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Dream 14th September 2008
Topic Started: Sep 14 2008, 10:48 AM (1,289 Views)
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NOTE: My second relevant dream is on Page 3, half way down.. search for "muiu"

I had a dream about god and i was in the dream... in the dream i said something like god knows me as (and i heard myself say "Mu", it came out of the blue, it was not something i would ever think of saying and i know nothing about Mu)...

basically god knows me as "Mu"

i forgot to add the name came to me as a word also so i know it was Mu and not something like Moo.

the rest of the dream was like this... i dreamt of homeless people who were eating peoples leftovers from bins (thrown out food).. there was a traveller come by and he also ate from the bins as well, i guess it was a long journey and he needed to eat... in the dream i feared the homeless people would eat me (canibalism.. now in real life i have no problem with homeless people, i feel very sorry for them.. could even say i care about them).. in the dream i was in the situation where i needed to eat from the bins because i had no other food i guess but i was too proud to do so...

in the dream i knew that god would end it (the world) soon... i was thinking what will i do then.. came to me that god had been carrying me (as well as carrying many others).. that what would i do in the end, and i thought hate god... there was a part about the afterlife that i was thinking about that i can't remember.. i thought that the reason i thought god was carrying me was because i had been getting through life, being carried through life by my strong views against god and even my hatred of him, that if you took that away then what would be left in my life, would i have got this far etc.

this is a possibility and i only thought of this later.. the homeless people may have been by the side of a railway track, but next to buildings near to it... i'm really not sure about a rsilway track being there.
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I know nothing about the lost continent of Mu described in legend, can't say i remember reading anything about it... after i had the dream i thought that Mu was the name of a god and that god had possibly told me who i was, i have a drive to find out more about myself, my higher self / soul... and i'm not saying i am a god but because of the magical power i've had in this life i have wondered.

anyway.. i looked up Mu on the internet and have 5 websites open.. i guess i will cut and paste some info but i'm not sure any of it will help explain why i am known as Mu by god...

and i'm not sure all of this information is factual / true...

http://raphaelonline.com/civilizations.htm

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Not only was there a technologically advanced continent of Atlantis in the area of the world which is today the Atlantic Ocean, but also one called Mu in the Pacific Ocean area with whom the Atlanteans co-existed until inevitable human conflicts caused by greed and the desire to rule interfered.
... basically it goes on to say that Mu and Atlantis went to war and destroyed each other.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/ssm/ssm12.htm

a mayan book.. i'm dubious.. i apologise people but i feel the need to cut and paste this here as i don't want this info lost.


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CHAPTER IX
RELIGION IN EGYPT AND INDIA
THE EGYPTIAN PANTHEON.--Many of our religious conceptions today are strong reflections of the old Egyptian. One might say indeed that our present day religion came to us from Egypt via the Jews. For that reason I have decided to give in this book an Egyptian Pantheon, which I have made up from the Egyptian Book of the Dead.

In many cases, it will be seen that the symbol of a certain belief or conception is represented by more than one god shown in the Pantheon. Under different guises and different names they, however, symbolize but a single conception. This comes from the scrambling of two sets of symbols when Upper and Lower Egypt were joined and became one kingdom.

I am giving 24 figures placing them 6 on a page for easy reference. There are many others which I have not included; these are the principal ones only. I can only give an outline description, space will not permit of more. If more data is required about them, it will be found in many books written about Egypt.

Amen was the great god at Thebes, and was addressed as the "King of the gods." The Latinized form of the name is Ammon. The Romans identified him with Jupiter. The Greeks called him Zeus. He is also called "the hidden god." Before the 18th Dynasty he was worshipped at Thebes as Amen simply; but was afterwards merged into Amen Ra: "the hidden Sun." His color was a light blue.

Kneph was called "the moulder." He was known by the Greeks as Knonphis. Kneph is one of the oldest of the Egyptian gods and was especially worshipped in Nubia and Philae. His headdress is a ram's head surmounted with a solar disk and uraeus. Kneph is spoken of as "the soul of the Universe" and "The Creator." His color was bright green. Kneph's female consort was Sati.

Sati was the female consort of Kneph, and was looked upon as the Egyptian Juno. Her principal seat of worship was Elephantine, and throughout Nubia and Ethiopia. Her headdress was the Crown of Upper Egypt with a pair of cow's horns extending from it. Sati's color was a warm red human flesh color. I think that there can be no question but what Kneph and Sati were intended to symbolize the two principles of the Creator: male and female.

Khem was one of the deified attributes of the Creator. His special seat of worship was Chemmo (Panopolis). He was worshipped at Thebes and to some extent throughout Egypt. His headdress consisted of two straight feathers. He was generally colored blue.

"Ptah the Opener" was the oldest of the Egyptian gods. His principal seat of worship was at Memphis. Ptah was the symbol of the Creative power of the Deity. The Egyptians called him "the divine artificer." One of his symbols was the two-sided square.  He had many titles; one was: "The Father of beginnings." The Greeks considered Ptah the same as their Vulcan His name, peculiar to Memphis, was Ptah-Sokar-Osiris. The regular Egyptian name, however, was Ptah-Sekar-Usar. His color was blue. Ptah was without doubt the symbol of the Four Great Primary Forces--The Sacred Four.

Neith was the Egyptian Minerva, and was the goddess of the lower heavens. She is generally pictured holding up the heavens on her head. Neith was the special goddess at Sais. A corresponding symbol--a god upholding the heavens on his head-is found in the Maya of Yucatan. His color was blue. Neith was the symbol of The Four Great Pillars that upheld the Universe--The Sacred Four.

Maut called "the Mother" was the consort of Amen Ra at Thebes, and in this capacity represented the Mother of all: thus in Amen Ra and Maut we find another symbolization of the dual principle of the Creator. Maut was especially worshipped at Thebes in connection with Amen and at Chons with Amen Ra. She was also honored throughout Nubia and Ethiopia. Her color was warm, flesh colored red.

Ra was the name of the Sun as the monotheistic symbol of The Creator--monotheistic or collective. In the "Litany of Ra" he is called "the Supreme Power," "the only one," et cetera. To the initiated, he symbolized the power of the Deity; but to the populace he was stated to be a created god, the Son of Ptah and Neith. More errors have been made about this symbol by historians than any other symbol used by the ancients. His color was red.

Khepra. Although this symbol is found in the Egyptian Pantheon, it did not originate in Egypt but in the Motherland and was brought to Upper Egypt by the Nagas from the Motherland via Burma and India. The symbol is the Scarab beetle, which is placed over the head of a human figure in the Egyptian symbol. The Scarab symbolizes creative energy.

From the Papyrus Ani., King's Companion to Seti II: "Among the Egyptians, the Scarabeaus Beetle is no god, but one of the emblems of the Creator, because it rolls a ball of mud between its feet and sets therein its eggs to hatch. As the Creator rolls the world around, and causes it to produce life."

The foregoing passage is one that should be especially studied by students of the ancient past: for it shows us that the Egyptians up to the time of Seti 2nd understood the ancients' sciences and the workings of the Great Cosmic Forces, both of which are unknown to the scientists of today.

Before our sciences can advance to any perceptible degree the present grotesque myths, the orthodox scientific teachings, must be abandoned and a study of the Four Great Primeval Forces made. On them the true sciences must be built up--sciences which teach us what life is and how it originates, the workings of the Four Great Forces throughout the Universe, with their origin, et cetera.

The vignette shows an engraving which I found in a very ancient Maya carving in India. It is thousands of years older than the first occupation of Egypt by man. The engraving is symbolical, as it shows the Creator symbolized by a Scarab, which is placed within rays of glory and rests on the symbol of Mu. Kneeling in adoration on either side of the rays is first man shown by his symbol Kėė the deer.

This vignette is taken from the Egyptian sacred book, the Book of the Dead. It symbolizes man in adoration of the Scarab Beetle as the symbol of the Creator. The Egyptian god Khepra undoubtedly comes out of the Nagas--Kėė

Atum or Turn was the god of the setting Sun: otherwise Amenti--the Sun below the horizon.

Shu was the firstborn of Ra and Hathor and brother of Tefnut. Shu was looked upon as a symbol of the Celestial Forces. His color was generally black.

Mentu was one of the deified attributes of the Sun and often bears the name Mentu-Ra. He was merely a phase of Ra who with Atum symbolized the rising and the setting Sun. Mentu was the special protector of Egypt.

Osiris was one of the oldest of the Egyptian gods. Later in this chapter I shall give the history of Osiris and show who he was. In the text of the Book of the Dead it is stated that he was the son of Seb and Nut.

