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The Forum Is Dead But Anime Fight Lives On; -
Topic Started: Jul 9 2008, 02:51 AM (3,327 Views)
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Sachiel won't exist. He's too easy to feed off of(Especially with lv40 jin. Free 25k gold? kthnx).

edit: yeah, 1-10 nuclear missles may put a crater in the moon that size... do you know anything that can tank that?

ONE nuclear missle can put a crater in the moon.

But I think I have an idea about the "Point-Blank Range" issue:
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Add a multi-hit system to angel arm.
Two shots are fired acting like one. The first one is the PBR shot that has a 200 distance and does 1000 damage.
The secound shot(The part that levels up from the tech) will do 1500/3000/4000 damage and has a distance of 1000..

We could also add a third shot that does minor damage. So basically:
Three shots.
One-1000damage
Two-1000/2000/3000
Three-350/700/1000
And the distance each covers is:
One-200
Two-1000
Three-1500
So in the following range of the caster caps, you would take this much damage:
1-200 range: 2350/3700/5000
201-1000 range: 1350/2700/4000
1001-1500 range: 350/700/1000.


This would simulate the effect of the blast being massively strong at PBR and pretty weak by the end of the aoe.

As for one surviving it...I really don't know How the HELL we thought angel arm killed anyone:
In the anime knives survived being angel arm'd with only loss of lower body. While yes that is massive, the point is that obviously you CAN survive it. There are other cases I could point out but meh.
In my opinion, based on the anime, Angel Arm's damage is PRETTY FLIPPIN RANDOM.

BTW: The water fountain is being replaced with something I added to warrior souls 2.0:
A mystical aura area.
Same healing effect, just that it doesn't take up space/become a ring around the roses fight/give heroes like itachi even more slight advantage.
Instead of a fountain, it's just a special effect being looped.

Unless of course, you people want to keep the fountain. :\

Btw I was thinking, not on the scale of Warrior Souls but:
Adding Blink Scrolls to the map.
Costs 300 gold each. Max stock of one. Ten secound cooldown. One hundred mana cost. Blink max distance: 300.

Thought it might help melee heroes to gain some distance against things like itachi/vash/x.
I also considered adding a "Stun Scroll" to the map.
1 secound stun. Twenty five secound cooldown(To prevent perma stun abuse). 100 mana cost. Cast range 600. Max stock of one.

Again to assist melee heroes with the common distance problem.
Lemme know what you think.
Either way. We need to get going on deciding which heroes are going into Anime Fight Revolution as the first twelve.

So far we have:
Saito(HC rebuild)
Kenshin(HC ulti rebuild)
Axel(HC upgrade)
Kakashi(The only unchanging hero I think. xD)
Vash(HC rebuild)
D(Someone rebuild him. I don't remember VHD and I had the DVD stolen a few years back).

Oh and two last things:
D's Cut is going to be like the anime and have that insane dash-like speed to it and about a cast range. Keep that in mind if you want to remake him please. I have no other demands for this rebuild than that.
Kakashi's Kunai we have decided not to up the damage on...But can we maybe drop the cooldown just maybe one or two secounds(Can't remember what the current CD is)?

P.S. Jim: Can you do me a favour and fix the spoiler tags to work correctly on longer posts?
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We need to get going on deciding which heroes are going into Anime Fight Revolution as the first twelve.


I want ta see Dante and Vergil....course I'd try my hand at a rebuild... Shall we make a topic on this?

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The water fountain is being replaced with something I added to warrior souls 2.0:
A mystical aura area.


Yes....Yes...and HELL YES.

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Adding Blink Scrolls to the map.
Costs 300 gold each. Max stock of one. Ten secound cooldown. One hundred mana cost. Blink max distance: 300.


how about fusing scrolls? buy 2 and blink distance goes X? Fusing can only go up to X times? Eiter way, its an ok idea.
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ok, i never finished trigun... lol, want to.. didnt finish.. only got about as far as the moon part >>


but i just figured if the moon's surface couldnt survive it, Jing couldnt survive it... but since you know what happens later on in the show, i'll trust you, and take it up with an trigun fansite when im done with the show...
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I disagree with the aura instead of the fountain. A smaller area object will be easier to defend from the other team. Ussually when a team holds the fountain under constant control they have an advantage. Also the fountain was good in other ways, idiots who can't aim by using the ground would travel all the way to the other side of the fountain to attack u while u target group and hit them through it. Depending on the character of course.

Where's ur Vash build? He seemed to function well already.

And the scroll idea is good but it would put stunners at an even greater advantage. And pubs cant even manage potion use, throwing scroll in there.. yeah...use your imagination O_O

I'd probably abuse blink scrolls a lot to be honest. Just pretend the game would be the same for a second, there would be so many ultimates and regular attacks i could dodge with that scroll. Not to mention it would put an edge on people who kite.

As for D, I'll come up with a remake based on both movies and the mangaish books. Have you ever read them? wtf were they thinking >_>

As for more of personal preference, setting aside strategy:
To be honest saito is one of the most fun characters to play right now in anime fight. Linking his moves also baffles pubs. His crits are just too high for later on when ur meleeing ppl and doing more dmg per hit than their ulti. His start game isn't bad either.. It's no inuyasha but that's what provided variety. Some characters are better off in certain parts of the game. He might not be canon... but have you been playing anime fight for it being exactly like the anime? My worst thought is that this remake isn't going to have the same synergy that the original map has and remaking functional heroes is a big part of that. I'm not insulting your build, but rebuilding heroes who truly LACK(D) in the game would move the game forward instead of rebuilding certain heroes to be more canon and hope they function well.

