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| Wapankitupe | Feb 11 2007, 04:04 AM Post #1 |
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It was the summer when I Black Elk was nine years old and our people were moving slowly towards the Rocky Mountains. We camped one evening in a valley beside a little creek just before it ran into the Greasy Grass and there was a man by the name of Man Hip who liked me and asked me to eat with him in his tepee. While I was eating, a voice came and said: "It is time; now they are calling you." The voice was so loud and clear that I believed it and I thought I would just go where it wanted me to go. So I got right up and started. As I came out of the tepee, both my thighs began to hurt me and suddenly it was like waking from a dream and there wasn't any voice. So I went back into the tepee, but I didn't want to eat. Man Hip looked at me in a strange way and asked me what was wrong. I told him that my legs were hurting me. The next morning the camp moved again and I was riding with some boys. We stopped to get a drink from a creek and when I got off my horse, my legs crumpled under me and I could not walk. So the boys helped me up and put me on my horse and when we camped again that evening, I was sick. The next day the camp moved on to where the different bands of our people were coming together and I rode in a pony drag, for I was very sick. Both my legs and both my arms were swollen badly and my face was all puffed up. When we had camped again, I was lying in our tepee and my mother and father were sitting beside me. I could see out through the opening and there two men were coming from the clouds, head first like arrows slanting down and I knew they were the same that I had seen before. Each now carried a long spear and from the points of these a jagged lightning flashed. They came clear down to the ground this time and stood a little way off and looked at me and said: "Hurry! Come! Your Grandfathers are calling you!" Then they turned and left the ground like arrows slanting upward from the bow. When I got up to follow, my legs did not hurt me any more and I was very light. I went outside the tepee, and yonder where the men with flaming spears were going, a little cloud was coming very fast. It came and stooped and took me and turned back to where it came from, flying fast. And when I looked down I could see my mother and my father yonder and I felt sorry to be leaving them. Then there was nothing but the air and the swiftness of the little cloud that bore me and those two men still leading up to where white clouds were piled like mountains on a wide blue plain and in them thunder beings lived and leaped and flashed. Now suddenly there was nothing but a world of cloud and we three were there alone in the middle of a great white plain with snowy hills and mountains staring at us and it was very still but there were whispers. Then the two men spoke together and they said "Behold him, the being with four legs" I looked and saw a bay horse standing there, and he began to speak: "Behold me" he said, "My life history you shall see." Then he wheeled about to where the sun goes down and said "Behold them, their history you shall know." I looked, and there were twelve black horses yonder all abreast with necklaces of buffalo hoofs and they were beautiful but I was frightened, because their manes were lightning and there was thunder in their nostrils. Then the bay horse wheeled to where the great white giant lives (the north) and said "Behold!" And yonder there were twelve white horses all abreast. Their manes were flowing like a blizzard wind and from their noses came a roaring and all about them white geese soared and circled. Then the bay wheeled round to where the sun shines continually (the east) and bade me look and there twelve sorrel horses, with necklaces of elk's teeth, stood abreast with eyes that glimmered like the day break star and manes of morning light. Then the bay wheeled once again to look upon the place where you are always facing (the south) and yonder stood twelve buckskins all abreast with horns upon their heads and manes that lived and grew like trees and grasses. And when I had seen all these, the bay horse said "Your Grandfathers are having a council. These shall take you, so have courage." Then all the horses went into formation, four abreast, the blacks, the whites, the sorrels, and the buckskins and stood behind the bay, who turned now to the west and neighed and yonder suddenly the sky was terrible with a storm of plunging horses in all colors that shook the world with thunder, neighing back. Now turning to the north the bay horse whinnied and yonder all the sky roared with a mighty wind of running horses in all colors, neighing back. And when he whinnied to the east, there too the sky was filled with glowing clouds of manes and tails of horses in all colors singing back. Then to the south he called and it was crowded with many colored, happy horses, nickering. Then the bay horse spoke to me again and said: "See how your horses all come dancing" I looked and there were horses, horses everywhere, a whole sky full of horses dancing round me. "Make haste!" the bay horse said and we walked together side by side, while the blacks, the whites, the sorrels and the buckskins followed, marching four by four. I looked about me once again and suddenly the dancing horses without number changed into animals of every kind and into all the fowls that are and these fled back to the four quarters of the world from where the horses came and vanished. Then as we walked, there was a heaped up cloud ahead that changed into a tepee and a rainbow was the open door of it and through the door I saw six old men sitting in a row. The two men with the spears now stood beside me, one on either hand and the horses took their places in their quarters, looking inward, four by four. And the oldest of the Grandfathers spoke with a kind voice and said "Come right in and do not fear." And as he spoke, all the horses of the four quarters neighed to cheer me. So I went in and stood before the six and they looked older than men can ever be, old like hills, like stars. The oldest spoke again: "Your Grandfathers all over the world are having a council and they have called you here to teach you." His voice was very kind, but I shook all over with fear now, for I knew that these were not old men, but the powers of the world. And the first was the power of the West; the second of the North, the third of the East, the fourth of the South, the fifth of the Sky and the sixth of the Earth. I knew this and was afraid, until the first Grandfather spoke again "Behold them yonder where the sun goes down, the thunder beings. You shall see and have from them my power and they shall take you to the high and lonely center of the earth that you may see even to the place where the sun continually shines, they shall take you there to understand." And as he spoke of understanding, I looked up and saw the rainbow leap with flames of many colors over me. Now there was a wooden cup in his hand and it was full of water and in the water was the sky. "Take this," he said. "It is the power to make live and it is yours." Now he had a bow in his hands. "Take this," he said. "It is the power to destroy and it is yours." Then he pointed to himself and said "Look close at him who is your spirit now, for you are his body and his name is Eagle Wing Stretches." And saying this, he got up very tall and started running toward where the sun goes down and suddenly he was a black horse that stopped and turned and looked at me and the horse was very poor and sick his ribs stood out. Then the second Grandfather, he of the North, arose with a herb of power in his hand and said "Take this and hurry." I took and held it toward the black horse yonder. He fattened and was happy and came prancing to his place again and was the first Grandfather sitting there. The second Grandfather, he of the North, spoke again: "Take courage, younger brother," he said; "on earth a nation you shall make live, for yours shall be the power of the white giant's wing, the cleansing wind." Then he got up very tall and started running toward the north and when he turned toward me, it was a white goose wheeling. I looked about me now and the horses in the west were thunders and the horses of the north were geese. And the second Grandfather sang two songs that were like this: They are appearing, may you behold, They are appearing, may you behold, The thunder nation is appearing, behold! They are appearing, may you behold, They are appearing, may you behold, The white geese nation is appearing, behold! And now it was the third Grandfather who spoke, he of where the sun shines continually. "Take courage, younger brother," he said, "for across the earth they shall take you!" Then he pointed to where the daybreak star was shining, and beneath the star two men were flying. "From them you shall have power," he said, "from them who have awakened all the beings of the earth with roots and legs and wings." And as he said this, he held in his hand a pipe which had a spotted eagle outstretched upon the stem and this eagle seemed alive, for it was poised there, fluttering and its eyes were looking at me. "With this pipe," the Grandfather said, "you shall walk upon the earth and whatever sickens there you shall make well." Then he pointed to a man who was bright red all over, the color of good and of plenty and as he pointed, the red man lay down and rolled and changed into a buffalo that got up and galloped toward the sorrel horses of the east and they too turned to buffalo, fat and many. And now the fourth Grandfather spoke, he of the place where you are always facing (the south), where comes the power to grow. "Younger brother," he said, "with the powers of the four quarters you shall walk, a relative. Behold, the living center of a nation I shall give you and with it many you shall save." And I saw that he was holding in his hand a bright red stick that was alive and as I looked it sprouted at the top and sent forth limbs and on the limbs many leaves came out and murmured and in the leaves the birds began to sing. And then for just a little while I thought I saw beneath it in the shade the circled villages of people and every living thing with roots or legs or wings, and all were happy. "It shall stand in the center of the nation's circle," said the Grandfather, "a cane to walk with and a people's heart and by your powers you shall make it blossom." Then when he had been still a little while to hear the birds sing, he spoke again "Behold the earth!" So I looked down and saw it lying yonder like a hoop of people's and in the center bloomed the holy stick that was a tree and where it stood there crossed two roads, a red one and a black. "From where the giant lives (the north) to where you always face (the south) the red road goes, the road of good," the Grandfather said, "and on it shall your nation walk. The black road goes from where the thunder beings live (the west) to where the sun continually shines (the east), a fearful road, a road of troubles and of war. On this also you shall walk and from it you shall have the power to destroy a people's foes. In four ascents you shall walk the earth with power." I think he meant that I should see four generations, counting me and now I am seeing the third. Then he rose very tall and started running toward the south and was an elk and as he stood among the buckskins yonder, they too were elks. Now the fifth Grandfather spoke, the oldest of them all, the Spirit of the Sky. "My boy," he said, "I have sent for you and you have come. My power you shall see" He stretched his arms and turned into a spotted eagle hovering. "Behold," he said, "all the wings of the air shall come to you and they and the winds and the stars shall be like relatives. You shall go across the earth with my power." Then the eagle soared above my head and fluttered there and suddenly the sky was full of friendly wings all coming toward me. Now I knew the sixth Grandfather was about to speak, he who was the Spirit of the Earth and I saw that he was very old, but more as men are old. His hair was long and white, his face was all in wrinkles and his eyes were deep and dim. I stared at him, for it seemed I knew him somehow and as I stared, he slowly changed, for he was growing backwards into youth and when he had become a boy, I knew that he was myself with all the years that would be mine at last. When he was old again, he said "My boy, have courage, for my power shall be yours and you shall need it, for your nation on the earth will have great troubles. Come." He rose and tottered out through the rainbow door, and as I followed I was riding on the bay horse who had talked to me at first and led me to that place. Then the bay horse stopped and faced the black horses of the west and a voice said "They have given you the cup of water to make live the greening day and also the bow and arrow to destroy." The bay neighed and the twelve black horses came and stood behind me, four abreast. The bay faced the sorrels of the east and I saw that they had morning stars upon their foreheads and they were very bright. And the voice said "They have given you the sacred pipe and the power that is peace and the good red day." The bay neighed and the twelve sorrels stood behind me, four abreast. My horse now faced the buckskins of the south and a voice said: "They have given you the sacred stick and your nation's hoop and the yellow day and in the center of the hoop you shall set the stick and make it grow into a shielding tree and bloom." The bay neighed, and the twelve buckskins came and stood behind me, four abreast. Then I knew that there was riders on all the horses there behind me and a voice said, "Now you shall walk the black road with these and as you walk, all the nations that have roots or legs or wings shall fear you." So I started, riding toward the east down the fearful road and behind me came the horsebacks four abreast, the blacks, whites, sorrels and the buckskins and far away above the fearful road the daybreak star was rising very dim. I looked below me where the earth was silent in a sick green light and saw the hills look up afraid and the grasses on the hills and all the animals and everywhere about me were the cries of frightened birds and sounds of fleeing wings. I was the chief of all the heavens riding there and when I looked behind me, all the twelve black horses reared and plunged and thundered and their manes and tails were whirling hail and their nostrils snorted lightning. And when I looked below again, I saw the slant hail falling and the long sharp rain and where we passed, the trees bowed low and all the hills were dim. Now the earth was bright again as we rode. I could see the hills and valleys and the creeks and rivers passing under. We came above a place where three streams made a big one, a source of mighty waters and something terrible was there. Flames were rising from the waters and in the flames a blue man lived. The dust was floating all about him in the air, the grass was short and withered, the trees were wilting, two-legged and four-legged beings lay there thin and panting and wings too weak to fly. Then the black horse riders shouted " Hoka hey " and charged down upon the blue man, but was driven back. And the white troop shouted, charging and was beaten, then the red troop and the yellow. And when each had failed, they all cried together: "Eagle Wing Stretches, hurry" And all the world was filled with voices of all kinds that cheered me, so I charged. I had the cup of water in one hand and in the other was the bow that turned into a spear as the bay and I swooped down and the spear's head was sharp lightning. It stabbed the blue man's heart and as it struck I could hear the thunder rolling and many voices that cried "Un-hee " (meaning I had killed). The flames died .... The trees and grasses were not withered any more and murmured happily together and every living being cried in gladness with whatever voice it had. Then the four troops of horsemen charged down and struck the dead body of the blue man, counting coup and suddenly it was only a harmless turtle. You see, I had been riding with the storm clouds and had come to earth as rain and it was drouth that I had killed with the power that the Six Grandfathers gave me. So we were riding on the earth now down along the river flowing full from the source of waters and soon I saw ahead the circled village of a people in the valley. And a Voice said: "Behold a nation, it is yours. Make haste, “ Eagle Wing Stretches “. I entered the village, riding with the four horse troops behind me, the blacks, the whites, the sorrels and the buckskins and the place was filled with moaning and with mourning for the dead. The wind was blowing from the south like fever and when I looked around I saw that in