Hathor was simply another name for Isis and is represented with the attributes of Isis. She was sometimes called Isis Hathor. Hathor personified Nature with all that was true and beautiful in it--the female principle of the Creator.

Isis is the goddess of the triad--Osiris, Isis and Horus. In the triad she was the wife of Osiris.

Horus was the son of Osiris and Isis and symbolized the Sun.

Seb was the father of Osiris and Isis and was called "the father of gods." Tefnut was his consort. In Seb and Tefnut again we find the dual principles of the Creator symbolized.

Khons was worshipped at Thebes, and, with Amen and Maut, formed the Theban triad. Khons symbolized the moon; he wears the disk and crescent moon.

Thoth was the god of writing, learning, and medicine. It was he who composed the early and most important portions of the Book of the Dead. Thoth is supposed to be the Egyptian Hermes.

Nephthys was the sister of Isis and Osiris and consort of Set.

Anubis was the god of embalming and embalmed his father Osiris.

Tefnut was the goddess of the rain and dew. She held a conspicuous place among the contemporary deities of Thebes.

Ma or Maat was the goddess of truth. She represents the truth and justice of the Supreme God.

Nu or Nut. Nut is the feminine form of Nu. Nu was the father, Nut the mother--the life givers.

Bast was the wife of Ptah and with their son Tum or Atum formed the great triad of Memphis.

Set was the son of Nut and brother of Osiris. According to the myth he murdered Osiris.

Anuka was the third member of the triad of Thebaid, composed of Khnum (Kneph), Sati and Anuka.

OSIRIS.--Osiris was one of the oldest of the Egyptian gods. His worship was universal throughout Egypt at all times. Osiris was the representative of all that was good.

The myths in Egypt about Osiris are bewildering. They claim that Osiris was once the monarch of Upper and Lower Egypt. It is claimed that Osiris was buried at Philae--other towns claim his remains. According to all these myths, Osiris must have lived since the union of Upper and Lower Egypt was accomplished under Menes about 5,000 B. C.

Against this we find that Thoth, the founder of the Lower Egyptians taught at Sais the Osirian Religion and this was 14,000 B. C. There were no kings of Egypt for an immensely long period after Thoth's time. Egypt was a sub-colony of the Motherland under direct control of the colonial empire--Atlantis.

Now let us see who Osiris actually was and the time when he lived. In two Himalayan monasteries--one in India, the other in Tibet--there are two Naacal tablets belonging to the Sacred Inspired Writings of the Motherland: they are identically the same, word for word, were copied from the originals in the Motherland and brought to the continent of Asia by Naacal missionaries. They belong to the historical section of the Sacred Books. They relate:

"Osiris, when entering manhood, left the home of his birth, Atlantis, and came to the motherland where he entered one of the Naacal colleges. Here he studied the religion and Cosmic Sciences of the Motherland. When he passed his degree of Master and adept, he returned to his own country, Atlantis. There he devoted his life to the teachings of the people, the first religion of man, and to weeding out and eliminating extravagances, inventions and misconceptions that had crept into the religion of Atlantis under a rank priesthood."

Osiris became the Hieratic Head of Religion in Atlantis which office he held during a long life. The people loved and worshipped him for his gentleness, goodness and kindness. They wished to dethrone Ouranos the King and place Osiris on the throne. This Osiris would not allow to be spoken of and so condemned the idea that it was abandoned.

He was murdered by a brother on account of jealousy--this was about 20,000 B. C. His name was so revered, and he so beloved, that at his death he was deified, and as a lasting monument to his name religion was called after him, viz., "The Osirian religion," just as today we have the Christian religion. I could not find the name of the brother who murdered him, so the probability is the Egyptians invented the name. Nor do I find anything about Isis and Nephthys, but it is mentioned that he had a son, who became the Hieratic Head of Atlantis at the death of his father. I do not, however, find his name.

Osiris and Christ taught identically the same religion. Some of their preachings are word for word, line for line, and sentence for sentence the same. Both learned from the same book--the Sacred Inspired Writings of the Motherland.

THE RELIGION OF EGYPT.--The first we know about the religion of Egypt is where an ancient record states that about 16,000 years ago Thoth, the son of an Atlantian Priest, planted the Egyptian colony at the mouth of the Nile, and at Saïs on the banks of the Nile built a temple and taught the Osirian religion.

The Osirian religion as I have previously shown was the religion of Mu after Osiris had cleansed it of all the extravagances that had crept into it in Atlantis, 22,000 years ago, the religion being then called after him the Osirian religion. When he died his son became the hieratical head and was supposed to be called Horus, but whether Horus was his actual name or a title I cannot say, but a Horus was always the hieratical head of the Osirian religion down to the time of Menes or about S,000 B. C. Thus it is shown that the religion of Egypt commenced with that of the Motherland as taught in the Sacred Inspired Writings.

From the time of Thoth down to the time of Menes, the Egyptian colony was ruled by the church, under the head of a Horus. The last Horus is recorded when Menes took the throne.

Manetho, the Egyptian priest historian, says that during the 11th Dynasty the priesthood began to teach the people to worship the Sacred Symbols instead of the Deity Himself as heretofore. This was the first step to the debauchery of the Egyptian religion which reached its peak during the 18th Dynasty and ended in every conceivable extravagance coupled with idolatry. The advent of Mohammedanism wiped out the old religion of Egypt, although the Christian religion had made a little headway owing to a people called the Copts.

We must now go back some few hundred years to the time when the Israelites were the slaves of the Egyptians. A Master rose up among them--Moses. Who was Moses? And how did he form a religion? Who he was is a question; but he was the most proficient Master of his time, and, at one time, was the High Priest of the temple at Sinai, which then was an Osirian temple. Whatever Moses was, it is known that his wife was an Israelite and that he threw in his lot with the Israelites in all their troubles and adversities contingent with slavery. They elected him their head. He saw the Osirian or the Inspired Religion being debased by idolatry and was determined to save his people from it, so he modified the ancient Osirian religion to suit the then existing surroundings and conditions. The symbols of the attributes of the Deity, he discarded almost entirely, retaining only a few which could not very well be worshipped. He made the worship of one Lord God only--the Deity.

Many of the teachings in the Osirian religion were in the form of questions. These he condensed and put into the form of commands. As for example: Osirian--Have you honored and do you honor your father and mother, et cetera. Moses--Honor your father and your mother, et cetera. There were forty-two questions in the Osirian. Moses turned them into ten commands.

Many readers of the Bible have been nonplussed when they come across the passage where Moses makes a serpent for the people to look upon in the Wilderness. Some claim that it was a touch of idolatry. It was nothing of the kind. Circumstances warranted him in returning to symbolism for the occasion. The symbol--the Serpent--was to concentrate their thoughts on God as the Creator and the Giver of All Good Things.

One of the ceremonies among the Jews was a burnt sacrifice. The Bible tells us that the sons of the first man, Adam, offered up burnt sacrifices. Yet among ancient records we find that 60,000,000 of people lost their lives at one time in the same land before sacrifices were commenced.

I never came across the word sacrifice or its equivalent in any of the writings of the First Civilization. The first time I saw the word was in an old Maya book about 5,000 or 6,000 years old in which it says: "And during the night Mu was sacrificed." In the writings of the First Civilization offerings only are mentioned; these offerings consisted generally of fruit, flowers and products of the fields and gardens. These were taken to the temple and placed on an altar specially provided for the ceremony. On the front of this altar were inscribed the Tau and underneath each arm was a double triangle that reads: "Place thine offering upon this altar."

After Mu went down with her 60,000,000 of souls, all the surviving people of the world commemorated her memory in one way or another, some by literature, some by edifices and others by fire in some form. The Quiche Mayas had a fiery house in their religious ceremonies; the Egyptians a fiery tank in theirs; and without doubt burnt sacrifices in the beginning was the form the Semites chose. In later years the Jews applied a theology to the ceremony. I wonder if there is a single Jew living today who knows the origin of their burnt sacrifices. I have never yet found one. The Phoenicians, another Semitic race, adopted idolatry and fell so low as to degrade themselves by offering human beings for sacrifice.

Was Moses an Israelite? An Egyptian record would lead one to believe that he was not a pure Israelite. The record I refer to says: "Moses was the son of an Egyptian Princess who afterwards became the great Queen Hatshepsut." Not a word is said about the bull-rushes.

As an example of the gross extravagances in symbols and teachings of the Egyptian priesthood I shall take the triad--Osiris, Isis and Horus. Let us see who they were and what was taught from them.

Osiris was a man who lived on earth and about whom there are many Egyptian myths. There is also a short authentic history about him, showing that he was a great Master and lived about 22,000 years ago. Isis was the symbol of the Creator's female attribute. From this union a son was born called Horus. Isis had a sister called Nephthys and a brother called Set. So that the female attribute of the Creator had three members--two females and one male--Isis, Nephthys and Set.

