases we begged...and they want nothing to do with any suggestions from any one of us! Don't you understand why we are all upset. None of us knew this was coming..none of us had a say so in any of it either. We elected them to represent us. When did that happen here? If there are other options to save the same money....and I believe there were...then why couldn't we reach some compromise? They didn't want one thats why. They have their own agenda and thats it...end of story. And as for change...change is not always a good thing. Change is inevitable....not always good. |
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| rmille26 | Dec 12 2005, 12:46 PM Post #29 |
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Livonia2252 I read that you are attending law school. Way to go, good luck. Now I know that to get into law school you have to do quite a bit of research, so you are familiar with google. If you want to know if the Cooper Site is safe, just google facts. Toxic airborne particles, there is enough information there alone to create nightmares. Also the EPA has spoken on record that when they start building across the street from the Cooper School that OUR CHILDREN will be attending ,there will be airborne particles. Now if you were a parent would these facts make you think that perhaps this is not a good idea. Buy the way I have asked the BOE 3 times for documents to prove that the Cooper School is safe. I have not received ANY INFORMATION!! The school site has not been tested since 1991. THIS IS FACTUAL INFORMATION FROM THE EPA. If you are interested in getting the information to become more proactive by all means e-mail me and I will send you all the information I have. |
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| Livonia2252 | Dec 12 2005, 11:58 PM Post #30 |
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…and if you have read anything that I have said...the cooper problem is the only Idea I agree with all of you on. I support the K-4, 5-6, 7-8, 9-12 (Look at Novi, East Lansing etc... Great School Systems) I support getting rid of the split middle school, I went to Riley, all of my friends went to Churchill and I went to Stevenson... It made all of us a real minority. I have no problem with bussing, I feel bus transportation is safer then having your children walk over a mile to school. I DO NOT support sending your children to Cooper. Yes my sister will be going to Homes, so maybe we don’t have as much to loose, but if there is any chance that Cooper is unsafe your children should not be there. I feel that the only valid argument you all have is the Cooper issue - Send the Riley 5-6 program to Dickson and the Cooper 5-6 to Riley - Problem Solved |
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