nearly every tepee the women and the children and the men lay dying with the dead. So I rode around the circle of the village, looking in upon the sick and dead and I felt like crying as I rode. But when I looked behind me, all the women and the children and the men were getting up and coming forth with happy faces. And a Voice said: "Behold, they have given you the center of the nation's hoop to make it live." So I rode to the center of the village, with the horse troops in their quarters round about me and there the people gathered. And the Voice said: "Give them now the flowering stick that they may flourish and the sacred pipe that they may know the power that is peace and the wing of the white giant that they may have endurance and face all winds with courage." So I took the bright red stick and at the center of the nation's hoop I thrust it in the earth. As it touched the earth it leaped mightily in my hand and was a waga chun (the rustling tree), very tall and full of leafy limbs and of all birds singing. And beneath it all the animals were mingling with the people like relatives and making happy cries. The women raised their tremolo of joy and the men shouted all together: "Here we shall raise our children and be as little chickens under the mother sheo's “wing.” Then I heard the white wind blowing gently through the tree and singing there and from the east the sacred pipe came flying on its eagle wings and stopped before me there beneath the tree, spreading deep peace around it. Then the daybreak star was rising and a Voice said: "It shall be a relative to them and who shall see it, shall see much more, for there comes wisdom and those who do not see it shall be dark." And all the people raised their faces to the east and the star's light fell upon them and all the dogs barked loudly and the horses whinnied. Then when the many little voices ceased, the great Voice said: "Behold the circle of the nation's hoop, for it is holy, being endless and thus all powers shall be one power in the people without end. Now they shall break camp and go forth upon the red road and your Grandfathers shall walk with them." So the people broke camp and took the good road with the white wing on their faces and the order of their going was like this: First, the black horse riders with the cup of water; and the white horse riders with the white wing and the sacred herb and the sorrel riders with the holy pipe and the buckskins with the flowering stick. And after these the little children and the youths and maidens followed in a band. Second, came the tribe's four chief's, and their band was all young men and women. Third, the nation's four advisers leading men and women neither young nor old. Fourth, the old men hobbling with their canes and looking to the earth. Fifth, old women hobbling with their canes and looking to the earth. Sixth, myself all alone upon the bay with the bow and arrows that the First Grandfather gave me. But I was not the last; for when I looked behind me there were ghosts of people like a trailing fog as far as I could see, grandfathers of grandfathers and grandmothers of grandmothers without number. And over these a great voice, the voice that was the South lived and I could feel it silent. And as we went the voice behind me said: "Behold a good nation walking in a sacred manner in a good land" Then I looked up and saw that there were four ascents ahead and these were generations I should know. Now we were on the first ascent and all the land was green. And as the long line climbed, all the old men and women raised their hands, palms forward, to the far sky yonder and began to croon a song together and the sky ahead was filled with clouds of baby faces. When we came to the end of the first ascent we camped in the sacred circle as before and in the center stood the holy tree and still the land about us was all green. Then we started on the second ascent, marching as before and still the land was green, but it was getting steeper. And as I looked ahead, the people changed into elks and buffalo and all four footed beings and even into fowls, all walking in a sacred manner on the good red road together. And I myself was a spotted eagle soaring over them. But just before we stopped to camp at the end of that ascent, all the marching animals grew restless and afraid that they were not what they had been and began sending forth voices of trouble, calling to their chiefs. And when they camped at the end of that ascent, I looked down and saw that leaves were falling from the holy tree. And the Voice said "Behold your nation, and remember what your Six Grandfathers gave you, from now on your people walk in difficulties. Then the people broke camp again and saw the black road before them towards where the sun goes down and black clouds coming yonder and they did not want to go but could not stay. And as they walked the third ascent, all the animals and fowls that were the people ran here and there, for each one seemed to have his own little vision that followed and his own rules and all over the universe I could hear the winds at war like wild beasts fighting. And when we reached the summit of the third ascent and camped, the nation's hoop was broken like a ring of smoke that spreads and scatters and the holy tree seemed dying and all its birds were gone. And when I looked ahead I saw that the fourth ascent would be terrible. Then when the people were getting ready to begin the fourth ascent, the Voice spoke like some one weeping and it said "Look there upon your nation." And when I looked down, the people were all changed back to human and they were thin, their faces sharp, for they were starving. Their ponies were only hide and bones and the holy tree was gone. And as I looked and wept, I saw that there stood on the north side of the starving camp a sacred man who was painted red all over his body and he held a spear as he walked into the center of the people and there he lay down and rolled. And when he got up, it was a fat buffalo standing there and where the buffalo stood a sacred herb sprang up right where the tree had been in the center of the nation's hoop. The herb grew and bore four blossoms on a single stem while I was looking a blue, a white, a scarlet and a yellow and the bright rays of these flashed to the heavens. I know now what this meant, that the buffalo were the gift of a good spirit and were our strength, but we should lose them and from the same good spirit we must find another strength. For the people all seemed better when the herb had grown and bloomed and the horses raised their tails and neighed and pranced around and I could see a light breeze going from the north among the people like a ghost and suddenly the flowering tree was there again at the center of the nation's hoop where the four rayed herb had blossomed. I was still the spotted eagle floating and I could see that I was already in the fourth ascent and the people were camping yonder at the top of the third long rise. It was dark and terrible about me, for all the winds of the world were fighting. It was like gun-fire and like whirling smoke and like women and children wailing and like horses screaming all over the world. I could see my people yonder running about, setting the smoke flap poles and fastening down their tepees against the wind, for the storm cloud was coming on them very fast and black and there were frightened swallows without number fleeing before the cloud. Then a song of power came to me and I sang it there in the midst of that terrible place where I was. It went like this: A good nation I will make live, this the nation above has said, and they have given me the power to make over. And when I had sung this, a Voice said "To the four quarters you shall run for help and nothing shall be strong before you. Now I was on my bay horse again, because the horse is of the earth and it was there my power would be used. And as I obeyed the voice and looked, there was a horse all skin and bones yonder in the west, a faded brownish black. And a voice there said "Take this and make him over and it was the four rayed herb that I was holding in my hand. So I rode above the poor horse in a circle and as I did this I could hear the people yonder calling for spirit power, "A-hey! a-hey! a-hey! a-hey! Then the poor horse neighed and rolled and got up and he was a big, shiny, black stallion with dapples all over him and his mane about him like a cloud. He was the chief of all the horses and when he snorted, it was a flash of lightning and his eyes were like the sunset star. He dashed to the west and neighed and the west was filled with a dust of hoofs and horses without number, shiny black, came plunging from the dust. Then he dashed toward the north and neighed and to the east and to the south and the dust clouds answered, giving forth their plunging horses without number whites, sorrels, buckskins, fat and shiny rejoicing in their fleetness and their strength. It was beautiful, but it was also terrible. Then they all stopped short, rearing, and were standing in a great hoop about their black chief at the center and were still. And as they stood, four virgins, more beautiful than women of the earth can be, came through the circle, dressed in scarlet, one from each of the four quarters and stood about the great black stallion in their places and one held the wooden cup of water and one the white wing and one the pipe and one the nation's hoop. All the universe was silent, listening and then the great black stallion raised his voice and sang. The song he sang was this My horses, prancing they are coming. My horses, neighing they are coming; Prancing, they are coming. All over the universe they come. They will dance, may you behold them, they will dance, may you behold them, they will dance, may you behold them, they will dance, may you behold them. A horse nation, they will dance may you behold them, a horse nation they will dance, may you behold them, a horse nation, they will dance, may you behold them, a horse nation, they will dance, may you behold them. His voice was not loud, but it went all over the universe and filled it. There was nothing that did not hear and it was more beautiful than anything can be. It was so beautiful that nothing anywhere could keep from dancing. The virgins danced and all the circled horses. The leaves on the trees, the grasses on the hills and in the valleys, the waters in the creeks and in the rivers and the lakes, the four legged and the two legged and the wings of the air. All danced together to the music of the stallion's song. And when I looked down upon my people yonder, the cloud passed over, blessing them with friendly rain and stood in the east with a flaming rainbow over it. Then all the horses went singing back to their places beyond the summit of the fourth ascent and all things sang along with them as they walked. And a voice said "All over the universe they have finished a day of happiness. And looking down I saw that the whole wide circle of the day was beautiful and green, with all fruits growing and all things kind and happy. Then a Voice said "Behold this day, for it is yours to make. Now you shall stand upon the center of the earth to see, for there they are taking you." I was still on my bay horse and once more I felt the riders of the west, the north, the east, the south, behind me in formation, as before and we were going east. I looked ahead and saw the mountains there with rocks and forests on them and from the mountains flashed all colors upward to the heavens. Then I was standing on the highest mountain of them all and round about beneath me was the whole hoop of the world. And while I stood there I saw more than I can tell and I understood more than I saw, for I was seeing in a sacred manner the shapes of all things in the spirit and the shape of all shapes as they must live together like one being. And I saw that the sacred hoop of my people was one of many hoops that made one circle, wide as daylight and as starlight and in the center grew one mighty flowering tree to shelter all the children of one mother and one father. And I saw that it was holy. Then as I stood there, two men were coming from the east, head first like arrows flying, and between them raised the daybreak star. They came and gave a herb to me and said "With this on earth you shall undertake anything and do it." It was the daybreak star herb, the herb of understanding and they told me to drop it on the earth. I saw it falling far and when it struck the earth it rooted and grew and flowered, four blossoms on one stem, a blue, a white, a scarlet, and a yellow and the rays from these streamed upward to the heavens so that all creatures saw it and in no place was there darkness. Then the voice said "Your Six Grandfathers now you go back to them." I had not noticed how I was dressed until now and I saw that I was painted red all over and my joints were painted black, with white stripes between the joints. My bay had lightning stripes all over him and his mane was cloud. And when I breathed, my breath was lightning. Now two men were leading me, head first like arrows slanting upward, the two that brought me from the earth. And as I followed on the bay, they turned into four flocks of geese that flew in circles, one above each quarter, sending a sacred voice as they flew "Br-r-r-p, br-r-r-p, br-r-r-p, br-r-r-p" Then I saw ahead the rainbow flaming above the tepee of the Six Grandfathers, built and roofed with cloud and sewed with thongs of lightning; and underneath it were all the wings of the air and under them the animals and men. All these were rejoicing and thunder was like happy laughter. As I rode in through the rainbow door, there were cheering voices from all over the universe and I saw the Six Grandfathers sitting in a row, with their arms held toward me and their hands, palms out and behind them in the cloud were faces thronging, without number, of the people yet to be. "He has triumphed" cried the six together, making thunder. And as I passed before them there, each gave again the gift that they had given me before. The cup of water and the bow and arrows, the power to make live and to destroy, the white wing of cleansing and the healing herb, the sacred pipe, the flowering stick. And each one spoke in turn from west to south, explaining what he gave as he had done before and as each one spoke he melted down into the earth and rose again and as each did this, I felt nearer to the earth. Then the oldest of them all said: "Grandson, all over the universe you have seen. Now you shall go back with power to the place from where you came and it shall happen yonder that hundreds shall be sacred, hundreds shall be flames!" I looked below and saw my people there and all were well and happy except one and he was lying like the dead and that one was myself. Then the oldest Grandfather sang and his song was like this, There is someone lying on earth in a sacred manner, there is someone on earth, He lies in a sacred manner; I have made him to walk. Now the tepee, built and roofed with cloud, began to sway back and forth as in a wind and the flaming rainbow door was growing dimmer. I could hear voices of all kinds crying from outside: "Eagle Wing Stretches is coming forth! Behold him". When I went through the door, the face of the day of earth was appearing with the day break star upon its forehead and the sun leaped up and looked upon me and I was going forth alone. And as I walked alone, I heard the sun singing as it arose and it sang like this. With visible face I am appearing, in a sacred manner I appear. For the greening earth pleasantness I make. The center of the nation's hoop I have made pleasant. With visible face, behold me! The four-legged and two-legged, I have made them to walk; The wings of the air, I have made them to fly. With visible face I appear. My day, I have made it holy." When the singing stopped, I was feeling lost and very lonely. Then a Voice above me said "Look back" It was a spotted eagle that was hovering over me and spoke. I looked and where the flaming rainbow tepee, built and roofed with cloud, had been, I saw only the tall rock mountain at the center of the world. I was all alone on a broad plain now with my feet upon the earth, alone but for the spotted eagle guarding me. I could see my people's village far ahead and I walked very fast, for I was homesick now. Then I saw my own tepee and inside I saw my mother and my father bending over a sick boy that was myself. And as I entered the tepee, some one was saying: "The boy is coming to, you had better give him some water." Then I was sitting up and I was sad because my mother and my father didn't seem to know I had been so far away. Black Elk ![]() |
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| Saxon | Mar 2 2007, 08:01 PM Post #2 |
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I think I need to transfer this analysis to here.