In plain unadorned language the foregoing says: An earthly man Osiris marries a spirit a female attribute of the Creator Isis and they have a son. But Isis was only one forming the female attribute of the Creator. The writings of the Motherland say the Creator was Lahun, two in one, not four in one.

Can anything more grotesque or atrocious than the foregoing be imagined? Yet this seems to be the theology and teachings of the Egyptian priesthood for a long period in their history--thousands of years. Is it any wonder that they were thrown into the discard? Dozen of other examples could be quoted, but I think this one all sufficient to show the abuses engrafted into their religion.

During the early part of the history of religion in Egypt, such grossness does not appear. As soon as we know anything about her religion we find its theology very complicated and, without question, this complicated theology was the parent of the diabolical abuses which crept into religion later on.

In the early Egyptian religion I find symbolizations ran somewhat parallel with that of the Polynesians. For instance, the marriage of gods. There is, however, this difference. The result of the marriage of Egyptian gods with other gods was only further to complicate theology. With the Polynesians the marriage of gods resulted in phenomena, such as light, sound, et cetera, which is correct, being the workings of the Cosmic Forces. I shall now give some examples both Egyptian and Polynesian.

The Polynesians believe that all that has been created came from the marriage of gods. The first four gods were the Four Great Primary Forces--a name given them during the earth's First Great Civilization. The Polynesians say: "In the beginning there was no light, life or sound in the world. A boundless night called Po enveloped everything, over which Tanaoa (darkness) and Mutu-Hei (silence) reigned supreme. Then the god of light separated from Tanaoa (darkness), fought him and drove him away, and confined him to the night. Then the god Ono (sound) was evolved from Atea (light) and banished silence. From all this struggle was Atauana (dawn) born. Atea (light) married Atauana (dawn) and they created earth, animals and man."

Now let us have a little Egyptian Cosmogony:--

Seb and Tefnut: offspring, the gods: Osiris, Isis, Nephthys, and Set.

Ra and Hathor: offspring, the gods: Shu and Tefnut.

Osiris and Isis: offspring, the god: Horus.

There were also the marriages of the gods and goddesses:

Amen Ra and Maut.

Kneph and Sati.

Ptah and Bast.

Set and Nephthys.

I have shown what all these gods symbolized, in a short way, in the Pantheon.

THE ISRAELITES IN EGYPT.--While we are on the subject of the Israelites, let us follow them in their Exodus from Egypt.

When the Israelites made their exodus from Egypt, they left Goshen which is a part of the Nile Delta, and, according to Egyptian records (papyrus), they crossed the "Sea of Reeds" and passed into Asia. The Sea of Reeds or rushes is situated at one of the mouths of the Nile. The water is very shallow and most of it can be waded without danger. When they arrived at the Sea of Reeds a submarine earthquake occurred in the Mediterranean Sea off the mouth of the Nile--probably on the gas belt which runs down from Crete and extends under Africa a short distance from the Nile Delta. This quake first drew off the water, leaving the Sea of Reeds dry--the Israelites passed over, the Egyptian army followed. During its passage the returning cataclysmic wave rolled in over the Sea of Reeds overwhelming the Egyptians. A mistranslation evidently occurs in the Bible. The Sea of Reeds was mistaken for the Red Sea. The Red Sea at the point where it is stated the Israelites crossed lies 200 miles from Goshen. The Sea of Reeds joined Goshen. To have crossed the Red Sea, the Israelites would have had to pass through 200 miles of enemy country, with an army in close pursuit, which means that they would have been overtaken and slain.

Pillars: The Israelites when in bondage in Egypt erected two pillars of brick at the entrance of their temples. In the inner part of these temples was the Holy of Holies where only the high priest might enter.

The Hebrews: The word "hebrew" comes from ebber meaning further back. Apparently, the Jews descended from four groups. Two of the tribes entered Palestine about 1375-1350 B. C. Later ten tribes joined them. These came from Egypt about 1200 B. C. or from 150 to 175 years later than the two tribes.

About 973 B. C. the tribes separated, the two seceded and appointed Jeraboam their king. Reaboam was at the time the king of the ten tribes.

Years later, the Assyrians attacked the ten tribes, and history states that the Assyrians destroyed them. Whether or not they were wholly destroyed they disappeared from history and are now spoken of as "the lost tribes."

It cannot be conceived that all were put to the sword. Unquestionably some were taken into captivity, and became assimilated with the Assyrians, especially as both were Semites.

The Assyrians in turn were overthrown by the Medes and Persians. What has become of the Assyrians? Among their descendants today, we should, no doubt, find some of the descendants of the ten tribes, but whether there would be any of them with pure Israelitish blood in them is very doubtful.

Still later, the Babylonians conquered the two remaining tribes. These still survive in our Jews of today. They are, however, scattered throughout the world among all nations.

These Jews hold the Feast of the Passover-- Why? They are the descendants of the two tribes who were not in Egypt. It was the ten lost tribes that were concerned in the Exodus and consequently the Passover.

Ezra and his associates wrote the Bible. What is known as the Book of Moses was written by them from documents obtained from the ten tribes who were in Egypt. The writings of Moses were partly in Naga and partly in Egyptian. Ezra obtained a slight knowledge of Naga in a Chaldi during the time he was in captivity; but neither Ezra nor any of his associates were Egyptian scholars. Is it any wonder they made so many errors in translating the Egyptian? Yet for all their errors their work was wonderful.

THE RELIGION OF INDIA.--The religion of very ancient India was that of the Motherland, brought there from Mu by the Naacals, a holy brotherhood. These men were taught religion and the Cosmic Sciences in the Motherland and when proficient were sent to the colonial empires to form colleges and perfect the local priesthoods, who in turn taught the people.

About 5,000 years ago, a race of Aryans began to drift down into India from the bleak valleys of the Hindu Koosh and adjoining mountains. Their first settlement was among the Nagas in the Saraswatte Valley. They were just hardy mountaineers, uncouth and uneducated. The Nagas, the most highly educated race in the world, took compassion on them, welcomed them into their schools and colleges, educated and advanced them. The Nagas received them too well for their own good, for, it called from the mountains nearly all who had multiplied there since the destruction of the great Uighur Empire of whom they were descendants. In time these Aryans dominated the whole of the Northern parts of India including their schools and colleges. Thinking they had learnt from the Naacals all there was to be learnt, they proceeded to drive their gentle, kindly instructors out of the country into the snowcapped mountains of the North.

After a period a sect was formed which was called Brahmins who took or usurped the charge of religious teachings. To attain their own ends, they introduced into religion perverted, incomprehensible theologies having all kinds of extravagance. This was the commencement of the downfall of India, which gained impetus as time went on. They introduced caste, commencing with three only. The caste system was extended, until at last the lowest caste was looked upon as untouchables, and for a touch of an untouchable, the receiver of a higher caste must go into a purification before he could be received again by his own people. The result of this was the final step which brought India down from the high position of leading the world in religion, arts and sciences. All that was left were a few embers where at one time was the bright light of a fire representing everything worth-while in life.

Then a great one sprang up among them, a Prince Guatama. He went back to the original teachings of the Sacred Writings. A vast throng followed his teachings and these became the Buddhists. Buddhism was carried throughout the Orient and was the universal religion.

It was only a question of time before a crafty priesthood began its negative work. The Buddhist priesthood of Northern India fell away from the gentle teacher, Guatama Buddha, and introduced all sorts of impossible theologies and theories for the sole purpose of enslaving the people. Only those in the South remained true to Guatama's actual teachings. Today the center of Buddhism is a little unostentatious temple at Kandy, in the Central Mountains of Ceylon. But with all these priestly traps and pitfalls common to religions today a spark of the truth has been again kindled and will soon shine throughout the world. Priesthoods and politicians never have seen nor ever will see "the writing on the wall" until those walls are falling on them and it becomes too late to escape. This has been the history of the world for the past 12,000 to 15,000 years. The people rise and crush the politicians and the Lord, in His own way, weeds his garden.

A U M is an inscription that has baffled scholars and scientists throughout the world, the Hindus included, for more than 2,300 years. Its import was lost when the Naacals were driven out of India by the Brahmins. Many scholars have attempted to fathom its meaning. None, however, arrived at any satisfactory conclusions; even the oldest are indefinite. Examples:

Manava dharma Sastra an ancient Hindu book. Book 2. Sloka 74. "In the beginning the Infinite only existed called Aditi. In this Infinite dwelt A U M whose name must precede all prayers and invocations."

Book of Manu, Sloka 77. "The monosyllable A U M means earth sky and heaven."