I like what you're doing with axel tho, and I have no argument about kenshin's ult. Good job :D

Please take my words into account. I'd like to see this map succeed so I'll try to give this as much thoughtcraft from a strategic side as I can. Something that ppl like cloud can't do that for you : P
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makes sense to me O.o lol, i agree with dark.
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Sup, I was readin this forum for a whole day lookin to see if there was gonna be a new anime fight, then i came across this thread. I wanted to reply and tell Heart that makin a new anime fight would be great, because me and my friends have been dying for something new because we love the game. But it takes so long to get validated on this forum :P, lol jp with ya. After I heard bout Hearts map i downloaded it and made my friends play it too. True its no anime fight but it does show great skill in map making. And if you guys do actually decide to remake anime fight from scratch then I will do everything I can to help out, I can host and will do my best to distribute it on Bnet. PLEASE, everyone is DYING for a new map so help us out. Also i have watched a fair amount of anime :P so I can always help out with ideas for making the moves more cannon. And I love the idea of fixing Kenshins ult.

EDIT: lol sorry didnt see the 7th page when i wrote this :P.
And personally as a fan of anime fight, I like the fountain but I agree that the maze should be replaced along with sachiel.
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For the love of god don't get rid of the maze Q_Q don't hate it cuz u can't do it :P

Bahaha, my Canon D is now complete
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Lol its not that I can't do it, its that my friends see me do it and then they cant do it, so the whole match there tryin to do it and i dont have anyone to kill T_T. lol
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Maze is OUTTA HERE BITCHES!

It's an idea. And I'm not heavily considering it.

Anyways:

@S.Cloud:
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I want ta see Dante and Vergil....course I'd try my hand at a rebuild... Shall we make a topic on this?


I want to see a "Hero must be from an ANIME, not manga/book/cgi/video game." rule instated.
But we both know that isn't going to happen.

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how about fusing scrolls? buy 2 and blink distance goes X? Fusing can only go up to X times? Eiter way, its an ok idea.

The problem is that makes them:
1. Far more powerful.
2. Far more complex.
3. Far easier to dodge tracking techs.

I just don't think recipes should be in anime fight.

@Darkwield:
You did read everything I put for the blink/Stun scrolls right?
Stun Scrolls have a Twenty Five secound cooldown, and last only one secound. Perma stunners will not have use for them, I can practically promise that much. Sure there are rare cases a fight can last over twenty five secounds(pretty much only in cases of Perma Stunner VS tank from hell), none of which will a one secound stun help...Honestly.

The blinkscroll is likewise. It runs on a ten secound basis cooldown, with a max stock of one. So you can have a max of six on you at a time if you surrender pots/stun scrolls.


As for the fountain: I didn't say anything about reducing the healing aoe, did I? I'm just removing the "ROADBLOCK!!!lol" factor. The AoE for the heal will be the same, just different appearence/physical facts.

As for what you said on Saito: I would prefer to have more unique heroes. Currently Saito and Kenshin are very similiar. They both have a dash(Saito's more easily dodged for some reason), and a pushback/stun move. The difference is that kenshin's is a two step stun/pushback whereas Saito's is a single skill with less damage.
They're ultis are the total opposites of each other however. Large AoE, moderate damage - Single Target, Mass damage.

I would prefer to keep the heroes diverse in playstyle. We don't have to make them complex, just more unique. Plus I find having a few complex characters with the benefit of more power if you use them effectively opens up the topic of "Skill" I think. In this case, it wouldn't be that the hero is more powerful, but that the player has enough skill to use that power effectively.
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I suppose I'll keep an open mind to saito. As for the maze.. it wouldn't be the same maze neways so w/e.

As for the stun scrolls, a that could utilize them would still have a lot of power. but the odds of that happening are small :D

For the blink scrolls it's still a bad idea.. I'd keep one on me at all times just to use it to dodge an ulti..

And for the fountain i wasn't refering to the aoe of heal. I was refering to: it's harder to cover a fountain that has four sides and is an obstacle than it is to guard a small object.
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yeah, i dont like the idea of blink scrolls, and i prefer the fountin.





on a side note: Now, there is an anime with dante... not sure about virgil since i didnt watch it... on another topic, does axel have an anime?
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I want to see a "Hero must be from an ANIME, not manga/book/cgi/video game." rule instated.
But we both know that isn't going to happen.


Maybe you should brush up on your DMC knowledge?(Click)

Admitedly, Vergil isn't present in the anime. But he was mentioned...

.....and dont tell me no Manga/video games when your adding Axel in there.

And we should think about adding Cloud, Sephiroth or Zack in there thanks to Last Order.
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I want to see a "Hero must be from an ANIME, not manga/book/cgi/video game." rule instated.
But we both know that isn't going to happen.


Maybe you should brush up on your DMC knowledge?(Click)

Admitedly, Vergil isn't present in the anime. But he was mentioned...

.....and dont tell me no Manga/video games when your adding Axel in there.

And we should think about adding Cloud, Sephiroth or Zack in there thanks to Last Order.

dude, i allready said all that lol..


"there is an anime with dante... not sure about virgil since i didnt watch it"

"does axel have an anime?"


lol.
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your post are most certainly unoticable....now looking at it, there was an opening for a prolonged arguement...
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Yeah right forums is dead and this post has been read 700 times -.-
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