Black Elk enters the circled village seeing all there very ill, rides the circle, and all recover to then go out and see him. Black Elk rides to the center of the village plants the Tree of Life and.......
Then later....
Maybe it's just me, but the above makes me think the "daybreak star" is possibly the "Pahana" or "morning star", i.e. a "realative" to them. Notice the "two men" who are with the day-break-star? Sounds very similar. What do you think? ![]() -------------------------------------------------------------- I'm still mentally/spiritually crunching the pictures from Black Elks "Great vision" as its called. Some of the things that have occured to me to date. 1. The things being done by Black Elk in the vision do not represent what Black Elk is doing but rather what the first Grandfather of the "west" is or is going to do......Eagle Wing Stretches, who points to himself pointing out this fact by saying
In saying this, he is telling the hearer that from that point on Black Elk is nothing more than the "body" enacting the actions of another spirit, Eagle Wing Stretches. In essence, Black Elk is the messanger of this message, not the topic of the message, much like Ezekiel who was pointing a "ruddy man" in the distant future, not himself as so many erroneously believe. 2. The four bands of horses/elk skins are the long term effects of "Freedom" upon our Creator's children. Their description is giving a collective perspective of the current spirits of the universe in the four corners so to speak. 3. The four groups of horses/elk are two interlinked pairs the west-east pair and the north-south pair. The north-south pair are those of the "red" path while those on the "black" path are west-east. In that way, the vision is pointing out that the "north" is in essence those Non-rebellious of the Kingdom, those watching over their counterparts elsewhere in the "south" while those east and west are on the rebellious path of varied typified activities. 4. Notice that both the north and south group is neither adorned with the body parts of another while the east west groups have used the lives of others to their own gain, the west the intellectual path trodding of the buffalo and the east the consuming capacity of the elk. The north is noted with white horses and swans with swans mating for life. These are both synonymous upper non-rebellious Kindom symbols and notice that they are linked to those of the "south" who show the capacity of death (elk skins) Therefore this linked pair is showing the upright timeless proper Kingdom structure having the Tree of Life here, on Mother Earth, in the "south". 5. The "bay horse" is the same as the "brown turtle" of your dream, the link to Mother Earth while the Grandfathers are the associated Earth connectors to all in the four corners of the universe. 6. Eagle Wing Stretches is arriving again in this time frame at the end of this age as is depicted his "west" timeline. Only the west east, "black road" has time associated as north and south are timeless. Therefore, the "four ascents" have nothing to do with the four generations of Black Elk, but rather with the past of Eagle Wing Stretches who apparently has looked after the American Indian nation during the "four turnings" or "ascentions". That is the reason for the loss of the Tree of Life temporarily as is now the case due the overwhelming by evil as shown in the vision. The last "ascent" is now in progress. 7. The "daybreak star" is in effect and probably one in the same as the "Morning Star". The morning star upon the foreheads of the east horses is due their finally understanding something imprinted in their minds by the "daybreak star" as this is what ultimately brings the age of "Freedom" (rebellion) to and end, as denoted by the horses symbolic. 8. The "faded brownish black" horse is in effect the earth embodiement of the those rebellious who will be "salvaged" by those of the "daybreak star" whose efforts call home all the spirits of the Creator during the "millenium", the "one day". Some of the above will probably change as I tighen down some of the tent pegs to fully stretch the meme to match other similar accounts. IMO, the "daybreak star" is someone here, now that will be replacing the old rebellious "Morning Star" of the beginning. That makes him the same as Pahana of the Lakota and Akae of Enoch. This is not Jesus as many assume, but rather someone here now as is Eagle Wing Stretches someone else here now assisting him in the current spiritual war of Griz's dream. That's it for now.....
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| Saxon | Mar 3 2007, 01:01 PM Post #3 |
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I'm coming to the conclusion that Eagle Wing Stretches is synonymous with the morning star symbolic. One is the physical embodiment while the "star" is the result of the actions. Also, apparently the American Indian has some hand in healing Eagle Wing Stretches as is shown early on by Grandfather #1. In short, Black Elk's vision is not about Black Elk at all, but rather about this Eagle Wing Stretches/morning star. As well, I suspect this person is the same as the Pahana of the Lakota due the two "angels" who are always escorting him. That is the reason for the statement about being "related" to the American Indians in that the Pahana is actually a white guy with raven hair according to the prophecy if memory serves. ![]() Oh, and another thing, the Pahana was in fact a Watcher to the American Indians of the past long ago. Therefore his watching over them during the four ascentions or four turnings is also a match. Also, this Pahana is expected to return in much the same way as being said of Eagle Wing Stretches. I suspect he would also be someone born in the extreme west of this country as is indicated by Grandfather #1 running to the west to show his origin. Also, this would indicate an endtime timeline as well.
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| Wapankitupe | Mar 3 2007, 02:13 PM Post #4 |
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Saugh-he, American Indian visions are not about the end of Earth Mother <> Their visions are about a change with Earth Mother and the start of Earth Mothers new cycle. There is a quite a bit of difference between western prophecies and the visions of American Indians <> The western prophets see into the future and most prophesize about the end of Earth Mother. When the American Indian people look down the same path as the western prophecies; we see the completion of Earth Mothers great cycle and see that a change with Earth Mother will come <> The reason for the different views are found in the way life is experienced around Earth Mother <> In the West life is history. There is a past, present, future, beginning, middle and an end. The American Indian people experience life as a cycle. There are four paths, spring, summer, autumn and winter; like a cycle <> Each cycle is a preparation for the next. In the center of the cycle is the eternal present around which these cycles revolve. Visions and dreams of the holly people occur at the center of the sacred hoop, where the change can be seen. For the American Indians of North America, the last quarter of the 1800's was the winter of culture. All that was known had fallen away, like leaves from a tree. There lived a holy man, Drinks Water, who had vision of what was to be <> Drinks Water seen all the two legged strangers weave a web around the people <>Then, in his vision, Drinks Water seen the people living in square gray lodges, on a barren land and besides those lodges, the people starved <> Soon after his vision, Drinks Water returned to Earth Mothers dust; he crossed over from the pain and sorrow of his vision. Drinks Water vision occurred long before the coming of the boat people (1492) <> with their fences and houses and their slaughter of the great buffalo herds. At the time of Drinks Waters vision, it must have been difficult or impossible for the people to understand or even comprehend what he had seen and was speaking to them. What Drinks Water saw was a change of Earth Mother; it was more than he could hold in his mind. I have found with many people that are trying to interpret their dreams, visions or prophesy <> it should be remembered that they should avoid exaggeration; this is misleading. What was seen by Drinks Water was transformation of a sense of Drinks Waters personal or collective identity, including the attitudes, beliefs and sensitivities held by or considered characteristic of an individuals or groups, from one view of the earth to another and the emergence of a new earth. For over a century, the American Indian holly people have invisioned the end of Earth Mothers cycle, the disappearance of evil, the return of all living things which had vanished under the pressures of the present Earth Mother. The time, people are told is near. In my visions I see a system of waste and pollution so widespread as to cast a shadow across all the generations to come. It does not take a clairvoyant to predict this disaster. People are aware of the need for change. The question is, whether the necessary changes in the institutions and people will occur faster than the production of pollution generated by the people’s patterns of behavior. Like a dormant tree enduring winter, the people must find and give respect to Creator and Earth Mothers and their own understanding. I have found on the path of many colors, there is a great lack of desire to live in harmony with nature that is waiting to bloom again in the next earth cycle. Honor and respect the Creators Earth Mother, the holly people and elders that speak to the people <> They can help prevent this storm from being a total disaster. People can be one with all creation on Creator and Earth Mothers sacred path of many color’s, walk with peace. Creator as Chief, Wapankitupe ![]() |
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| Saxon | Mar 4 2007, 03:30 PM Post #5 |
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Nowhere do I see anyone's vision seeing the "ending of Mother Earth". If you're addressing what I'm saying here I'm not sure what you are referring to. One of the errors of many people seeing visions is to wrongly think the vision is about themselves. Those being given visions are chosen for their ability to connect and communicate what they have seen to others around them. Therefore, it is common for those having visions to think they are the "best" suited to know what the vision is saying. They were not chosen for their abilities in these areas but rather for their gift of reception. Black Elk's vision makes special effort to inform both he and those he tells that indeed his vision has NOTHING to do with himself but rather someone called Eagle Wings Streteches who is coming from the west. To ignore this fact is to wrongly interpret what the vision is saying. Ezekiel is yet another example of this fact. Ezekiel's channeling of Creator had NOTHING to do with Ezekiel other than that he was a gifted receiver of the message. No, Ezekiel's "vision" was about another person at the end of this age who is NOT Ezekiel. This is the reason that Black Elk has long gone to be with his fathers leaving all he saw in the vision undone, because the vision is NOT about Black Elk. Clearly the "blue man" is certainly NOT dead currently nor is the Tree of Life growing in the middle of this nation or any other nation for that matter. So, see these things however you will, it is not my job to convince you otherwise. If the American Indians imagine themselves to be the only ones capable of understanding their visions, they share a common bias seen among all nations which nullifies most of their "common brothers" speech. At this time there abounds much talk of "we are all one", "brothers and sisters one and all in Love" until matters of specialness arrive. Then all the talk goes out the window and each nation clings to their "specialness" like children fighting over preferred toys. IMO of course.
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| Wapankitupe | Mar 4 2007, 07:45 PM Post #6 |
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Saugh-he, I feel there will always be "apple polishers" who fawn and flatter with the expense of the author. Black Elks spiritual name was <>“Eagle Wing Stretches”<> I found a person that directs the walk of another’s path to greater heights is not always caring; there is open dislike and disrespect and with all that comes their counterfeit appearance of words. I feel if a person can’t speak in a caring way, they should not be directing the walk of another’s vision. Vanity separates and caring joins. I found that caring is a good force against vanity. Caring does not wish to command, but only to help. A caring person does not speak that another dose not have responsibility, but it asks only to help give strength to bare what it has. I found that caring is a good and strong force against all vanity; caring does not wish to command, but only to help. I have found that shifting my vision, words and song to another person’s shoulders, I lose some if not most of the meaning. In this generation, you can see many people of all ethnicities and all ancestries coming out to walk their sacred path. I feel that all that can should walk the sacred path with their heads held high and walk by their true faith; maybe soon all people will walk with peace. With your on words (So, see these things however you will, it is not my job to convince you otherwise), walk with peace. Creator as Chief, Wapankitupe
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| Saxon | Mar 5 2007, 01:41 PM Post #7 |
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Black Elk took this name as his own misunderstanding what Grandfather #1 was attempting to tell him. Grandfather pointed at himself saying "my spirit is going to enter your body to play out something Eagle Wing Stretches is going to do in the future". This is the case, because everything enacted has NOT yet happened and Black Elk is not here to perform them.
Truth is Truth regardless how it makes one feel. In this world Truth is the ugly prickly child none care to hug because of the feeling. Truth is no respector of persons nor does Truth care for gestures of religious "sacredness" and "holiness", for under the same do the lies of evil hide in the protection of the fear such provides.
#1, this is not your vision, so the "caring way" cannot be taken upon yourself. Black Elk is long gone from caring what I say one way or another about his vision. "Help" often comes in the form of spiritual surgery and "feeling good" is in no way the indicator of the "good" such provides. Black Elk offered up his vision for the help of "someone" who is going to perform what he saw. Clearly he did NOT do these things in his life here and more than likely realized such when he had his vision written down. So, believe what you like, but if you are going to take the position that in fact Black Elk performed the things shown in his vision feel free to show me any indication of the dead "Blue man" and the sprouting Tree of Life in our midst for ONLY with such evidence here NOW could Black Elk have been the doer of his vision. To look around ourselves in this world currrently and see anything but a worldwide drought is nothing short of delusional. Clearly the blue man LIVES. If I am wrong, feel free to tell me what this vision is saying and how the "new day" has arrived since you say that Black Elk's vision is "not about the end times", which IMO it CLEARLY is. If I'm being "mean", "uncaring" and speaking "counterfit words", then show me an example of my lack of heart. If I'm in "error" feel free to define the "error". As for "walking in peace", tell me how Warrior's "walk in peace" in a battlefield? In case you haven't noticed, we haven't arrived in "heaven" just yet and the fighting is intense. So, if you'd be so kind, turn around and aim yourself at someone who isn't ON YOUR SIDE! Thank you in advance.