I. T. Wheeler, History of India, Vol. 2. Page 481 says:

"As regards the three letters A U M little can be gathered, excepting, that when brought together in the word A U M they are said by Manu to form a symbol of the Lord of created things--Brahma."

H. T. Colebrook in Asiatic Research says: "According to Noruka which is an ancient glossary of the Vedas the syllable A U M refers to every Deity.

"The Brahmins may reserve for their initiates an esoteric more ample than that given by Manu."

Noruka must have been reading a Brahminical version of the Vedas, which they stole from the Naacals, changed it to suit their own vile purposes and then foisted it on the world as their own writings.

The Original Vedas are a Naacal writing. The Naacals acknowledged One Deity only. Therefore, when Noruka mentions "every Deity" it shows without the possibility of contradiction that the Vedas which he refers to were altered and doctored and were not the original writings.

A U M conveys identically the same meaning and conception as the Mysterious Writing and Niven's Mexican tablet No. 2379. The difference between these and A U M is in the form of the writing. The Mysterious Writing and the Mexican tablet are in the old temple esoteric numeral writing. The Hindu A U M is written in alphabetical symbols which reads:

A--Ahau
Masculine-Father

U--
Feminine--Mother--She

M--Mehen
The engendered--The Son--Man

Note: U is here used as the feminine pronoun--She. M would have been used but it would have been con founded with the following M for Mehen.

The Brahmins formed a complicated theology around this conception, introducing a confusion absolutely incomprehensible to the people. It became a wonderful breeder of awe and superstition.

BIBLICAL SYMBOLISMS TAKEN LITERALLY. Tower of Babel: The Biblical Tower of Babel has been literally taken as a structure of stone or brick. From some old writings, I am brought to believe that it is a purely symbolical term: that "confusion of tongues" is the crux of the legend.

This legend was not written during the life of Mu. It came later, many years later, when ancient history was being recorded again and mankind once more widely populated the earth. It was therefore a product of the New Civilization.

Extravagances in theology and technology in the various temples, colleges and schools were the cause of the "Confusion of tongues" and the whole structure of Religion and Science was the Tower. Each temple had its own terms and words for its theology. Each college and school had its own particular words and terms for its technical teachings. So that no temple or college could understand the teachings of another. All in fact spoke different languages, no one understanding another. This made a "Tower of Confusion," "A Babel of Tongues": so that the name given to the condition was the only one which would adequately describe it.

Today we are running headlong into another such storm, another such confusion of tongues. We have over 100 sects of Christianity, yet there is only one God. Each sect declares all others are in error. They cannot comprehend each other's language. In Mu there were no sects, no theology. All teachings and wording were so simple that the most uncultivated mind could comprehend them. Mu's religious teachings lasted 200,000 years. When the present Tower of Babel comes crashing to the ground, a new structure will arise on its ruins. And that structure will be the simple religion of Mu.

The Flood: The Biblical legend of the Flood is not a myth nor is it symbolical. It has been wrongly described. Those who wrote the Biblical description simply failed to understand the writings of Moses.

There was a flood which destroyed about one half of the earth and all life thereon; but it was not due to a heavy rain. The Flood resulted from magnetic influences.

The Last Magnetic Cataclysm, the Biblical Flood and the Geological Myth, the Glacial Period, are all one and the same thing.

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Do you hate kindness? Do you hate compasion? Do you hate nature..? :fishing: :treehug:

Or is it the attitude and mysery that Humanity created ..?
All the Greed and religious dogma that made God into something so the weak power hungry minds could manipulate the natural born :rollbaby: people into slaves..?

You fought with anger to survive the stupidity of little or no natural love and understanding in the world..
:money: Will not buy a loaf of bread .
Never be to vain not to use your common sense and make your way with the kind in heart to safer ground when the " :lookingoverglasses: Singers tell the tale" :band:
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ok Unregistered you have my attention.. i had hoped someone would comment on this dream since the meaning escapes me.

a request... please rephrase your response in a less cryptic way that i can easily understand... cryptology is not my strong point.

feel free to comment on my other posts (here in this thread) which i feel you may have also done in your response... i probably don't need to explain why i am so pissed of with the god through the tunnel of light, do i? but then you would have understood that its not life that has annoyed me so but death... but i have to say i care more about the consiousness than life.
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so this is a post regarding Mu, or a post directed at me?

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Do you hate kindness?

No... i think kindness is better than its opposite... its true i am unable to feel love anymore but you can blame god for that... and before you ask love is now impossible for me, something i never wanted to happen as love was a huge part of my being.

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Do you hate compasion?

No... its a good trait and i'd rather that than its opposite

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Do you hate nature..? 

hmm... No, but i have controlled nature by force... i do believe that nature can be cruel and evil but thats just the way it has to be in order for all parts to survive, food chains and all... but i see there is love in nature as well, at least felt by the animals.

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Or is it the attitude and mysery that Humanity created ..?

No... even with all the wars, bloodshed, violence, evil... i still see that there is good... i would never think of destroying the world because some participants have a rough time... just because i'm not having such a ball now, i remember the times when i did... when life was great.. i know that life is great for many others. its not through jealousy that i act. i believe that life is better than the afterlife.

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All the Greed and religious dogma that made God into something so the weak power hungry minds could manipulate the natural born  people into slaves..?

you think we are slaves now... no... we have a choice in life, if we don't want to follow a religion we don't, its personal choice... knowing what i know religion is not for me. though i do see the forces out to corrupt us in life through causing events in peoples lives (so called good and bad do this)... god has control of the incarnation system and sends people into lives he has a good idea what they will face... why do some people suffer tragedy and others not, is that unfair.. sure it is... is it completely the fault of a person when forces conspire against them, events in their life turn them in part bad... to a large extent its the events that shape us... all the talk of love when certain events in a persons life would make them stray from such a path... the loving people who don't love everything and all. just wait til you see the afterlife... and your likely taken over.

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You fought with anger to survive the stupidity of little or no natural love and understanding in the world..

yes i have fought with anger... i was a very loving person up til 2 years ago but i still caused some bad events... so your part of the love will solve everything crowd... good for you, but your wrong. if your not open to both love and hate and in between there are some things you just will not be able to change. good changes can come from bad events and vice versa.

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Will not buy a loaf of bread .

i don't understand what you are getting at.

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Never be to vain not to use your common sense and make your way with the kind in heart to safer ground when the "  Singers tell the tale"

i use my common sense a lot, i also try to stay as open as possible to information i receive... sure i will follow the kind of heart to their certain doom in the afterlife, why not. i need to know who these singers are.

i'm not sure what your saying about the kind of heart... that they have got it right and are on the right path just because they are kind? and what is your definition of kind... how about the religious people who preach love but also look forward to the death of their fellow man in the end times by the hand of their lord and hate demons and the like and enemies of god. if you mean those who are kind to all and everyone... sure thats an honourable state of being and had i not been given such power to change things and such knowledge about the evils of the light... i may have been that way, perhaps led a happy, happier existence... but i would have been trapped within the system and had changed nothing. do you fight the system or become part of it...

and i'm still not sure whether you know something about my dream, about the meaning of Mu or have just judged my self and acts.
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i actually care about the consiousness, i believe all consiousness beings nomatter how good or evil have a right to exist, a right to exist without suffering or torture or a second death where their consiousness is potentially killed or as good as.

it is not the death in life that kills the consiousness.

so you know... i would not want a world war and all the suffering that comes with that and paid the price fighting against that... i believe in all or nothing.

yes if you had not noticed i am a hypocrite, but i still recognise other hypocrite's (i'm not saying you are one, its a general statement).

though you may not be religious i bet you believe the tunnel of light and the light world will take you to a good and all loving god, its ok.. most people think that.
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FYI i have used love to change things in the past.

