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GC emulators and roms
Topic Started: Dec 19 2007, 12:22 AM (1,204 Views)
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Jan 4 2008, 05:30 PM
The wii in general has horrid gameplay and a very glitch controller system. But I won't get into that becuase it's pure opinion, though it is a fact the Wii's Controllers are less than fully accurate, as is the (lol) thought that Wii is kick ass.

FINALLY, someone who agrees with me...
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I'm gonna say it now. WTF IS AN EMULATOR?????
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A Emulator is a program that runs Emulation Software.

Emulation is in essence Simulation, or consider it 'false testing'.

An Emulator can be official or otherwise.

Unofficial Emulator Example: Home Computer Emulators for things such as PlayStation(One or Two), Dreamcast, Gamecube, Sega Master System, and the likewise.

And Official Emulator Example: The PlayStation 2 features Emulation Software pre-instated in it which allows us to play PlayStation One games on PlayStation 2. The likewise is true for PS3 being able to play PS1/2 games, the Xbox360 being able to play Xbox games, and the Wii being able to play Gamecube games. It's all emulation software.

Mind you however, Emulators themselves are in no way illegal to create, use, or distribute. Only ISO files to games you do not own. So legal Emulator use would be sticking the game's cd into your comp and running it from there, or turning it into an ISO for your own personal use in which you agree to not distribute it to persons who do not have the game currently(Or atleast in a court case, cannot provide proof they once owned it and did not sell it such has they have FF7 Disc 1 and 3, but not 2 due to it having broken or becoming lost. Or They don't have SoulBlade anymore becuase the CD is scratched beyond repair, broken, etc).

In Short, the 'Emulators' we are talking about refering to the Non-Official(Though still fully legal) Home-Computer Emulators such as ePSXe, PS2emu, or CompCube. In other words, a program to run a CD(Or ISO file) for the game system(ps,ps2, gc in the above cases) on your computer.

The advantages are simplistic:
1. Ultimate Save Ability. You may save at quite literally any single secound of gameplay(or otherwise, such as cinematics) by pressing the emulator's listed save keys(EX for ePSXe you would press F1 to save, F3 to load from the saved game slot currently selected, and F2 to change which Save Slot is currently selected. There are 5 such slots to my knowledge on ePSXe. Or in the cast of the SNES emulator I can't recall the name for; Shift+Any F key between 1 and 9. And Load is pressing simply any of those Fkeys to open that game save) allowing you to quickly navigate through mazes by walking a path til a dead/end and then loading the slot at the last crossroads, takes away backtracking basically. Or in a game such as King of Fighters, allowing you to move time backwards perhaps a few secounds in the battle to when you messed up and the computer released a perfect combo on you cutting your life down horribley, allowing you to know what moves are coming and effectively dodging them all correctly. It also makes random guessing things less-random, click A then load and try B then load and try C. Rather than doing A, it shifts to randomly being A but you try B then C and then on C it shifts to B and so on.
2. Speed Control. Allowing your to easily and simply Speeding up or Slowing Down how fast the game moves. In effect letting you breeze through games with slow moving dialouge or 15 minute long interact-less scenes you've seen a few times before, or slow down a game such as Soul Calibur 3 to allow you to perfectly time your Guard Impacts.
3. Money Saving. While in the case of PS1 you can simply modify your Dreamcast due to it actually holding the full capabilities of a PS2 and being the first True system that could be modified to being able to do much including picking up radio and internet play(Poor Dreamcast got abandoned for shinier and literally only BARELY more powerful systems such as PS2 and Xbox). Anyways, your old DreamCast could be modified to run a PS1 emulator(In theory this should apply for ps2 emulators but...Emulators actually need more power to run than the original system, I only managed to hit my DC for 30% speed on most games, that being the tops). And in the case of PlayStation 2, you can buy magicswap and remove the outer top casing of your ps2 to allow you to switch discs without pressing the button and allowing you to run ISO-burned CDs on your PS2 with no problems at all. But in the case of Gamecube, Xbox, and the like(Excluding Dreamcast, which can be modified much like ps2 to accept burned DC ISO CDs) cannot be modified and neither can their next-gen verisons to accepts such CDs. Meaning in the case of GameCube, you HAVE to use an emulator if you wanna use GC ISO burned CDs/etc.

And there you have it. My Complete report on Emulators. Enjoy.
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All three properties of an emulatr apply to my GBA emulator... Oh how many good times I had with that thing... i must have saved about 2000 bucks downloading those ROMS instead of buying/ordering them naturally...