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| Ol' Griz | Mar 5 2007, 03:31 PM Post #8 |
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I have just finished reading this thread from top to bottom for the fourth time and it is still beyond my comprehension how things went so bad, so fast. If it is okay to agree to disagree, then it should also be acceptable to agree to agree from two different perspectives. Black Elk spoke his words to an interpreter, who then spoke the words in english to the author, who wrote them down. It is my understanding that when words of one are passed on by another something will likely be lost because we lack the perspective of the one who spoke the words in the first place and the one who is speaking the words to us now. Perspective is influenced by ones own environment, life experiences, and knowledge, and is unique to all of us. From my perspective Black Elk's vision was one of hope for the future generations to come. That is why he agreed to have his vision recorded, so that the generations after him would have hope that some day the things in his vision would come to pass and all nations would live in peace again here on the Earth mother. In these words I find hope. Griz
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| Saxon | Mar 5 2007, 07:27 PM Post #9 |
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I'm not following you as to the "went so bad"? What went so bad? Wapankitupe doesn't like what I think I'm seeing so he's reacting in that manner. As for the vision, I personally think the vision is about the Pahana as the Lakota call him and not about Black Elk. Oddly, Wapankitupe started this with the same statement with..... http://z14.invisionfree.com/Dream_Expediti...?showtopic=1610
As I looked through the vision more closely I realized that the vision was not about Black Elk, but like the Lakota prophecy, rather detailing the return of the Pahana with his two angel escorts. I suppose my removing Black Elk from his own vision as is clearly indicated by Grandfather #1 is ruffling feathers. It's not that my analysis removes any "hope" from this vision but rather puts the activity on the shoulders of the Pahana instead. I'm not sure how that's removing hope since the activities detailed in this vison are clearly NOT complete and Black Elk as the "doer" is pretty much off the table since he's been gone for quite some time now. But hey, anyone is free to conclude whatever they'd like to concerning the vision as it will have zero impact on what actually transpires concerning such. For me, I'm looking for synchronicities with other American Indian prophecies I've seen and to me, this one is definitely attached to the Pahana prophecy. I suppose my question is this....Why is it so important for those holding this vision to see Black Elk as the inactor of what is being seen therein? Would not the same then require Jesus himself to be there writing his own future projections in a flesh body? Yes, it would. Shouldn't those who projected the life of Jesus have taken issue when someone pointed out that they were not propesying about themselves? Well, I think not, but maybe that's just me. Look guys, I'm not trying to stir up $hit here, I'm just putting down my thoughts as I'm going through this vision. If you'd rather not hear what I've got to say then that's fine as well. Regardless, I'm STILL going to crunch through the vision for my own edification. So I suppose from here on out, it's back to you guys and I'll step out of where I'm clearly not wanted. |
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| Guest | Mar 5 2007, 09:45 PM Post #10 |
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Saugh-he, things that seem to frustrate a person; the frustration come from their own doing. Those things that seem to annoy a person, the annoyance comes from their own. All things are as another person sees it. The Earth Mother, visions, prophecies are as they see, it is and experience as they choose to experience or not. Everything is filtered through a person’s own perception; and that perception is what they choose it to be. If humans choose to help Earth Mother, they need to begin with their perception of it. See Earth Mother as how they would like for it to be, whether it be with a vision or prophecy; this is two ways that this can be seen. Perception is no fantasy, but rather a person's own special gilt of reality; from Creator and Earth Mother. Maybe soon in the future a prophecy or vision will unfold for all the people; and be respected in all communities. Then maybe people would become listeners of Creator and Earth Mothers messages; maybe that someday is here and people are trying to share, walk with peace. Creator as Chief, Wapankitupe |
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| Wapankitupe | Mar 5 2007, 09:56 PM Post #11 |
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Saugh-he, with respects I forgot to Register, walk with peace. Creator as Chief, Wapankitupe
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| Loveandbeloved | Mar 5 2007, 11:35 PM Post #12 |
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Please gather around the campfire, my dear friends and loved ones... * * * * * * * * * * * * that's all I have to say at the moment.... |
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| Wapankitupe | Mar 6 2007, 01:53 AM Post #13 |
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Saugh-he, I did not choose wisely the words I have spoken; and in return there are those that these words caused Saxon and others to be upset, for what I had spoken. The past for me has been buried at the roots of the "White Pine" for my people is the tree of peace. On my path I have walked in and out of many worlds. Creator is the one that determines what path I walk, not me. I have asked Creator to choose the path that is needed for my return from Black Elks Vision. Friendships cannot be forced, It is something that must be mutually felt. Its going to be a long year of teaching ahead. I feel no person is born on Earth Mother; whose path is not born with him. Each person has been given a talent. It may not be some great shining thing, that will attract attention and bring fame. Living on Earth Mother has become so intricate, so great in detail, so fine in its workings, that it will require the skill of all. We will make mistakes, but there should also be forgiveness on good terms and go from there. Saxon I spoke out when it would have been better to have stayed quiet. I am happiest when I am spiritual and when I depend on anything else, I get off my path, walk with peace. Creator as Chief, Wapankitupe
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| Ol' Griz | Mar 6 2007, 01:12 PM Post #14 |
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Brother Saxon. This is not my intention, nor the meaning of my words. I have always respected your insight from your perspective on matters such as this. I may not fully understand, or agree with what you say, but the respect has always been there. We have walked together as brothers for over four years and in two forums. The road to the truth has been difficult, but slowly we all have put the pieces of the puzzle together and there is not one among us that will not agree that the common thread in all we have discovered has been that love will prevail. In love we will find understanding, and acceptance, and peace. I have felt an increase in what I will call a "time compression phenomenon" in the last couple of weeks. Everywhere I go the people are in such a hurry, easily frustrated and speak out in anger because of that frustration. I am not immune to this phenomenon either and have caught myself on several occaisions speaking out in anger because of this overwhelming sense of frustration and urgency. I try very hard to keep my focus on my path and speak only from my heart, but if I have slipped, and said something that has hurt you, please, please, forgive me. Griz
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| Saxon | Mar 6 2007, 05:43 PM Post #15 |
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Dear brother Griz, Truly you have said nothing that has bothered me in any way. My concern is with Wapankitupe, his actions I have witnessed here, as well as some of the reports I have heard from elsewhere. As I pointed out on the Hawk thread, to answer another who is asking YOUR thoughts on a situation with the words of someone else, while presenting them as your own, is stealing. When I discovered that in fact he had done so, I felt quite silly for my response which assumed that the words were those of Wapankitupe. Even in this world of "cut and paste" thought, using such as personal answers is highly unusual still and lowly regarded among all posters. If someone goes to forums and stirs others up with their presentation of thoughts on certain topics, then so much the better, for in such are many proded to re-evaluate things they hold as Truths. Truth can never be destroyed nor changed and the more the Truth is scoured in the light of seeking, the more does Truth shine. But to go to forums and offer up personal insult and "evaluation" as rebuttal to the thoughts of another on a topic is simply the act of causing dissention to ends typically focused upon the one causing the trouble. Very easily could anyone see that I myself have caused much debate at several forums over the years, but seldom if ever did I offer personal attack as a debate tactic. Even when being ridiculed and mocked by throngs of posters did I return such fruitless childish activity. If Wapankitupe disagrees with my assertions, that is fine, I have never demanded anyone agree with anything I think. But should someone wish to take issue with such, the topics must be addressed, and not with some personal vilification of the searching activity. I personally have had this tactic used against myself many times over the years as a silencing method as most are unable to see beyond the intents of those creating such dissention. Those trained professionally to patrol the internet for the many agendas, political, religious etc., use exactly these methodoligies to run off anyone who may potentially start thinking for themselves. For the most part, that is the reason for wide spread devolution on most forums in the arena of thought, the paid posters genearlly post endless reams of juvenille garbage to run off anyone looking for Truth. And as most will agree, the tactic has worked wonderfully for those looking to hide the Truth. In any regard, the personal thing is not nearly as big a deal with myself as the posting of the words of another as one's own words. For that I Truly would like to know why Wapankitupe is doing this?
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| Saxon | Mar 7 2007, 05:56 PM Post #16 |
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So, here we are at last to hone the last “plank” and fit it into the bridge that spans this realm to the eternal realm many call Heaven. And, in some ways I suppose, this being the last plank is not surprising considering the picture I am viewing. So, let’s take a look at a vision that has caught the attention of the world over the years, the Great Vision of Black Elk of the Lakota American Indian tribe of North America. Now, there has been much discussion over the years as to the “correctness” of Black Elk’s decision to break a long standing tradition and radically offer up this vision along with other personal view to of all people, the white nation, specifically a white guy. As radical as this may seem, I suspect that there is an underlying reason for Black Elk’s decision, and that reason appears to me that he decided that the vision he had as a 9 year old boy was not really about himself as at the old age that he offered up this vision, he could see no real correlation between the vision and his own life. As I read through the account of his life, he makes parallels between his memories and the vision, but beyond some seemingly minor parallels, the life of Black Elk did not come close to “saving the universe” as is clearly depicted in his vision. And, Black Elk being the exceedingly wise man that he was, more than likely noticed this as well by the last of his years. And as well, he knew that whoever was riding that “bay horse” by definition HAD to be here on Mother Earth in the flesh, something he knew full well he was soon to depart. Because of this do I believe that Black Elk offered up his vision to paper recording so that it might find its way to whomever was depicted in the vision called “Eagle Wing Stretches”.
If you will notice in the above, Black Elk is “9” years old at the time of this vision, the symbolic number of “judgment” and/or “evaluating” as in separating “sheep from goats” so to speak. Also notice that he is always escorted by TWO angels as the “Pahana” of another related Lakota prophecy, a white/Caucasian “Watcher” who in the beginning of days used to watch over them, prophesied to return at the end of days. It is my opinion that in fact the entirety of this vision is being enacted by Black Elk, but rather than depicting the life actions of himself is instead depicting the life actions of another who would return at the end of days, Eagle Wing Stretches…..the Pahana.
So, here Black Elk is escorted to the spirit realm where a very important story is going to be imprinted on his mind for the sake of another as is often the case with messages delivered here from the spirit realm. There are, for the most part, TWO sources of these types of messages, one from the non-rebellious Kingdom and one from the rebellious Kingdom. And since this realm is so very close to those rebellious the messages from the same pour into this realm currently as a flood, a flood of lies. In contrast, the messages arriving here from the topmost part of the Kingdom, from those non-rebellious, are FAR fewer and by far MUCH more difficult to deliver. Therefore, in this case they chose a yet unspoiled child of symbolic age and as well one with the mighty gift of reception for assured delivery. Also, to enhance the imprint of this message, those delivering used Black Elk to “act out” the actions of someone who would come after him. As well, this spirit group went through much trouble keeping Black Elk alive to have him finally offer his vision to all at the end of his years as seen in his many miraculous brushes with death over his lifetime.
So, here Black Elk is being introduced to the inhabitants of the Kingdom, those then and now populating the universe at large in their varied states of spiritual development. There is a dual notion, or possibly even a triple symbolic notion to these pictures in that they are conveying much information as is typical for images of this sort. So first, we look to the “west” where there are “Twelve” (the number of government and rule) “horses” (a great symbolic for the spirits of our Creator, the “wild” free running children who have offered themselves up to much trouble since their beginnings on the “black road” of war and suffering which travels from the “east”, the beginning to the “west” the end of this age of rebellion.) If you’ll notice, these horses are “black”, a color used to show the condition of their hearts. They are unruly (plunging) and have executed many brilliant minds (buffalo hoofs around their necks) in hopes of exalting their way out of their poor choices they’ve made along the black road of their own choosing. No doubt, they are a spiritually sick lot as is shown several times in the vision.
And here we are introduced to those “above” (north) from the non-rebellious Kingdom. They are “white” with hearts filled with REAL Love and compassion, and over the years they have diligently labored to bring this nutty nutty lot of brothers and sisters to their collective senses. Notice that THIS group has sacrificed nothing to adorn their necks, nor would they. Their alternate symbolic is a “white goose” (swan) which as well tells of another aspect of their spiritual makeup, that they “mate for life” (eternally) and also the associated spiritual attributes they share with the same. Indeed, in this Kingdom in which we all exist, the hope is that one and all will one day “morph” (some call this “alchemize”) form “ugly ducklings”, spiritually speaking, to the Swans so needed to look after the developing “ducklings”. As you would expect, in the following part of this vision this group is always offering up the “healing herbs” (knowledge) needed by those developing to revitalize their spirits.
The “east” is symbolic for the “beginning of time” as well the spiritual condition of those who initiated the “black road” on which they travel. So, don’t get me wrong here, these shown on the beginning of the black road are CLEARLY already on this road, and they are there for a VERY good reason as shown with the “elk’s teeth” adorning their necks. “Elk’s Teeth” are something which Elk use to eat, a food which can be quite difficult for others to even handle, “fen grass” as it’s called. Fen grass of the Irish symbolic realm is something which grows in the low lying bogs of Ireland, and easily cut the hand of those attempting to “grab” it while at the same time being wholly nourishing for the Elk of Ireland. The “Elk” is a typical symbolic for those in eternal bodies, but also denotes a bit of “youth” to their spirit condition. Of ten the same incarnation here from “above” are depicted as “Elks” while doing what they do here. So, this group, has sacrificed something about themselves as denoted by the teeth and Truly this group has decided that that intended diet of Love just isn’t as important as their Creator may have thought, they’ve ditched that whole notion of eternal mating because they just KNOW that they know everything. Sound familiar? So, in such a way did they/we all enter onto the black road, some by choice, most by default.