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i believe that you cannot change life for the better unless you first change the afterlife (in all its forms)... humans have the potential to change these things but they won't... the religious and spiritual teachings (and i include the lightworkers in this, who will go to heaven and find their god) cover most of humanity... its like a plague... and those who don't adhere to these things have no such beliefs and won't be changing anything either... sure there may be a few that know the truth but they are not of sufficient number, nor would they likely be believed by the masses. we are programmed that light = good and dark = evil. there is such a tight grip of control over this world.

it seems the demons know the truth but i would not want them to take control from god... things may well get worse... there needs to be a takeover and the best candidates are human consiousness to do so.

i have little faith in aliens coming to save us either... nor that any of them have our best interests in mind.

i'm not going to waste my time looking for a creator figure either (and no the god through the light, who is the god of the bible is not the creator) because if they were all loving they would never have allowed certain things to happen, especially not the crimes against the consiousness. do you really think the being that created all that is would not have the power to change things for the better and if they were good would have done so already... unless the creator is outside of all that is, like a chicken laying an egg, the egg being a completely new entity in its own space.. in which case we cannot know the creator.
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Unregistered, i hope you post again.. since i have been so honest with you.
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http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id23.html

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by Jason Colavito

The early history of Mesoamerican studies is characterized by a grave dispute over the origins of Mesoamerican civilization. In many ways, this dispute is an argument over two lost continents, Atlantis and Mu, and where their survivors may have settled. Proponents of the Atlantis hypothesis argued that survivors of that lost continent spread to Africa and to Central America, giving rise to advanced civilizations like Egypt and the Maya (Orser 2001), while followers of Mu claimed that refugees from the lost Pacific continent ventured to China and Central America, giving rise to advanced civilizations (Tompkins 1976). That Mesoamerican civilization began in situ is never contemplated.


etc.

http://www.soundofmu.no/2006/about-mu.html

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Ku- (Japanese) "Emptiness"
Similar to "mu" below.
"Just as 'mu' (nothingness) is beyond existence and
non-existence, we must be careful not to think that 'ku' (emptiness) is a description of a condition where something that should exist does not....

It is the emptiness of emptiness, it is the emptiness of the circumstances of any situation, and it is the emptiness of yourself. KU translates the Sanskrit "sunyata" meaning emptiness, void, fundamental insubstantiality. It refers to existence without enduring substance. Thus, though all phenomenal things exist they are empty of any enduring or inherent "self." In other words, all the existences in the cosmos exist, but their essence cannot be apprehended because it is emptiness. This emptiness is the Ultimate reality underlying all existences, thus "Ku" in Buddhism is the Invisible, a concept of God. When Bodhidharma, the first patriarch of Zen in China was asked by Emperor Wu (A.D. 502-549), about what was the ultimate and holiest principle of Buddhism, the sage replied, "Vast emptiness [ku], and nothing holy in it."

Sekkei Harada Roshi in The Essence of Zen comments....
'This thing' is empty. It has no substance, no self-nature, and therefore it is free to change according to circumstances and the situations it encounters. The constantly changing activity of 'this thing' is what is referred to as 'karma.'"


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Mu- (Japanese) Absolute nothing. In Chinese it is "wu". When Chao-chou (Joshu) was asked whether a dog has Buddha nature, [and according to Mahayana Buddhism all sentient beings have Buddha nature] he replied, "Wu!" (Japanese, "Mu!") -- No! In the book Questions to a Zen Master Taisen Deshimaru is asked What is mu? He answers: "It is zazen. Mu means "nothing" or "not" or "non," but it is not a negative idea. Mu is not relative to the fact of existing; it's nothing. It is very difficult to explain. What is mu? Nothing and everything....Mu does not exist. Mu exists, but without noumenon. A great koan. If you continue zazen you can understand it."


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Mu may be:
Mu (letter), a letter in the Greek alphabet. Mu is used as a symbol for:
The SI prefix micro
The arithmetic mean of a statistical population In physics,
The friction coefficient
The mobility coefficient
The permeability (electromagnetism) coefficient
The muon

Mu may also refer to:
Mu (Cthulhu mythos), a sunken continent in the Cthulhu mythos
Mu (negative), a Japanese word important in Zen koan practice
Mu (lost continent), a mythical continent in the Pacific Ocean
Mu (rocket), a Japanese rocket
Mu Dan, renowned modern Chinese poet and translator
Mu-metal, an alloy used for screening magnetic fields
Mu Online, an online role-playing game
Mu (unit of area), a Chinese unit of area


theres lots more interesting info about Mu on this site...

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Avalon, Hyperborea, Thule, Taprobane, Eden, Paradise, Emain Abalach, the Garden of the Golden Apples, the Garden of Idun etc. are all one and the same thing. Their connection with the "first fruits" is an allegoric reference to the fact that Atlantis.MU was indeed the very first site of human civilization, the same as the legendary Paradise or Garden of Eden.


http://homepages.hawaiian.net/larryw/html/lemuria.html

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A Short History of Lemuria 

The legend of Mu is found on islands all over the Pacific Ocean.  For thousands of years the Polynesians have handed down the story of a civilization in the Pacific that was motherland of mankind.

The name of Mu somehow sounds like an uninteresting contraction of a more exotic name.  In contrast, the word Lemuria invokes a picture of a land at the dawn of time, a land forgotten in our histories but not in our dreams.

The name Lemuria resulted from a Nineteenth Century controversy over Darwin's Origin of the Species.  Defenders of Darwin had trouble explaining how certain species became distributed over large areas.  Zoologists had a particularly difficult time explaining the distribution of the lemurs.  The lemur is a small primitive form of primate found in Africa, Madagascar, India, and the East Indian archipelago.  Some zoologists suggested a land mass in the Indian Ocean, between Madagascar and India, millions of years ago.  An English zoologist, Phillip L. Schlater, proposed the name Lemuria (LEMURia) for this former land of the LEMURS in the Indian Ocean.


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ok i'm getting desperate...

http://www.babynames.com/name/MU

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The meaning of the name Mu is Admired
The origin of the name Mu is Chinese


really desperate...

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/mu

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3. (philosophy) mu - /moo/ The correct answer to the classic trick question "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?". Assuming that you have no wife or you have never beaten your wife, the answer "yes" is wrong because it implies that you used to beat your wife and then stopped, but "no" is worse because it suggests that you have one and are still beating her. According to various Discordians and Douglas Hofstadter the correct answer is usually "mu", a Japanese word alleged to mean "Your question cannot be answered because it depends on incorrect assumptions".

Hackers tend to be sensitive to logical inadequacies in language, and many have adopted this suggestion with enthusiasm. The word "mu" is actually from Chinese, meaning "nothing"; it is used in mainstream Japanese in that sense, but native speakers do not recognise the Discordian question-denying use. It almost certainly derives from overgeneralisation of the answer in the following well-known Rinzei Zen teaching riddle:

A monk asked Joshu, "Does a dog have the Buddha nature?" Joshu retorted, "Mu!"

See also has the X nature, AI Koan.

[Douglas Hofstadter, "Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid"].
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i will add that the god of the bible in a letter from a preacher called me mephebast, must be my spiritual/soul name. i've never found anything regarding this apart from i think a place in palestine called meph?
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http://www.edgarcayce.org/AM/mu.html

according to this one article cayce sees Mu and Lenuria as one and the same... as do many other people on the web, but i don't know if thats true.
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Dream makes sense if the whole system crumbles due to the Great truth.. :sleuth:
Forget the Mumbo Jumbo :talktalk: , Cryptic not really just simple..
Not Judging..You use your common sense and reason.

Natural kind will be key, natural common sense..
Not about beliefs or righteous rhetoric as its all corrupt in most ways..All about the truth and actions not talk and roads paved with good intention.

Meek as In natural kind will inherit the earth...Maybe someone who is a jew or an athiest or hindu or some bushman in the Amazon...Attitude and actions defines the person..

Real Truth and proof will set the record strait...

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thank you for posting again / \

i understand now more of what you say... i realise this was your last post but it leaves me with yet more questions.

i still have no idea why i was called Mu.

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Dream makes sense if the whole system crumbles due to the Great truth.. 

in my eyes if the whole truth were to be known and believed by everyone then the religious systems would collapse on earth and i mean all of them... but the system in the spirit world / heaven (through the tunnel of light) would remain the same, unless those humans that went there managed to keep their consiousness (to fight)and in sufficient number overthrew the god there, who is the god of the bible. then there would be no more few ruling the many but the many ruling the many... they could then set changes in motion to address the problems of the afterlife in all its forms (not just in the spirit world / heaven but those in the in between world and if the hells exist (firey pit of hell & bottomless pit (abaddon is the ruler?)) then these changes could affect all in a positive way... and i am absolutely against killing the consiousness of any being, helping them to change their ways is a better form of action and giving them a safe place to live, not seperated... if you leave a person in a bad environment it will most likely turn them bad, one way or another. if you leave a spirit in an environment where there is little to do except meddle in human affairs then thats what they will do. there may be some fixed mechanisms that can't be changed, that are just made that way... why is life so much better than the after life... theres much more to do for a start. while there is still spiritual beings influencing the earth (good and bad alike) how can life change for the better. sure i agree the governments are bad news and should be overthrown and new ideals made, but not when those new ideals are chosen for us by other beings, spiritual or not, i include aliens amongst this list... humans have to work things out for themselves, something that should only be done based on the truth and all of it. if spirit beings want to help us earth people then fine but theres a line they cross almost all of the time. something i don't want to happen is to have governments collapse and then have nuclear war follow, even removing american government could cause iran to feel empowered and start a war with israel that could escalate etc.

to me the only great truth that would cause the earthly system to crumble is the truth about the afterlife. but then you may know of some other great truth? maybe the great truth to you is simply to be a loving / kind person.