Btw, I think the Wii has the Gamecube's processor in it like the the old PS3's... Because I believe a Wii can play any Gamecube game perfectly... Something that's not exactly possible on an emulator unless put through shitloads of version updates...
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...Chaos Lord...You're mistaken on about 3 accounts.

1. The 'Old PS3' don't have PS2 processors, it's just as it was with PS2s, same with Wii on GC Processors. They all three use Emulation Software. Made by the company, but it's emulation software none-the-less. Likewise even the newer PS3 models have Backwards Compatability, which is infact Emulation software. Only the 40gb SLIM PS3 does not have Backwards Software. Why? They said it didn't have such becuase they felt some BS blah blah involving underhanded marketing tactics to further the selling of PS3s. But in truth it's becuase they couldn't modify the emulation software allowing PS1 games to work for some reason before the release date, so they removed the PS2 emulation software as well and went out with that crappy excuse.

Little brain thought: Why do you think it actually takes longer for a PS2 to detect a disc than a PS1 for their respective games? Likewise a PS3 vs PS2? Becuase it runs Emulation Software first to see if it matched that software. It runs the PS1 ES(Emulation Software), then the PS2 ES, then the PS3 itself. Same with the Wii and Gamecube CDs. The only difference is that Wii checks at the same time for both. Thus why we get that screen of a regular Disc and a GC size Disc when it's checking to see if there is a disc. Then when it checks true for one that one highlights.

2. The Emulation software in both the PS2/3 and Wii along the 360 are made by the same people who made exactly what the software is emulating, the previous gen system. OBVIOUSLY they know how to make it work perfectly. Not that PS3's PS1/2 Emulation did in early models(Thus the addition of the graphic 'smoothing' feature in later updates). The only reason fan-based public Emulators cannot do the same until after many many versions is becuase they don't have the correct data and have to do trial and error for everything, whereas these people do have said data already from creating the system in the first place.

3. Your socks do NOT look good! Get tie-die nao foo!

P.S. : Is it it me or are Emulators basically granting the powers of Prince of Persia games with super hyped versions combined with gameshark for infinite sand? Reverse time, slow down time, speed up time, alter time, etc.
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Kiri_No_Haku
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So I'm guessing I bought 2 unofficial emulators in my life....(going for 3rd). I have the ps1 gameshark and freeloader for the gamecube. (freeloader is useless now since I have a jap Wii for GNT 4 -.-) I was gonna get magic swap when I get the money cause I really don't feel like buying Supernova 1, Extreme 1 and 2, and other games like Narutimate Accel 2. -.-

P.S> About that crappy Wii controller stuff, on EX 2 you go right, down, left for chakra regen right? I did that and it did fuckin Sharingan then attack increase one time and half the time it doesn't go through since it isn't done the perfect way. -.-
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Haku...Those aren't Emulators.

They're by-pass programs so to speak. Allowing you to use a CD despite it not having the natural protection a US ps2/gc CD would have. It doesn't emulate anything, it just disables the protection finder.
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Then I'm confused.....so does an emulator hook up to both your comp and console?
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An emulator is a Console on your computer. It's a progam that imitates what consoles do. Roms are the games that you use for that console.

Ex. Emu: VirtualBoyAdvance
Rom: Megaman Battle Network 6: Falzer
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In a way, wouldn't that suck? You wouldn't be using your controller to it. Unless there's like an adapter which hooks a controller to your comp.
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People do indeed make USB controlers. But it actually works really well for stuff that doesn't need or use the Analog Sticks. It's control layout is able to be modified, so you can optomize it for the game that you're playing.
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Then what's the ps2's emulator? Cause I want to play my damn DLed Accel 2. -.-
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PSx emulators are as far as I've been able to go. That's PS2-1, for clarification.
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In a way, wouldn't that suck? You wouldn't be using your controller to it. Unless there's like an adapter which hooks a controller to your comp.

The downside being? Personal I prefer my keyboard, easier to use combos/buttons, etc. Plus it's easier to speed combos or set it up so you don't press the wrong button on accident.

But there are plugins to allow you to use your PS2 controller...Don't bother asking me for one though, I don't use it or even have it.

ePSXe is the best Emulator in general. But there's another one I can't seem to recall someone on my comp that actually works for the very few games ePSXe doesn't(Like Card Captor Sakura : Clow Live).

As for the most effective PS2 emulator currently? : PCSX2
It doesn't accept all games, but there are a few patches out made by different people you can applie to the program to make to games work.
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Aren't we not supposed to talk about warez n crap here? Just a thought....
Goodbye everyone. Heres a list of people who have my respect, if not my love:

Matar, comp, Darkwield, hellpyro, snoboy, pheonix, jim, eliwood, fritos, BB and huspa. Anyone who I forgot, I'm sorry.
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