And finally, we have those of the “South”, the “buckskins” (typical symbol of those incarnating here from “above”) who represent those living in flesh bodies here in this world where once was planted the “Tree of Life” (the Kingdom system for developing spirits for introduction to the realms of the “North” as in this vision) Notice their “manes” that cycle (“lived and grew”) here on Mother Earth and as well the necessity of “horns” (governmental control) typifying their stay here in the all encompassing “day care” of the universe, the developmental realm of our Creator’s children.
The “formation” shown above is something currently in process as I’m writing this. Currently we have a whole lot of “company” from the “four corners” of the universe, as this vision is already in play. They are all in formation, “four abreast” to symbolize this notion while the “terrible sky” and “plunging horses” denotes what is currently being seen by those with “eyes to see”.
The above is showing the activity of each of these realms in connection to these current events. Those from the North are busy as a “mighty wind” of Truth here in the minds of those searching. Those from the East, those who now have realized the futility of their “wisdom” of the past are, in essence, “cheering”. Those of the South represent the incarnated spirits here of all “colors” who realize what I am saying here, and “happy” is somewhat of an understatement.
“Make haste” is a common theme of this vision in that the vision is aimed at the very last days and that our Creator is in essence going to “pull the rabbit out of the hat” quite unexpectedly to those currently gripping the universe. Think of it as a surprise “attack”. The horses change to extend their symbolic to the entirety of all life in the universe in that the theme playing out here does in fact greatly impact ALL Life in the universe.
So, now at this late date we meet the “players” of this “end time” “play”. The “six” (number of flesh man) old men are those “tying” this realm to the nearby spiritual realm symbolically. They form the “watch post” section of the “Watcher” eternally bodied collective. They, needless to say, are hugely active in the end of this age of rebellion. And absolutely, we are all currently living in a “fishbowl” and all eyes are fixed upon the “competition” who threaten the iron grip rule of the evil king of the universe, the “blue man”.
If you will notice, these Grandfathers form a double pyramid if all “points” are connected. The double pyramid is the universal symbol of the Tree of Life, denoting the birthing into both this realm and the eternal realms. The “thunder beings” probably denotes the past history here of those “plunging black horses” of the West, when they once upon a time, “took unto themselves the daughters of men”. The old real time stories of “Zeus” (nope, not “myths”) have these “gods” thundering and fighting and carrying on like a pack of silly children, that being the “problem” for our current situation.
And here we have arrived at the place where those delivering this message attempted to inform the receiver that in fact, the whole vision is about someone who will be coming from the “west” directionally as well as the end of time as goes this age. As would be expected, the receiver took this vision to be about him but as I stated above, suspect he later knew that it was not, therefore his reason for offering it up to those looking like the “Pahana”, those who could effectively keep the vision alive for someone who could understand and benefit. Therefore, from here on out, and really, even from the very start with the two angel escort, this vision has always been entirely about the Pahana, depicting what the Pahana will be doing at the very last days of this part of this age. The Pahana is sometimes symbolized by a White Horse in that he is indeed from the “North” and is, as a matter of fact, their hoped “champion” of this ensuing battle. For this reason is he shown here holding the power of “life and death” as is typified by the White Horse and Truly he will be a deliverer to some and a death sentence to others depending upon the “side” they choose to inhabit. But do keep in mind, that most of these images are spiritually aimed and not physically as so many wrongly assume. The Pahana isn’t so much about physically kicking the butts of those evil ruling the universe currently as much as re-establishing that “bridge of Love” known as the Tree of Life. So, don’t be looking for big showy miracles as is typified by the enemy of the Pahana, but rather look for someone administering the “herb of the North”, understanding of the Truth. Also, Grandfather #1 here is symbolically showing that not only will the Pahana come from the west at the end of time, but also that he will require help from above in the form of understanding to “fatten up” spiritually. Interestingly, this “help” will be administered by the hand of the Lakota people, by someone in their ranks.
Here, Grandfather #2 is speaking directly to Pahana informing him of his future “job” which will be overlooking the “salvaging” of our Creator’s children here in the free will day care of Mother Earth where Love is taught like only a Mother can teach it. Accordingly, the two nations, the “thunder nation” and the “white geese nation” are the respective rebellious v.s. the non-rebellious of the Kingdom. And as a Truth, it is a standing room only event. The “cleansing wing/wind” is that provided by those of the North, those “giants” who are currently blasting the earth with the Truth to be seen and heard by those of such capacity. With such does one ultimately “wash” their minds to open their hearts to the reality of their existence within the Whole, the “One”.
And here we have Grandfather #3 who represents the connection to those of the beginning of time and therefore the “change” to be effected by the Pahana upon the same. As is shown in the alternate Lakota Pahana prophecy, the Pahana is in fact heavily guarded with some really powerful heavenly “thugs” as would be expected in such an invasive expedition in enemy territory. The “pipe” is symbolic of the peace which all of this will effect upon those of the beginning who once had the morning star (Love) shining brightly on their foreheads (minds). The spotted eagle is THE symbolic for the Watcher collective in that, not only do they “mate” for eternity, but they “fly high” over the earth “watching” with their incredible sight, live at the top of Mountains (the Kingdom) and are lastly the “King of the Birds”. Those of the “East” incarnated in this realm (in this case the red man of plenty) will “roll in the dust” (as directed by their Creator for ALL) to then learn and take something back that will be shown on their foreheads, the morning star.
Pahana is actually one of the original descendents of the “giants of the North”, and said to be related to those many call “Lucifer” here, the “blue man” of this vision. For this reason is he called “Younger brother” and informed he will be a “relative” to those incarnating here as his enemy. His actions here will, through understanding, re-establish the Tree of Life in this realm, the “Door” which was purposely closed by the rebellious for purposes of maintaining their own power both here and in the universe in general. In this way does the Pahana “save” not with some magical wand which violates the most fundamental Law of our existence, Free Will. The Tree of Life must be traveled by ALL and there is no “deal” which can be cut with one’s Creator to effectively take spiritual CHILDREN and magically promote them into positions of universal control in the “North”. The “red stick” has a twofold utility in this case in that the Pahana himself is apparently “crippled” in some way, needing to “lean” on the Love denoted by the “stick”. In short, the Pahana is first going to live the life of Love in accordance with the red road, leaning upon those there in Love to then ultimately “plant” (establish) the stick which takes on a life of its own in the hearts of those around him. In the center of the nation’s circle probably signifies the placement here in the US which is currently the “superpower” of the world, or the “nation’s center”.
Here we are being shown the initialization of the Tree of Life by Pahana. He will plant his “walking cane” in the America (the heart of the Beast) where it will take root in the intersection of the North-South red road (the road of Love traveled between the non-rebellious eternal realm and the mortal realm of Mother Earth) and the East-West black road (the road and timeline of the rebellion from beginning to end, in this case even to the end of the “millennium” as some call it) The Pahana will be in the middle of traveling both roads at the same time in that he has come from the North on the red road to take his part of the black road. In so doing has he gained the “right” to “destroy a people’s foes”, those who have imprisoned this realm and surrounding universe with deception aimed at the hearts of the people, aimed at Divine Love. “Your nation” in this case is anyone of any nation here and out there who join ranks with the effort. The “four ascents” are the “four turnings” of the age of the “Millennium”, the “day” of salvaging for our brothers and sisters. Notice that he (Pahaha) is an “Elk” (young non-rebellious eternally bodied) who comes here to live as a “buckskin”, mortally bodied of the same origination. And through his effort the buckskins here are morphed to Elks.
As stated previously, the spotted eagle is THE symbolic of the Watchers and Grandfather #5 is simply pointing out to the Pahana that not only will these Watchers watch after him here, but that also, once he “wins”, he will “supplant” the “blue man” or he who many call Lucifer thereby making him the “King” of the Watchers in the future.
The above is bit codified to timeline in that Black Elk’s body is being utilized to show a timeline as to the birth of the Pahana. In other words, were Black Elk to be as old as he saw, (by this description somewhat older than he was at his death, meaning the Pahana would be born and/or a boy when Black Elk’s body would appear as old as he was shown. Grandfather #6 then takes him (Pahana) “out the rainbow door” (out of “heaven”) where he is then being incarnated here in this realm. (riding the bay horse) The “nation” again is the collective of those choosing to follow the red road of the Pahana.
The above is a statement of the living conditions of Pahana when he is here where he has the “chance” to accomplish this most monumental task.
Notice the horses of the East who now have morning stars imprinted on their minds, a show of their change of mind. From these has the power of peace been bestowed as well the understanding to undertake the challenge of the hoped “red day”( day of understanding Love and its place in the beginning) which ends the age of rebellion. The “nation’s hoop” is the unification of eternal family lines into their original continuous/eternal groupings as undertaken here during the Millennium “under the sun” of the “yellow day” (understanding of the Tree of Life). The Tree of Life is placed in the “center” of the nation’s hoop to show the methodology which will be utilized to re-establish the long broken eternal relationships of the eternal “gods” of old.
And we’re off to walk “through the valley of Death” so to speak and for those of this realm with eyes to see and ears to hear, those enemies of this band, this regiment of the spiritual realm incarnated here is fearful indeed because in them rides the “promise” of Enoch, the supplanting of their king of evil and therefore their total loss of power and subsequent tossing into pit #4 that some call “hell”.
And notice the direction the regiment is riding, East. They are headed back to that “split in the Mountain” which was formed back at the birth of the rebellion. Many of these pictures are similar to those painted in “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy because they are detailing the same man, “The Return of the King”. (Pahana) And if one will simply look around themselves in the spiritual realm they will see the conditions described above. |
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| Saxon | Mar 7 2007, 06:12 PM Post #17 |
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Notice that the very presence of Pahana brightens the earth wherever he may be in the spiritual realm. The “three streams making a big One” is the “split in the Mountain”, where the “three” (third) have fractured and now feed into the “One” collective. Rivers are symbolic of life generation and it is exactly HERE that those rebellious have maintained their power over the many years fashioning many of the eternal Female collective into a “weapon” that not only besieges the upper Kingdom, but also holds shut the “Door” and “Bridge” which connect the path of the red road. The “Flames” are the mechanizations of “Eros” the so called “god” of erotica, or “monkey sex”, sex outside the realm of Real Love. The “blue man” is “Lucifer” as shown on the Tarot card “Aeon” who’s got his finger to his mouth showing himself to be THE man of “secrets”. (what a pathetic joke) Yes, “Jehovah” as many call him is nothing more than the biggest damn liar in the universe bar none, the “keeper of secrets” utilized to lure the unsuspecting “initiates” into the “mysteries” as sheep to the slaughter. And needless to say, when that much “hot air” is blowing there’s bound to be LOTS of dust as described above where the air is filled with dust (death) and those in the grips of this “gods” lies are spiritually weak and therefore TRAPPED. (but they think they are “illumined” LOL)
And the battle is ON! And try as they might, those of the universe just don’t have the spiritual heart to overcome this charlatan at his own game. He’s slicker than owl #$%^ as some say and virtually all fall for his lures and deceptions/distractions. But Eagle Wing Stretches has finally arrived at that place of his “gamble”, throwing his hat in the incarnation ring to retrieve Love and relatives once lost in the rebellion. Think of the battle between Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader here because there are many similarites, although the whole Star Wars saga is written from the perspective of Lucifer, and I’m not going to open that can of worms here. Nonetheless, as surprising as all of this is, the blue man finally gets what’s coming to him, and if you’ll notice the blue man is “rubbed out” through the heart signifying the crux of the whole affair. Also, take note that once the blue man is put in his place, he is not really dead, but rather reduced to a much lower capacity form, the Turtle. He may be down and out here, but like the turtle he’s COMING BACK and we’ll be seeing that shortly at the end of the Millenium.
Notice the “drought” imagery above which is the exact imagery used in the Hebrew language to talk of this same condition, in which the “drought of Love which is also ended with the “latter day rain”. Ring any bells?
And here, we enter the Millennium as it’s called. The spiritually sick are healed and the Kingdom system of the Tree of Life is initiated once more to never totally end again. (notice the word totally, it looks like a REALLY close call)
And here the Millennial Kingdom is established here on Mother Earth again, She gets all “dolled up” once again, and finally, things are back to the way they were meant to be by our Creator…….at least for a few times.