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Forget the Mumbo Jumbo  , Cryptic not really just simple..

in my other dream about mumbo jumbo, i done some research... mumbo jumbo is a valid means of protecting oneself from harm using magic. if my dream told me anything its that team in the front of the train are influencing me... oh and me continuing to go against them could end in the deaths of my .........

cryptic to me, simple to you.. but then you already know the meaning. if it was so straight forward i would not have so many questions.

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i'm not sure why natural kind / the meak will be the key, other than some vague memory i have of religious text that states they will inherit the earth.. if thats the case god (and tbh i only see one god ever) would not let that happen without reason, the meak may be so but you have to wonder what their beliefs will be... by natural common sense and even natural kind are you talking about beings kind to nature, to planet earth... or people who are naturally kind, do you mean who are kind to all things and everyone... anyway, if common sense had all the answers a lot more people would have figured things out, common sense is often relative to the person.. take me for example, i know i have moved storms to where i want them.. and so common sense tells me i can do these things but to someone who does not believe in magic they would say that goes against common sense. so common sense is not really common and is unique to everyone... how will common sense solve the mysteries of the afterlife... the truth will have to come first and tbh their individual common sense would probably disregard it... unless there is proof but what proof could anyone give about the afterlife apart from another's point of view... unless they were taken there and viewed it themselves but then they would have to die first.

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Not about beliefs or righteous rhetoric as its all corrupt in most ways..All about the truth and actions not talk and roads paved with good intention.

ok you have me stumped with regard to what i just said above... yes religious beliefs and the ones who believe they are righteous are corrupt i agree... we need a system based on the whole truth rather than on a diety/s and their chosen beliefs for us.

ok i just looked at the clock and it said 10:44.

...i take it you mean not about religious/spiritual beliefs. other than that i agree we need to know the truth and have to act upon it...

humans are just not intuitive enough to find the truth for themselves.. maybe a very very very very small number are, but they don't know every truth... so any change in their belief system will come about by an individual or a group with a new way of thinking and then be accepted by the masses so there is great scope for them to follow a false belief... i don't believe there is going to be any proof about what happens in the afterlife... is it better for the earth people to live a happy, safe, loving, kind existence.. yes.. could the people as a whole one day decide to do so... yes, but outside influences will corrupt this idea and some humans will rebel against it turning others bad... will it last then... probably not, unless there is an iron grip over the peoples that will take out any who dare go against this new belief system... and in doing so will go against that very belief system... unless you had aliens who would perform this function but that just feels too sour for my liking.... and how will the all loving crowd take to a bad/evil member being killed to save their loving existence.. i think they will be all for it... and theres the hypocrisy and the i love people but not all and i love some things but not every thing... no matter how bad you think humans have it now we do still have freedom to a large extent.

so can you create a new world based on love and kindness without hurting someone... i don't think so... it will only take a few bad apples (if they are not removed) to cause events that would test others and ultimately turn some bad, if it gets out of hand then you could be faced with a situation where you wage war upon the bad people or face the extinction of your ways... and so you become like the so called righteous and lose your new faith. so if no new system is going to last why bother, if in creating the new system so many have to die or suffer, for it all to go back to how it was and repeat... it seems the only long term answer to curing all humans of their bad behaviour is complete slavery and an iron rule... personally i value freedom far too much for that to happen... in fact freedom should be right beside the word truth.

some say there will always be good and bad, the two opposites... instead of trying to wipe one of those out should we not rather try to live with the other. to bring help and understanding rather than a sword.

what about this new world of love... do you expect their will be no rivalry and dispute over such things like the opposite sex? (among many other things... you can't rid the world of all its pitfalls).. love so strong it can be it can cause a person to kill.

what about the great constant.... change, nothing seems to stand still... things change.

at best you could eradicate evil of today but not tomorrow.

the meak will inherit the earth.................... for how long.

i'm not against positive change, just the methods by which it is brought about and the methods by which it is sustained.

and yes im a hypocryte... and no i don't claim i am the most loving person and know i am far far away from that (not just because i can no longer feel love)... i don't claim to love every being nor every thing so how could i be such.. i act because i feel i should.... i don't claim to be righteous.

you see the white horseman as causing the change you are looking for... this change was setup by the god of the bible, which if you follow revelations is part of the 7 seals being unleashed upon the world, much horrors.. sorry but i don't see that god can call himself loving.. whether you wanted to or not you are buying into that religion and that god. you think that god is just going to give up his throne and his rule after revelations is fulfilled.. because thats not what it says in the bible. you are basically agreeing that 1/2 or 2/3rds of the earths population needs to be destroyed in an armageddon event as per the bible (there will be a lot of empty vessels made at that time and not just people you would see as evil)... tbh i'm against this happening and i'm a hypocrite for saying that... to me its all or nothing... with the all giving us a slight chance of overthrowing god, its a huge risk but its a chance we currently do not have nor will we if god is allowed to play things out as per the bible.

saxon sees the end of the rebellion, where angels will come together in love.... but also sees of swords being handed out by his god that will split a person/spirit from its immortal body... does this god come with love or with a sword.

do you realise how many key truths are out there yet to be discovered and believed by the masses, i can think of quite a few... do you think the god of the bible stands for truth or hiding the truth.

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Maybe someone who is a jew or an athiest or hindu or some bushman in the Amazon...Attitude and actions defines the person..

you think god and other spiritual forces are just going to stop influencing the earthlings and stop teaching us, because i don't.... call it a new religion / belief system or whatever you want. attitude & actions, sure they do.. you think the bad people will just vanish?

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Real Truth and proof will set the record strait...

i long for the truth of everything to be known... but won't hold my breath.. and how will humans know the next new thing to be true as their intuition as a whole sucks... i doubt you will find proof on certain key things in life... there is so much that "they"/plural don't want us to know.

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a shame because i would have liked to delve into your beliefs and have a few other questions answered... maybe you know some truth that i don't... something that eludes me even with your prompting.
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ok i watched/listened to it again to see if theres anything i've missed... tbh it seems like an accurate portrayal of a part of the book of revelations... i wonder if you realise that god wants this event to happen, has planned and calculated this event. the part... "hear the trumpets, hear the vipers, 100 million angels singing..", if i'm not mistaken then this is what you referred to when you talked about when they begin to sing... it does not suprise me that the angels of heaven are for the events of revelations because their god wrote the book and planned the event.

i'm guessing that you see these angels as good, along with their god... tbh the most you can say is that he is better than his counterpart in the dark side... or is he... i'm not so sure lucifer is evil and i don't believe lucifer is satan... and satan tests men for god, read the book of job.

the bible is the god through the tunnel of light's teachings, the main god in heaven and the god who has all the angels there under his control... imo lucifer no live there any more.

as to why the god of the bible wants to kill 1/2 or 2/3rds of the population and unleash such terrors upon the world... if i were you i would concentrate real hard on finding this one truth, and don't necessarily believe the hype. is it really to bring peace on earth or something else. is it just to punish us... is it to stop the emerging free thinkers leaving his religions in droves... is it because he hates new agers.... or that he would better control the survivors.. thats for you to decide... but like i say, no peace lasts forever, 1000 years according to the bible (if you believe that), though it may come back... but then it could go again...

besides somethings up.. freestone has reported that there will be "no" more incarnations into life sometime soon?, that we will all live a spiritual only existence... i have to wonder what the real future of the earth and earthlings is... at least the homo sapiens.

aliens may have different souls/spirits not from our spirit world... i do not know.

as much as i do believe there to be truth in the bible i feel that just like any other prophecy it can be changed, but god and his team is a heavy weight to budge in order to do so.

i'm going by memory but didn't you post that its not too late for me to change, to become kind... sure i would do that if i wanted to be saved, which tbh is going to be the same old story of going to heaven through the light and having my consiousness taken over / possible death... in any case, playing no further part in that realm... and i'm not so sure god will be judging people based on kindness either... you may find that if you don't read a line from the bible every day you are damned, those poor children who can't yet read and those who are not yet baptised.. never mind. if i could be bothered i'd pick up a bible and find out the defination of a soon to be saved person. in any case do you think someone like myself is going to be saved... rather thrown into a bottomless pit i think.. i've gone against god in this life possibly more than anyone else... i was once seen in at least one dream (not by me), all dressed in black sitting down to play a giant game of chess with god, us sitting in chairs opposite each other on the board, i was sat in california and god was sat over missouri, yes a map of america was overlayed... anyway i lost in the end (though that was not seen in the dream), maybe not that game but overall i have, but i will still fight where i can. i was also the red horseman seen by a prophet of god running the other way, choosing not to cause war (before you ask, yes i had the power to)... a minor dent in gods plan there.

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tbh i think it was the day i decided not to cause an earthquake in california (among other things i done) and actually stop it from happening with magic, it was after that jesus was seen turning his back on a person a prophet Time said he thought was the red horseman (but he was interpreting anothers dream, he believed the person to be the same as he had seen in dreams that he knew to be the red horseman... the other dreamer said a few things that i had been trying to project to her and thus i know that person was me and that god saw me as the red horseman.. etc.. Time said the red horseman was called John Mark, john being who he was in the time of jesus and mark being his name in this life... etc etc

some evil force proved to me that they could cause a war if theyu wanted... they worked through me for a day causing within me an evil anger that was not my own, the second time they done this.. the first time some very bad things in the world happened... anyway within hours the lebanon war started... ok this is wrong.. from memory it was the event of the attack in israel and capture of some soldiers that was actually caused.. the war started later.

make of it what you will.

a letter from a preacher described basically how i had pissed god/jesus off and that i had gone to the dark side blah blah.. and that i should cause the awakenning with the power of connection in order to make up for my sins.

i once rigged the israeli election with magic to stop a world war happening, which if a certain party got in was prophesised to happen... anyway i was successful, the election went topsy turvy as to what was expected and according to an israeli poster on prophecies.us israelis were seeing numbers or/and signs that told of a messiah appearing soon and that if the israeli's/jews ever get this sure a messiah will turn up one will... but i only have one posters view that this is what happened.
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i don't believe any person is born bad or evil.. its the situstions and events they find themselves in during life and death that make them this way... along with knowledge they gain, beliefs they hold and choices they make... truley their environment has turned them this way... there are a number of things that help decide how a person will act including astrology, numerolgy and their upbringing etc etc...

i do believe that if a person has been evil in past lives that some of that could potentially surface but thats not so in everyone, probably far from that.

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I had a dream about god and i was in the dream... in the dream i said something like god knows me as (and i heard myself say "Mu", it came out of the blue, it was not something i would ever think of saying and i know nothing about Mu)...

basically god knows me as "Mu"

i forgot to add the name came to me as a word also so i know it was Mu and not something like Moo.



This might explain a few things about what you've been experiencing. The most common notion of Mu that I've seen, is the use of such as the short version of LeMuria, which was the ancient counterpart of Atlantis. LeMuria was the first Goddess ruled continent from which ultimately Atlantis, the God ruled continent, sprang. For a time they coexisted side by side, but ultimately Atlantis overcame Mu with their brash technology and pushy male in your face ways, typical of God rule.

Mu was the Female ruled intuitive version and Atlantis the Male ruled mind version and ultimately Atlantis rolled right over everything for which Mu once stood. And it's not that so much that Mu was "good" and Atlantis "bad", but rather both were unbalanced, both being initial reactions to the rebellion of old.

This dream suggests that you were part of Mu, and apparently one of its primary head guys if not THE head guy, probably of the spiritual part.



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the rest of the dream was like this... i dreamt of homeless people who were eating peoples leftovers from bins (thrown out food).. there was a traveller come by and he also ate from the bins as well, i guess it was a long journey and he needed to eat... in the dream i feared the homeless people would eat me (canibalism.. now in real life i have no problem with homeless people, i feel very sorry for them.. could even say i care about them).. in the dream i was in the situation where i needed to eat from the bins because i had no other food i guess but i was too proud to do so...




The "homeless" part is then pointing at the spiritual "homeless" orphaned by the overwhelming of what Mu stood for in a spiritual notion. The "bins" would be the "thrown out" remains of Mu spirituality and that you are "too proud" to eat of such supports the position you once had for those beliefs, grudgingly refusing to partake of the "garbage" of Atlantis.



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in the dream i knew that god would end it (the world) soon... i was thinking what will i do then.. came to me that god had been carrying me (as well as carrying many others).. that what would i do in the end, and i thought hate god... there was a part about the afterlife that i was thinking about that i can't remember.. i thought that the reason i thought god was carrying me was because i had been getting through life, being carried through life by my strong views against god and even my hatred of him, that if you took that away then what would be left in my life, would i have got this far etc.




The "carrying" notion would then point to "God", making up for the unbalanced notion of Mu, and as well taking you beyond the anger with the Atlantis group, the "god" which you hate. You had a similar dream in which this same guy carried you on the back of a motorcycle even though you were fighting with him prior to getting on the back.



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this is a possibility and i only thought of this later.. the homeless people may have been by the side of a railway track, but next to buildings near to it... i'm really not sure about a rsilway track being there.


The railway track is commonly seen in the transition from the age of rebellion that is now winding down and the coming age of "fixing" or "salvaging". Trains are large mass transit systems and denote the massive sorting and shifting coming to set up the coming age. So, most everyone will be put back with those of their families and those of their Hearts, where both sides of the rebellion became massively hyperfocused upon their particular gender, therefore engendering wide spread homosexuality as a general existence, something rather frustrating to our Creator due its baby stopping nature. The galaxies are BIG for a reason and ever expanding, because our Creator sees His/Her children filling such in the same manner. :angel1:
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saxon, thanks for adding your view to this... i wish more people would do so *hint*.

erm, i've taken on board what you say and i'm still not sure, i guess i was just looking for other opinions rather than a conclusion because woe would i know that anyway.

priests of Mu would come and go, they would naturally die... so its unlikely a person could be "the" priest of Mu, could they?... but that said sure i may have been an important one (maybe the high priest at some time in my life) and i may have followed that religion and maybe some of my beliefs today mirror that old religion, i don't know.

i never had a dream about a motorcycle... i do remember a dream you may be reffering to because i posted it here... your interpretation was that the two people were brothers, one was driving the motor cycle and the other did not want to get on, but i think they hugged/kissed... not sure where they were going but it may have been a mountain and/or there was a scene where people were making their way to somewhere.

regarding the railway track i had a dream about being on a tube train not long ago... but as i said i am unsure there was a railway track in the dream.

interesting about Mu being a goddess ruled religion and atlantis a male one.. not sure where you get that info from.

regarding the garbage, you could be right.. i ???... i did wonder whether the food in the dustbins was spiritual teachings passed on by others, but why they would be discarded....

my only anger in the dream was for god.

the prophet Time said out of the 4 horseman the red horseman had the spirit of god carrying him.

anyway.. thanks

this makes me think of sophia / wisdom talked of by the gnostics, i done some magic some times with her in mind. is god saying i stand with the goddess of lemuria... although i have read they have 3 gods.. etc, but i guess there may be no proof to back that up, could be speculation.

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not long before i was sent mentally ill i bought a book in the local shop, just about the only book they sold... they sold it because someone at their head office had written in... it was a book telling the tale of the last of the druids and that he would be the greatest of all.. blah blah... anyway in the book this druid kills himself, i never read it back then and still have not read it all... but when i was mentally ill i put a knife through my throat and lived... anyway there was a goddess that the druid had contact with and that he might one day join her in her world, take his place amongst her... in the end this goddess tells another you will be the greatest druid of all, greater than the previous one who the book was about.

in the book the druid was never destined to be king but he did take over command of the army to go fight other humans called something like repillians (it probably was not that word but it was alike to reptillians).
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i used to send love to sophia in deep meditation (a state i cannot get in anymore since my mental illness, i can't meditate any more... thats where my power was at its strongest in deep meditation, but i could do everything i could without needing to go into meditation)... any way.. one time i projected love to sophia in a powerful meditation and a star burst, i know i caused that one.. though i did not intend to.. well i spoke to my mother on the phone just after and she was unusually happy about something, as if she felt what i had done and that it was a positive thing (that was my impression at the time but i can't say it to be true)... her being so happy was very abnormal for her, she was never like that... theres no way she could have known what i just did, nor that i destroyed yet another star.

during my times of sending love to sophia and hoping/asking that she come and save us <to be continued> (yes i had been reading about sophia in the gnostic type bibles that are about and they have really good things to say about her, like she will not rest until she saves every one of us), <continued> from things like the horrible god of the bible who i had also been going against in big ways.. anyway a prophecy appeared, if i remember correctly it appeared on the prophecies.us main site, not the forum... it was apparently sophia who was channeled and she said a greater person than solomon walks the earth.

for info the gnostics do not see sophia as a goddess exactly, they see her as being from the plethora?, other higher world and that she created this world when she fell from that world... something like that.
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saxon, thanks for adding your view to this... i wish more people would do so *hint*.

erm, i've taken on board what you say and i'm still not sure, i guess i was just looking for other opinions rather than a conclusion because woe would i know that anyway.