The “white wind” is the permeation of Truth on which Love is established along with the resultant peace. How about…..”No Love, No Peace……Know Love, Know Peace”. And without Truth, there is neither Love nor Peace. The “daybreak star” (Love) is “a relative” to any who know Real Love, for under such ALL are relatives. ;-) And to those who care not to see Love will indeed be “dark” as is seen all around now, for ONLY in Love is Real wisdom found.
And now it’s time to walk the hoped red road of the salvaging Millennium, the Truth on their faces.
And off go the Watchers and people of the Millennium, set upon the red road of Love, spearheaded by youth, backed up with age and wisdom and finally shepherded by the Watchers.
And here we see the “ghosts” following the original spearhead band beginning down the red road. This is much like the ghosts needing pardon in the Mounting in “The Lord of the Rings”. The task being undertaken here is the future mortal embodiment of these ghosts into their original eternal family lines to re-establish their family bonds within Mother Earth’s “day care”. The Watchers who have supplanted the previous rebellious are those leading this “expedition” of salvaging.
The “four ascents” are in fact the “four turnings” of the Millennium. The first will be as described above, fresh, pristine, a land FILLED with MANY children as all mortal complications save old age will be eliminated and people will repopulate the Earth quickly. But don’t forget about that old “turtle” from a while back, he’s slow but he’s REALLY determined to get REVENGE!! Besides, he’s smarter than our Creator don’t you know? ;-)
So here we are in the second turning, the land is still green, but what’s happening to the people? Their numbers are increasing and so are those nifty ideas now starting to make the rounds from the efforts of that turtle. Yes, the people, believe it or not, even when they are surrounded by those feeding them the plain Truth, will entertain themselves with the newly born “inspired men” with those “new” fangled “truths”. Sound familiar? Yes, that’s why Life is described as a circle. Yes, as their hearts/minds are morphing they are beginning to take on those familiar animalistic mannerisms so endemic around us all now. Notice the effect this has on the Tree of Life? Yup, She’s already wilting with all that new found “wisdom”. Notice that Pahana is now distanced in eagle form, watching from above as no one desires his presence in their company.
So, do you notice not only the change of terrain but now the road change back to the black road with associated “direction” change? This is the coming of the “second rebellion” of the Millennium which lasts but a short time but inflicts all but those supplanters of Pahana’s “nation”. Yes, this new rebellion is going to wash right up to the gates of their Mountain home and give everyone a really good look at themselves. (and each other for that matter) Did you notice how each man now has his own “truth” to follow, his very own “vision” of right and wrong? Sound familiar? And what a surprise, in flows the warring with the associated re-broken family lines, dying Tree of Life and total lack of birds right on cue. No birds? Nope, why should the Watchers waste their time with people who already know everything….right?
Yes, here we are, right back at that river again with the three feeders. Nah, you don’t suppose do you? Yes, our turtle has been VERY busy and “monkey sex” is again “in vogue”. I mean, who needs Love anyway right?...........Right?
And, at the worst of time enters yet another inspired man from the North to bring these wayward people back to their senses once more. Headstrong like a Buffalo, but filled with Love “red man” he will once again bring understanding in the midst of these now, once again, spiritually tormented children in the “herb” of four colors which encompass the Kingdom. Like a pebble in a pond, the ripples begin.
So from above, Pahana can see the spiritual agony and many are making ready for something they thought had gone forever, spiritual confusion with all its assorted physical torments. But this nonetheless does not change Pahana’s charter; he is the King and will forever be such. And indeed from this “motley crew”, through the intense forging of Mother Earth, he will lead the effort to bring his brothers and sisters to their senses, so that they finally care enough to really know the Truth themselves, not simply live under the easy shade of its enforcement. And indeed the extents of this new rebellion has reached the quarters of the universe once more.
Notice that Pahana is now back among the people due the opening provided by the “red man” shown previously, and once there, he is again healing yet another “faded” horse with understanding, the herb of four colors, but not just any faded horse.
And here is the beginning of the end of all rebellions, starting with the “king” of the spirits of the universe below the “nation” of Pahana. I have seen a story detailing the future failing of Michael the “archangel” which would fit rather nicely here in this picture. I suppose one could estimate that even possibly this could be the salvaging of Lucifer himself, but that seems like a bit of a stretch in my opinion. Regardless, this is finalization of the salvaging of our Creator’s children and a once very high up “horse” is going to lead the charge home.
Did you notice the new arrival of the “virgin” imagery as the replacement for the Tree of Life and the loss of the bow? That is due the Twin Flame foundation of the Kingdom in which Love reigns supreme and “monkey sex” is mocked to derision. Yes my friends, at long last they “get it”, and once they get it, they as a group no longer need the Tree of Life as such is a training tool only. And from the ends of the universe will all finally arrive to take their place on the Mountain of the Kingdom which needs not the Tree of Life. (But that doesn’t mean those that they will Watch in the future wont need the Tree of Life, because for the new spirits the “training wheels” of the bicycle of Love will always be required.
Yup, at long last our Creator’s children have finally grown up spiritually and the universe is a much better place for it.
And the “day” of the Millennium is finished, a day of happiness when all is said and done. And Pahana is being taken to the top of the Mountain of the Kingdom where he will rule forever and ever as the “Akae” of Enoch, the “promise” during the age of rebellion, to some, the “One”; he who lives next door to our Creator and in whose “house” those who visit never want to leave due the intense aura of Love.
This is the view from Pahaha’s future throne. Notice the Tree of Life for the newbie nations below, but not for those of the Mountain? That’s because those who are born into the eternal realms no longer require Love training wheels, they’re all grown up and ready to look after others.
This is the “it is finished” paragraph, Truth and understanding reign supreme with Love held high for the supreme eternal prize to which ALL other prizes pale by comparison.
Think of this as Pahana’s victory parade.
Notice the “people yet to be”? Yup, our Creator wants MORE children, can you imagine? So, long live Mother Earth, the spirit day care of yesterday, today and tomorrow, forever and ever.
This defines the future victory of Pahana and indeed he and those his followers are greatly “celebrated” because they have “overcome the Beast”, (the blue man and his deceptions deployed by his minions) something only a relatively small number of people can do.
And now the final address to Pahana’s future success is being sung and the transference of spirits between Black Elk and Pahana is being initiated as Black Elk must return to the Earth to deliver his newly imprinted message.
To make my point, on Black Elk’s journey home he is being Watched over by the spirit of Pahana as the spotted eagle. The “tall rock mountain” is the future “repaired” Mountain of our Creator with Pahana as the ruling King of the realm, the Watcher of the Watchers so to speak. |
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| Wapankitupe | Mar 8 2007, 02:11 AM Post #18 |
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"Wallace Black Elk" speaks. "Black Elks" grandson. "Black Elk Speaks" the book was first published in 1932 to enthusiastic reviews from literary critics who regarded it as a strange yet beautiful book. The general public, having almost no knowledge of Indians, gave the book a cool reception and in less than two years the publisher discontinued it. Authored by John G. Neihardt, Black Elk Speaks portrays Black Elk as an OgIala Sioux holy man and priest and chronicles the life of the Indian medicine man's journey into the center of the earth. Born in, 1863, Black Elk, second cousin to Crazy Horse, witnessed the Battle of Little Big Horn at the age of 13 and was present at the Battle at Wounded Knee, in 1890. A copy of this "book of visions" made its way to Zurich, Switzerland and was rediscovered and enjoyed by German scholars, including renowned philosopher and psychologist Carl Jung. The book was reissued in 1961 and has continued to grow in popularity. In late 1985, staff of “The Indian Reader” interviewed Black Elk's grandson “Wallace Black Elk” who also was also medicine man. His words echoed those of his grandfathers in a lively and extensive conversation; between him and “Indian Reader” executive editor “Dr. MaCaki PeSheWa” who himself a shaman and priest. Based on, this meeting, “The Indian Reader” is pleased to share with you. “ Wallace Black Elk “ In our Lakota language we are makowla sha sha--we are earth people and iktewe sha sha, common people. That's the language they use. So that is the way we were recognized. The spirit never said we're "American Indians." They never used that. We know America, this land we call Turtle Island, is named after Amerigo Vespucci. My middle name-Vespucci-is gone; I don't know what happened to "Vespucci" but, drop my middle name or last name, then they call me "American Indian." The word "Indian" itself doesn't mean anything. It's, another fictitious, name. Just because Columbus said so. It's a lost word. He got lost and used a misplaced word and applied it to us. So today (When-someone asks] "Are you American Indian?" we say "Yea!" ' Now there is another label on top of that. They call me "Sioux." The word "Sioux" is a French word. It means "‘cut, throat, or cunning." So some people say "I'm a Sioux," "I'm proud to be Sioux, or " I'm proud to be Indian." But thats all fictitious. So all these things confuse people. And the Way history is written; it's only for them. So Columbus told the Queen of Spain that he was going to India by way around the world, because the world was round. So he was going to go around, coming through the back door, so to speak. Get all the gold, and spices, come back, swing around the other way through the front door; because going through the Mediterranean there's a lot of rip-offs going on. So, that was the intention. But see, going off in the water, he went totally off course. And he didn't know where he was or where he went. So we found him [laughter]. So we had to send him back to where he came from. But that is not in the history. Well, Indians have the navigation-the stars. They use the stars and say, "You go that way and you get home. That's the way you came from." So, they sent him back. About the word "Indian." When he [Columbus] sees these people-"Indians!" Because he was going to India, the word just popped out. "Indians [laughter] And here they want to change the word "Indios," because "Indios" is a Portuguese word that means "Children of God." But he never told the Queen that he was going to see the Children of God. He was going to India. But later the literaturists altered it. They wanted to change the name to Indios but, this never was so. It wasn't that way. Today, in Webster’s dictionary, in the whole English language, look for the word "Indian.". Webster never defined what the word "Indian" means. It only gave "primitive people of North America" thats all. So, the definition of earth people goes much deeper. It goes back to the fire and the rock and the water and green. So that definition goes much deeper. So, we are the real, true earth people-the sacred, mystery people of Turtle Island. And so, there will be a time when people will understand who we are. Really who we are. And I think all races of people are going to find themselves as earth people. Then it will come to one understanding again. And that is my goal, to define who we are. Today, in this society, they all talk about the "heavenly father." But they dont know who their mother is. Because Adam was out of the blue, you know, they dont know who their mother is. Now the other science-they preach the evolution. These scientists went to work and started looking for their mother and they thought they'd found their mother. Their mother was a monkey. So they start to preach evolution. We are the real, true earth people-the sacred, mystery people of Turtle Island and so, there will be a time when people will understand who we are; really, who we are. And I think all races of people are going to find themselves as earth people. Then it will come to one understanding again. So today, civilized, Christianized people talk about their heavenly father, but they don't know who their mother is. And we have a spirit that is with us here, he tells us these people say "heavenly father" but these people never saw him. They never saw him; that's what he said. When I was lecturing at Berlin University, this guy came running up with this thick book, waving. Hey, you're right its written here, that no man has seen the face of god; and I didn't write it. So we know who our mother is. Because we talk about the wisdom that encompasses the knowledge and the knowledge is a woman, we call "grandmother," the "earth" or "Earth Mother." So the light begin from a fire. We were called fire-tenders and were earth-ruled. Our body is made of fire, rock, dirt, earth. Because we drink water, and we eat green, we are part earth; so the fire, rock, water, and green- that's what rules me. That's how come we are earth people. So the definition, to me, is that simple. There are four sacred colors; four winds, up and down, then in a circle. So we always look at things from all directions. But this philosophy confuses people because they always say; there is two sides. There is two sides to a coin, there's always two sides. But we're the people who always look at four sides, one on top, one from the bottom; so, we look at things that way. So it's the same way, trying to figure out, who we, the earth people really are; so I think it is a good subject. Like we have a pipe, we call sacred -pipe and this- is carved by, tuca chila [the creator]. He gave us one drop of wisdom and grandmother gave us one drop of knowledge and power, and a gift we call talent and love. So these four parts, I think, need to be defined. Accurately, precisely, concisely. It has to be interpreted by all languages. For example, we have a straight line and then we have a square, a diamond, a rectangle and a triangle. So, these are the four basics. When you put these all together, you have the geometrical circle. And that's what Einstein proved. So, like we have the numbers and the maths, geometry, algebra, trigonometry, and calculation. This is what Einstein used “calculation”. He uses this power. The knowledge has a base like fire, rock, water, green. So Einstein only thinks that he proved everything exists with a circle. So he called his fire "energy." So the base of knowledge has a power. So it began with a fire; it is called atom" or "energy." E =.MC2. But now Man claims he discovered the atom. He claims he discovered the fire lakes and oceans. Like Balboa came over and go across this and go like this “Black Elk shields his eyes from sunlight with his hand, as though surveying the land, and he said, "I discovered the Pacific, like that. The earth, people say, "is that what is out there?" [laughter] Einstein knew when he discovered the - fire or atom, it would go in the wrong hand, it would spell total annihilation. So who's the wrong hand? A reporter came and was to write about what he called us "Indians." He wanted to write something about "Indians." "So whats this tree?" he says. "What kind of wood?" He started taking notes on his little pad. What kind of wood? "Oh, these are pine, and these are cottonwood and these are hickory and ash wood." "Can you tell me what a cottonwood tree looks like?" So I have to march him down into the canyon. There is this big tree standing. This is a cottonwood. Which one is a hickory?" And I have to march him over to this end. I had to march him all over. A tree is a tree: he is educated. A tree's a tree, so I had to run him all over to find out. "What do you call this?" Thats a fire." [laughter] from The word fire" itself is derived from the Latin and Greek. So what is the word fire in English? So they only speak correct English but there is no correct English because English is rooted into Latin, Greek, Hebrew and many other languages. It's' sort of like a. bastardized language. It's lost its roots. So that's how come the English language is the most dangerous language in the world. That the spirit told us. There is all these negatives and words like ifs and buts and maybes, assuming and probabilities and all this; its all negative. That's the way we speak. The human brain is a bunch of receiving cells and the electrical wave comes and dilates and receives the message. But we pack all this junk in one side-laws and rules and regulations. So when we receive the message, we always oppose it: "but- if"-like that you know; we always oppose and reject it. I went to the University of Utah. I asked, what is the definition of 'psychology and they said it is the study of human behavior or something like that; what we call spirit. Like one boy here last Monday night, he went to a vision quest. I took him, up to Rock Mountain. And he was talking to send telepathic wave, intelligent talking to him-but secretly and quietly. But he always stop and reject-oppose in his mind-because he had, laws and rules and regulations, all set in his mind embedded in deep. So he has to go by these rules and regulations, see? Now what, he saw here is only what he hears. So he didn't actually see nothing because he rely on his naked eye. This society rely on the naked eye. They cut out communication from ear and the senses, smell and taste and feeling; they have lost it. This society relies on the naked eye. They cut out communication from ear and the senses, smell and taste and feeling; they have lost it. Make him understand because this boy only want to find the truth and the truth is already here. The stars and the moon and the sun and the earth is here and the fire is here and everything is still here; we just simply wandered off. So, we asked tucachila: "Make him understand because this boy only want to find the truth and the truth is already here. The stars and the moon and, the sun and the earth is here and the fire is here and everything is still here. But we just simply wandered off. So tucachila have mercy on him and make him understand like that-quietly-it will be all right, that is so." So he accepted our plea. So to tell this boy, in educated way, that, he could say something, he could change it- quick-but very little come from his heart. So good words will trickle down to his heart and from there, he will think he live by the spirit, by the fire that the atom is, the spirit. So tell him that …. and that he relies on his naked eyes, his eyes plays tricks on his mind …. tell him that and he-sees what be sees, but not what he wants to see. Tell him that. So that's psychology, see? They forced us to go to school. The Christian people were at the forefront and there was military power and there was technology and science behind them. They poked holes in us and get all this energy out and there's the politician behind that. So this kind of all molded together and kind of rolled over us. So we have to go under it. My cousin was telling how we were forced to go to school and how we were forced to learn spelling. If we didn't spell a word correctly, they whipped our hands with a ruler. Sometimes they broke the ruler, or our hands, or put clothespins on our ears or tied our shoes together and put them around our neck or sometimes made us eat laundry soap. They used all kinds of things to make us spell. I think the white people misspell too, since gold is the highest value in the world. So we all got caught in this gold dome. But I think they misspelled gold, they left the "I" out. of "gold." So that is why they put "In God We Trust." [laughter] So this society drifted away when they took that drop of wisdom and knowledge and power and gift and they wanted to exercise their mind. So Man says" well I am going to build some mountains.. Well, it's already here. I am going to build some trees Well its already here. I am going to make some flying people." Well they're already here. "So I am going to make some four legged walk around here, make some creatures walk around. They are already, here. So what else could he make? He started looking around. Stars? Well it's already here? Moon? Sun? Everything. What else can I make? He wanted to exercise his mind because their wisdom creates all things. Because wisdom in itself is a creator. And the knowledge is a woman that gives Iife-birth, and life. So what else could he make? He looked around. There's nothing. Everything he understands because everything has science language. Everything is calculated precisely and everything was already calculated, made by creator. When you go to the university, you have to speak one of the languages. You have to understand the scientific language or the psychological language or the legal language or religious language. Science language and psychological language are two separate languages: they don't communicate. You know, we have medical science now, probing, trying to discover a remedy for cancer, tuberculosis, heart disease and so on. But these are four basics that have no cure and in fact, they have a record of over 2000 years combating these dread diseases but they have no cure up to this time. Pollution begins in the mind. Then, if it localizes, the effect (localizes in the body]. We do have medicine, like I mentioned, the green vegetation, the trees and the forest is our home, the edible vegetables that we eat and there are medicine people. So these are spiritual foods and these are medicine people. They will be our first aid people and they will come to the aid of Man. Well run into this problem-. Because where Man made his mistake was that the wisdom and knowledge and power and gift twisted his own mind. Man claims to discover the fire and rock and water and the green and then build' a bonfire to place the rock on top and melt all these metals like gold and silver, copper, lead, iron, steel, aluminum down to the plastic cups. And he uses water to mold and shape things. And without thinking leaves all the residue behind and causes all kind of contamination and the effects. , The scientists became pollution scientists and what they caused was frustration, arguments, anger-confusion is all they left behind. "Well, this is not our job. Let the medicals and the psychologists solve that problem. That's their job, they're hired and paid for this so let them solve it."' But here, medical science ends up finding out what caused all the radioactive problems, the effects-the chain reaction. Now, they have no way of neutralizing this radioactivity. So now: "This, is not our problem, this in a legal problem." So. they pass it on to the legal people. The Congress says: "Clean air Thats an order! Well, the air never clears, up. Clean water! Thats an order!" Well the water never clears up. Rivers and lakes and oceans-nothing. So everybody is like in a shell and everybody contaminates each other, and they all try to blame each other and try to squirm out at the same time. So I think we the earth people, have to come from the outside and crack the nutshell and remove the bacteria or the enemy and all will be well; so that is my job. Get tough we are supposed to be immune, to all chemicals to everything. But nothing happened. We didn't get tough. We didn't develop immunities. Nothing. "Well this is not a legal problem, this is a religious problem." So they pass it to Jerry, Falwell, Billy Graham, Oral Roberts. They are the ones who are supposed, to get on T.V. and hogey pogey. They're supposed to cure all the cancer, polio, tuberculosis and heart disease, like that. But nothing happened. Well, they finally said: This is not our problem, this is a scientific problem, and this is a psychological problem; right back where it started, so they kind of pass the buck around. So everybody is like in, a shell and everybody contaminates each other, and they all try to blame each other and try to squirm out at the same time. So I think we, the earth people, have to come from the outside and crack the nutshell and remove the bacteria or the enemy and all will be well; so that is my job. The vision that has been prophesied here . . . . there will be a time a society will create this monster and this monster is so big, he is going to swallow the whole world and by the time he gets half the world in his mouth, there is a fire inside this rock, the rock will explode and his mouth and his head will disintegrate. Wallace Black Elk (1921-2004), crossed over on January 25, 2004 at his home in Denver, Colorado. (1921-2004), ![]() |
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| Saxon | Mar 8 2007, 03:11 PM Post #19 |
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Yes, very True, but don't feel alone in these things since no one on this planet is really properly named. As the "winners" of wars fabricate the "history" so do they fabricate the names of their captors. All currently on this Earth are captives both physically and mentally/spiritually to a unified grip of Lucifer's minions as is SO easily seen around us all these days. The American Indian so called was HORRIBLY treated by those they originally helped, but they are in no way alone in this type of treatment by Luciferians (That's who was commanding things even in those days, commands carried out by the witless deceived of course)
I think my opinion of Columbus may have just gone up a notch. Maybe he might have known more than he could tell.
Sadly, I'm not so sure the people he's talking about know who THEY are much less those around them knowing. I'm currently seeing a picture that reminds me of those putridly hypocritical years I spent buried in Christianity. The only thing differnt with imagery seems to be names and skin color while the similarity in heart condition is striking to say the least. Like those in Christianity it appears to me that the varied AI tribes have gotten caught up in "denominationalism" (tribism) and "holy grail" (bloodline) deceptions. When will people understand that DNA genetics in no way forces spiritual development outside of the challenges it provides? I will say though from my little knothole, that over the years I have found the AI group in general to be much more spiritually acute than most others around me. FWIW But, in this place, spiritual development can almost be singularly identified as "heart condition" where all other spiritual "woo hoos" are focused upon the development of that most needed quality.
This is very True. Once again all this ridiculously spiritually inhibiting "technology" will be wiped as mud from the face of our Mother to start anew the "vineyard", a clean slate start once again.
Yup, the "heart", the main target of Mother Earth. Everything here is aimed at the goal of opening those doors. Actually the "fire", "kudalini" to some "G force" to others is the most powerful thing in the universe and indeed it is part of our spirit, hugely so. This "fire" is that which has been captured by the rebellious to build their "weapon" of destruction. Very effective to date.
The occult "hive" symbol is used to symbolize this system where men have been trapped in their system of "cogness", where men have been reduced to "drones" and women to "egg layers". None realize they are being most cruelly USED.
This group knowingly does what it does, paid shills of the very same system of spiritual entrapment. Don't be looking to them to get you out, you might as well go to a prison warden for escape.
Very accurate description of what's coming. The "fire" is the "morning star" and indeed the knowledge of such is what implodes the rule of the deceptive, like "King David" taking down "goliath" with a "stone" to the "forehead". Same picture. Great addition Wapankitupe, thanks. |
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| Ol' Griz | Mar 8 2007, 03:45 PM Post #20 |
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To paraphrase: There is nothing new to discover. It's always been right here. We are the ones that have wandered away from it. Some of us spend our entire lives searching desparately for the truth when it has been right under our noses all along. All we have to do is walk towards it with an open heart. I like that. Griz
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| Saxon | Mar 8 2007, 05:53 PM Post #21 |
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Yup, "nothing new under the sun". It's never been about technical gadgetry and developing amazing "spiritual" powers but rather opening our hearts to those around us. In a nutshell, that's our Creator's message, the "knowledge" of value one which all other gifts rest. Everything else is just frosting, and like frosting when unsupported, unsightly and misplaced. The "useless knowledge" is the rejection of the above and substituting "amazing spiritual powers" and creation technical knowledge in its stead. Have you ever noticed how those rejecting the above will attempt to set themselves above others around them with "things owned", "talents", "outward appearance" and "position"? That's because, we live in a society where "love" is conditionally granted based upon external "performance" as set up by those fixated on "useless knowledge". Not that the Kingdom doesn't have amazing technology because indeed it does, but it does NOT displace Love and compassion with toys and technology. It's all a matter of foundation. As a Truth, those trapped in the realms of darkness live desperate lives devoid of any Real Love and therefore continually scratch each other's eyes out in hopes of taking something from one another they no longer will freely give. Yes, the Truth has ALWAYS been right under our noses, down about a foot and slightly to the left.
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| Saxon | Mar 9 2007, 01:40 PM Post #22 |
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I would say the following quote from Black Elk in the last of his years exemplifies the point I was making above....
IMO he's being FAR too hard on himself here, and as well IMO he did a spectacular job of keeping the vision alive by unselfishly putting it in print for someone he apparently did not realize that it was for. To me, in some ways, it seems odd that he did not make the Pahana connection as so many of the symbols point to him heavily. In any regard, my hat is off to Black Elk, a very great man of his time. :eagleflies: |
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| Saxon | Mar 9 2007, 02:05 PM Post #23 |
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The below is Black Elk's "Dog Vision". The symbols for this are identical with the "Great Vision" with the addition of "dogs".
Now, at first glance one may wonder about the reason for the bloody picture concerning the "dogs" in which they are beheaded and offered up in glad victory. IMO, the reason for this "dog" is symbolic for what is called the "dog star" or Sirius, the much, now known "trinitarian" star cluster which is home to the "Dragon" or "Serpent" of old. Therefore, this additional vision is couching the destruction of the "Serpent" body form in the hope of the precending "Great Vision". This is the event many call "Armegeddon" in which the blood from bodies will reach up to the depth of a "horses bridle". This event is heavily called out in the Hebrew texts as the creation of humanoid "reptialian" body forms has always been a "detestable" (words attributed to our Creator) undertaking. From what I can tell, the Reptillian body form was purposely created for the housing of very low grade/frequency spirits who would otherwise have no way out of Mother Earth's "pit" system. In this, as well as the very common Loveless producion of human bodies, has the Pit system now been compromised by the king of evil and his followers. This is the "key" shown him taking hold of in Revelation. For this reason needs be the plugging of this hole, i.e. the annhiliation of that particular body form. |
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| Saxon | Mar 13 2007, 11:24 AM Post #24 |
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They went to the coast of California. The "Pahana" is going to be born on the coast of California.