priests of Mu would come and go, they would naturally die... so its unlikely a person could be "the" priest of Mu, could they?... but that said sure i may have been an important one (maybe the high priest at some time in my life) and i may have followed that religion and maybe some of my beliefs today mirror that old religion, i don't know.

i never had a dream about a motorcycle... i do remember a dream you may be reffering to because i posted it here... your interpretation was that the two people were brothers, one was driving the motor cycle and the other did not want to get on, but i think they hugged/kissed... not sure where they were going but it may have been a mountain and/or there was a scene where people were making their way to somewhere.

regarding the railway track i had a dream about being on a tube train not long ago... but as i said i am unsure there was a railway track in the dream.

interesting about Mu being a goddess ruled religion and atlantis a male one.. not sure where you get that info from.

regarding the garbage, you could be right.. i ???... i did wonder whether the food in the dustbins was spiritual teachings passed on by others, but why they would be discarded....

my only anger in the dream was for god.

the prophet Time said out of the 4 horseman the red horseman had the spirit of god carrying him.

anyway.. thanks

this makes me think of sophia / wisdom talked of by the gnostics, i done some magic some times with her in mind. is god saying i stand with the goddess of lemuria... although i have read they have 3 gods.. etc, but i guess there may be no proof to back that up, could be speculation.

Oh, I thought that was your dream.

You may have been THE priest of Mu during its final collapse which would ingrain those feelings of frustration and anger.

That kind of intense emotion tends to lock one tightly into this system.
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i started watching a film i bought recently, first watched it yesterday and today finished watching it although i have seen it before... film is Willow... in the film there is a male hero / swordsmen, white witch the nemesis of an evil queen and there was a fairy queen in etheral form.. oh and the evil queens daughter who turns against the evil queen in the end.. i guess there was another male warrior / general on the side of good and an evil general.. but still...
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i remember there are a few books under the name conversations with god that seem to say god is female.

there was a prophecy years ago that stuck in my head, it said something like the lady has lost her chief soldier, that he turned away from her... i think she had some kind of kingdom.. at the time i felt it referred to a female god... not that it had anything to do with.

for the record i believe the god of the bible is male.

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Money Will not buy a loaf of bread .

i guess you mean in the end times when god ends the world and there is chaos everywhere on earth and the governments have fallen.... there will be famine, money will be worthless and you won't be able to buy food with it.

that what i was seeing in my dream was a place where the end times had already happened and god had already ended the world, but this is a vision of the future... there came a need for me to eat food from the bins else i would starve but i was too proud to do so.
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i remember there are a few books under the name conversations with god that seem to say god is female.

there was a prophecy years ago that stuck in my head, it said something like the lady has lost her chief soldier, that he turned away from her... i think she had some kind of kingdom.. at the time i felt it referred to a female god... not that it had anything to do with.

for the record i believe the god of the bible is male.

The "god" in the Bible is no God at all, he's just another one of us who's tricked those he once had care of to grovel at his feet and transfer their etheral power over to him so as to make him appear to be "greater" than those he once looked after.

And "God" is Female AND Male as shown in the Essene Book of Revelation I've got pinned in the spiritual section.

Now keep in mind my comments above are predicated on the varied translations of the Bible from the original Hebrew. The Hebrew itself paints a VERY differnent picture than that purposely contorted and bastardized by the Jewish Scribes and Pharisees/Rabbis. The very Hebrew itself shows our Real Creator as the Self Existent One who constantly RAILS on the "god" portrayed in the English nonsense.
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saxon... then you are basically saying that the god of the hebrew bible, as it is written in hebrew is the self existent one... you have elsewhere said? that the self existent one is the true god.

thus the god of the bible is your true god... something i have tried to say for a long time..

thus the god through the tunnel of light (on death), that my mother knows as the god of the bible is your god.

tbh i think if anyone know the true meaning of the jewish bible it will be the jewish people themselves who have an understanding of the multiple meanings of their words. unless you think that over the years someone was re-written the jewish language and the meanings of various words... but i don't believe that would have happened...
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lastly you are saying the hebrew bible is the channeled teachings of the true god... so i don't see how you can call the bible the work of lucifer or some other god, maybe the translation is wrong in parts but the actual bible itself with words in hebrew is not wrong, nor a work of lucifer.

please pin this thread :) ... yes i'm joking.
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bad translation or not, hebrew reader or english reader... it does not change the fact that they are worshipping the same god... one you now call the self existent one / true god.

thus people haven't been worshipping lucifer as you think they have been.
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and the muslim people, some who still read the language that the koran is written in will also be reading the true teachings of this same god.. of the bible... they revere mary slightly and also see jesus as a prophet.

yes note... they believe jesus really existed, and believing he didn't is only calling their god (thus your god) a liar.

there are probably other religions brought to us by this same god.

if you believe revelations to be true, then you should note that the author was a follower of jesus and believed he existed.

the biblical accounts of jesus are also true in the fact that jesus really existed... whichever way you translate the original new testament hebrew texts... they were about jesus.

and yes jesus was on the side of the god of the bible during life and must have been after his so called death as well, although he was taken up rather than actually dying.

there are lots of things i could add now that i realise your true god is the same god of the bible...

you believe this god is the creator... not according to my mother... and i have to wonder exactly who my mother is (yes i know she was the virgin mary but who else... ) seeing how this god saw her important enough to bring his so called son into this earth as her son as well... someone very important according to your true god.

and yes i read that you believed isis was the female counterpart of the creator god... but as i highlighted in a text from the internet, isis if anything was the daughter of the creator and his spouse... thus she was not the creator of anything, neither could her husband be who you claim to be the true god.. and thats going by the egyptian texts.

maybe isis will take the thrown but according to the egptian texts there are those in a higher position by birth than her.

and i would be very dubious about using any texts to decide who was the original god / goddess and creator as the information you will likely find in religious texts will possibly be written by those in control of the afterlife or at least have the most control and control over the angels and control over every person's one spirit guide that they are assigned... who have the potential to say whatever they want to.
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so if the god of the bible is your true god and jesus was his chosen son and actually existed... then neither can be the lucifer that you talk about and should not be called such.

which leads me to this... who then is lucifer and/or the opposition to the god of the bible / your true god.... and where does this lucifer reside... and who is satan... good luck in your search.
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i posted this dream on earthboppin.net..

http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/51130.html


i've had one reply but it was not posted in the Mu thread...

http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/51132.html

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Date: September 16, 2008 at 19:11:01
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Ok, are you reading my mind?

I've recently remembered more parts to dreams I had after the Northridge earthquake in 94 about what I believed to be a lost civilization, I thought Atlantis, but maybe Mu?

Specifically, the scenes involved observing a council (of only men; records (files) being recovered but scattered as in an earthquake; looking into a book on a pedestal; being in a golden city more than once; floating down a river on a boat that led to a delta and the colors of the giraffes, blue birds, rainbow sky, everything was so beautiful; being in a large library with books stored on industrial looking shelving up to a very high; maybe 40 foot, ceiling and sitting on the floor by myself looking in a large book.

The second time I was in the golden city it was covered in clear, pure water and at first I saw a line of people in a building but later no one was there. The light was golden. There were pillars or arches.

The condor is also synchronistic as Thoth and I have both had turkey vultures in our backyards this last week within a day of each other. The name given in the article I looked up about Turkey Vultures as totem is "Golden Purifier."

As for your eye, 20 years ago I was reading "The Mists of Avalon" and I had a vision of a face and a sense that I was being "viewed". First it was masked, then not.

I think I had a dream "i am not so sure... it may be fiction" about hearing a whomp, being in the ocean, and everything was gone. But, it might be a scene from Mists of Avalon. Then again, it could be both.

Unfortunately, I can't find out because I can't find the book out here where I live, and the next closest town with a bookstore is 40 miles away.

Last, you said something about an earthquake in California. I was at the beach on Sunday and I heard in my own voice "if you stay here you will die." I'm really not too happy about that.

Is it possible that you're not Mu but from Mu?

Peace, light and love, Dawn


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saxon you've helped me put a lot of things into perspective and gain understanding now that i know who your true god is... it fits together very nicely with what i believe and gods plans for the end times and what not... i've learned a lot about this god (& jesus) over the years from interaction and various things.. and of course i now know that your god is the same god that takes over a person's consiousness when they die and thus is a worthless god in my book... and one that needs to be overthrown.. far from trying to save us or help us.. he chose his path long ago and has had long enough to change things in the afterlife for the better... don't hold your breath.

your probably better off being "taken up" in some way, avoiding death.. rather than going through the tunnel of light on death.

now i'm wondering whether the invasion force of aliens are on this same gods side.

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