This is describing a typical "reset" of Mother Earth. Yes, one way or another She will indeed be hosed off, but this account is telling of a "difference", the difference being the description of the LAST cycle.
IMO, these TWO Eagle feathers represent two Eagles of the Thunder nation, i.e. Twin Flames incarnating here from the Thunder nation. They are the "11" to which this forum was unknowingly dedicated. Indeed will the end of this cycle the LAST be trumpeted with the foundational Twin Flame Divine Law of the Kingdom. Once the Thunder Nation is "repaired" then will this "vineyard" Mother Earth once again be maintained by the Thunder Nation in the pristine manner in which it was intended as described in this vision.
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| Saxon | Mar 13 2007, 11:27 AM Post #25 |
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Something tells me their exhuberence pulled this fullfillment much more near term than really intended. Often the "winter" in big pictures is talking about extreme "death and darkness", probably referring to that "Hour of Darkness" currently under way if I had to guess. The "grasses" appearing would be the appearance of those few who would be replacing the rebellious in that "grass" is the universal symbolic for those "young tender shoots" to be transplanted to the "Top of the Moutain".
Only the "herb" (understanding) can make the Tree of Life bloom. As well, only these people can collectively make this tree bloom in that they, as a group, are the ones who make the effort to understand. There is no "ritual" to do these things as such would violate their free will. For this reason, this vision is but a vision of the future to come when the Pahana returns to bring the healing "herb", as well fix some other top level things.
Nope, it is not time yet, but soon. The "Two" of the holy shirts are those two angels who guard Pahana.
Pahana, the "two legged chief".
Again, this is a future vision of the rule of the coming Pahana, who, because of the life he lives here, will replace Lucifer (or your favorite evil name here). His rule will include Mother Earth.
12 Men are the number of rule as well the number of the past zodiak. The current zodiak numbers 13. So behold the Females as well as the foundation of this place is the eternal relationship.
Notice the 12 women for the 12 men. This number is also consistent with the 12 "Elders" shown in Revelation where there are 24, this being the Earth Bound contingent of the 24. Together, with their wives, there are a total of 48.
This is the "river" of this Earth as the "raging sea" in which no one currently has a "Way" to "cross over". The Pahana will be re-establishing the "bridge" over this very confused river. This is consistent with L&Bs vision of the bridge over the stream meaning the same. |
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| Saxon | Mar 13 2007, 12:41 PM Post #26 |
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You know, I'm not sure which is more heart wrenching at this point, the report of the heartless brutal inhumane murdering of the American Indians or this last picture of someone in their ranks who saw so much and felt that in all these things he had somehow failed. Black Elk had performed so amazingly and done EXACTLY what the Thunder Nation had wanted him to do, but yet at the end of all of this he felt in his heart that he had let them down.
So the Thunder Nation again sent Black Elk a picture to get the final total picture across, the picture of his Nation (Tepee) protected under the Tree of Life (flaming rainbow), watched over by the Thunder Nation (the spotted eagle). At the end of all the theatrics performed by Eagle Wing Stretches, who by the way is also "Wanekia", "Pahana", "The One", "The Knight of the Occult" and "The Akae of Enoch", is this final picture of Mother Earth and the Kingdom returned to it's former self modified by the long driven maturity of the spirits of the Eagle.
The above is a description of Eagle Wing Stretches in the etheral realms. In essence he has "won" this realm in the eyes of our Creator due to some extroidinary "life performance numbers" he scored while living here among men. For this reason is the very head of the Watchers shown as the Spotted Eagle above then called Eagle Wing Stretches, for he is the "last" of those to arrive in the final makeup of the Watcher body collective, the replacement for that original Arch Angel gone bad of old, the leader of the rebellion. And as a Truth will the American Indian population as a whole, even those of the "ghost nation" following Eagle Wing Stretches in the vision, once again incarnate here again upon Mother Earth in an environment "perfect" to their intended existence in the "vineyard". At long last will these long family lines, as shown in the "hoop" be reunited in perfection as per their Creator. |
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| Saxon | Mar 13 2007, 01:49 PM Post #27 |
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So now, let me introduce you to Eagle Wing Stretches, or at least MY Eagle Wing Stretches. ![]() I'll have to speak for Eagle Wing Stretches in that he has MUCH to say but isn't too terribly vocal. First, let me tell you some technical details concerning Eagle Wing Stretches. Eagle Wing Stretches was found (on the 29th) and purchased in a city named "Florence" which means "Flowering" on Oct 30, 2005. He was orginally desired to be sold for $3600 when he arrived at a store called "Romancing the Stone" (as indeed a "Stone" was being romanced) but alas, sat on the register counter for several years with no takers. He stands at approximately 6 feet tall (or was it 70 inches? I need to go remeasure I suppose) and weighs in at about 100 lbs although I have not actually weighed him. Even more amazingly, Eagle Wing Stretches is carved from Cottonwood as cottonwood is THE carving wood of choice all over the world as it is CHEAP, readily available in most all countries and does not "smell" like other woods. Although I have not had Eagle Wing Stretches genetically tested for his "woodness" I'm quite certain he indeed is carved from cottonwood as he more than likely came from "Indonesia" where many talented carvers live who are "ripped off" as a usual state of affairs by our benevolent :rolleyes: New World Order. Now, in addition to all of this, Eagle Wing Stretches was ultimately "bought" by my Wife who struck the deal of the final price of $800 (number of new beginnings for the Watchers), down from $1000 (number of completion of the Watchers, the wages of those working the Millenium per L&B's dream) I had no hand in this deal as I was only there to obsessively buy Eagle Wing Stretches as I HAD to have him. (and I have no idea why since I'm not an Eagle collector or any such thing, as a matter of fact he's the ONLY wood carving in my house right now of any size) Oddly, in the summer of 2000 did My Wife and I join "The Eagles" which is a local "fraternity", invited by a recently met friend to join. We really enjoyed the company of the people there but finally had to give up being around them as we could not deal with the intense cigarette smoke which filled their place of socializing. (although we are still inactive members) So, having said that, let's take a look at what else Eagle Wing Stretches is saying. Eagle Wing Stretches has 36 feathers on his left (left hand path, those to be returned to Eagle weak status,the number of the rebellion etc) wing and 34 feathers on his right wing (the "right" being strength and 34 being double 17 or double Victory) So, that's what powers Eagle Wing Stretches, both those the Watchers non-rebellious assisted by those their brothers and sisters who choose now to relent and depart the rebellion and GO HOME to those to whom they belong. If you will notice, his total wing feather number is 70, spiritual perfection amplified. Now also, Eagle Wing Stretches has 12 tail feathers, the number of RULE and it is THIS rule which "guides" (OK, "will" guide ) him and determines just what and where he will be going and doing. Also, if you'll notice, he's looking to his "left", or in other words, his "job" is looking after those of weakness beneath him. As well, he is standing on a stump or knoll of sorts that is HEAVILY split in the back due to the relief cracking of the entirely SOLID carving in which there is NO hollowing out. This ENTIRE piece is cut from a SINGLE piece of cottonwood as he is NOT carved seperately and glued into position. Nonetheless, Eagle Wing Stretches is mightily GRIPPING the TWO sides of this knoll (Kingdom) and holding them together with the "higher" right hand side of strength standing higher than the weaker left hand side. In short, Eagle Wing Stretches numerology shows him as the "linch pin" of the Kingdom, the restorer of things once "split", like the Kingdom.Now, I have ALWAYS loved Eagle Wing Stretches from the moment I laid eyes on him, but more than what he looks like do I LOVE what he represents. You see, Eagle Wing Stretches is the souveneir of my Wife and I's 22nd anniversary on Oct 29, 2005, a VERY special anniversary indeed. As the story has been related to first myself and then my Wife very close to the time of this event, this date is THE signpost of our "rebinding", for as the story goes, I "lost" her in the rebellion long long ago in the midst of a fallen Kingdom awash with the "new" fanciful teachings of "Lucifer" (or Jehovah etc., con men need name changes muchly :rolleyes: ) Originally I was given this story in a dream series lasting DECADES and it was not until I was close to the end of the story were the most heart wrenching details added to drive home its entirety. Then, in a series of day visions lasting more than a year (following 7/72005, aka 7-7-7), was this story verified by my Wife who did NOT know the many details of the story I was told. In any event, our story is reminiscient of the so called "Greggori" (fallen angels) who come here to retrieve their loved ones. Who knows, maybe that name is wholly accurate to our situation. So, in short, Eagle Wing Stretches up there represents the resecuring and rebinding of two "stones of fire" who, once upon a time, were "severed" by the rebellion and, according to everything I've seen to date, is someting that signals the end of the rebellion due the example illustrated, something no one thought was possible, that two once eternally mated children of God once broken apart could ever be reunited. According to the story, the "impossible" has just taken place and this example is fueling the discontent among the women of the rebellion who have just now figured out just how much they have been USED with deception. There's nothing like "the scorn of a woman" I hear and the accounts of fighting being related to me appear to back this up. You GO GIRLS!!
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| Saxon | Mar 14 2007, 12:59 PM Post #28 |
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:eagleflies: Of interest, since it's been a while since I've put the tape measure to Eagle Wing Stretches, last night I pulled out the tape measure to find that the entire carving is 60 inches tall, to the tip of the tallest wing feather. Now, 60 is a very interesting number, especially for the whole of Eagle Wing Stretches because 60 defines mortal man, whose number is 6, as in 6 Grandfathers, times 10, the number of completion. So in total 60 is saying that the carving represents the task of completing men which is what Eagle Wing Stretches and the "knoll" over which he rules is ALL about. Then I went to see how tall Eagle Wing Stretches himself is to find that he is EXACTLY 40 inches tall himself. And once again the number 40 is VERY on target for what Eagle Wing Stretches himself is about as 40 is the number of testing, like 40 days in the "wilderness" and all. In fact, the Watchers themselves as a group are overseers of the entire effort played out here on Mother Earth. Therefore, the number 60 includes both Mother Earth and the Watchers as they both work toward the same ends, the maturation of the spirits of men here in the "vineyard", where 40 specifically describes Eagle Wing Stretches's part in the whole, watching/guiding the "testing/trials" of men living here under Mother Earth's watchful eye. Honestly, I think I'd have had a hard time commisioning all these symbolic numbers into this carving had I special ordered them from the artist. As well, his trip to our home was interesting in that he did not totally fit in the back seat of my red 300M. Because of this, Eagle Wing Stretches's wings were partially sticking out of the driver side rear windows, flying us home in essence. In any regard, unless I come across an additional synchronicity, this concludes the introduction of my friend, Eagle Wing Stretches, our most interesting and beautiful carving. ![]() edited to add: I forgot to say that Eagle Wing Stretches is looking left as if guarding the dining room door to his left. Now, interestingly right across from him on the other side of this door is Mr. "Grandfather" clock who has been keeping time since the summer of 2000, about the time we joined the Eagles fraternity and about the time the world "elite" were clicking pictures of their collected world "leaders" so called. Now, what I find so interesting about his place is that the "door" he is watching over opens from due North to due South, the direction of the "Red Road", and also the same direction that the "bridge" of L&B's dream runs. Even cooler is the fact that he is watching over the "banquet room" (as in wedding banquet) in which is hanging this most profound picture, the very work of this vineyard of Mother Earth........... “Dance Me to the End of Love”. (More like Dance me to the Beginning of Love )![]() So, in essence we have unknowingly symbolized the last image shown Black Elk in has last vision, that which he was told to "remember" in that Eagle Wing Stretches is the "spotted eagle", the "door" is the "fire rainbow" and the "dining room" is in essence the goal of Mother Earth of the "teepee" and "Grandfather" time spans the door. OK, I'm really done now.
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I have just finished reading this thread from top to bottom for the fourth time and it is still beyond my comprehension how things went so bad, so fast. If it is okay to agree to disagree, then it should also be acceptable to agree to agree from two different perspectives. Black Elk spoke his words to an interpreter, who then spoke the words in english to the author, who wrote them down. It is my understanding that when words of one are passed on by another something will likely be lost because we lack the perspective of the one who spoke the words in the first place and the one who is speaking the words to us now. Perspective is influenced by ones own environment, life experiences, and knowledge, and is unique to all of us. From my perspective Black Elk's vision was one of hope for the future generations to come. That is why he agreed to have his vision recorded, so that the generations after him would have hope that some day the things in his vision would come to pass and all nations would live in peace again here on the Earth mother. In these words I find hope. Griz



4:45 AM Jul 11