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Game Crash; !!
Topic Started: Nov 8 2007, 07:21 AM (431 Views)
Inuyasha
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Yea the game crashed and it wasnt just my comp because my 3 friends who where playing in that game wc3 crashed aswell.

Well if this helps

the heros where

Team 1
X-Red
Vash-Blue
Zero-Teal(me)
Shishio-Purple
and cant remember yellow since he was just creeping the hole game and didnt get to fight in any duals.

Team 2
Kenshin-green
Vergil then repicked into Kurama-Pink
Ed-grey
Karasu-dark green

I'm thinking that it might be one of Karasus spells that caused it.
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formerly comp(noob)

you wouldnt by any chance, have WC3Banlist so you have a replay would you?
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[11:36:59 PM] <Blue.Bear sucks comp's dick hard>
[11:37:02 PM] <Blue.Bear keeps sucking>
[11:41:07 PM] <Blue.Bear sucks more>
[11:41:25 PM] <Blue.Bear sucks until comp gets to climax>
[11:41:29 PM] <comp(noob) sprays ranch dressing everywhere>

Eliwood, May 20 2008
4:23 PM
comp/nate is a sexy azn beast...and cl is a fugly canadian monkey

S.Cloud,May 30 2008
09:43 AM
You wanna fight Comp? Take it to battle.net.


EPIC LULZ S.CLOUD!! EPIC LULZ!!
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Darkwield
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Karasu causes fatal errors constantly and shuts the program down even without displaying an error. I assume it's karasu because every time it's happened to me it was when Karasu was present.
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Again, I apologize for being a bitch.
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i think heartcard might know the answer to this, cause i remember her saying something about it...
i think it had to do with the ulti
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Darkwield
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Yeah I believe its the ulti
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Nov 9 2007, 02:08 AM
you wouldnt by any chance, have WC3Banlist so you have a replay would you?

I closed it around 2 games before this game, the beeping from messages pissed me off.

Oh yea asoon as i done my Z-buster(or w/e its called) it closed but im dam sure its not that.


And HeartCard do your few hours of stuff to find out :) :bonk:
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Well actually, from what my studies have shown, the Karasu crash bugs are caused by one of three things:

1. Continuous Spells(Refering to spells that constantly does their effect if activated. Not DPS or other such skills. Only techniques such as Karasu's Blast Field meeting another Karasu's Blast Field, Jin's lv40 ulti, or D's Vectors. Although in the case of D's vectors, it rarely crashes. In the other two cases, I've yet to see it NOT crash.)
2. High-Priority Spells(Refering to spells that activate with a continual affect on the user while casting. And in the event another spell would do damage at the same moment, this spell does damage after the other spell. So far the only techniques I've see this crash with are Karasu's ulti meeting;
A. Another Karasu's Ulti or Jin's ulti.
B. It also sometimes, but rarely, happens with X's lv6 and lv26 ultis
C. Along with Vash/Knives' ultis
D. And in VERY VERY RARE cases it works against kurama's roots.)
3. And the third case I've only seen happen twice(in a row from the same person, but I never pulled it off myself): Against X's Dash move that either moves at Karasu or away from him while in range of Blast Field. Does not trigger blast field from what I've seen, but it may cause a crash. It's possible the same may be true about Axel and Kakashi's blink moves in the same respective use.

If I'm correct, the reason all the above happen are becuase Karasu is a Reverse Model type of hero. Meaning that his normal form is a wrong hero, and that his mask on/off is the real hero. The case in which that happens is quite random, and cannot be cured other than rebuilding the hero from scratch.(lol random neji reference) This is much like copy and pasting a skill in the Object editor, altering every thing about it, and giving it to a hero who is using also the original (Or another copied version) of the spell you used to make said technique. In that case if the hero attempts to use either of the two techniques, it will either:
A. Randomly trigger one of them.
B. Trigger ALL of them.
C. Trigger the one fastest.

The idea of "Abnormal" and "Normal" heroes is much the same thing. It's possible that when creating Karasu, Spathis had two bases in mind. He copied one to make a back-up of it. In the end he deleted the original and used the back-up as the actual hero. But the hero glitched in the above fashion and thus karasu's Mask activation is infact his true data, and with mask off it's his alternate data. It's something around the lines of a reversed metamorphisis, if you will.

That is, if I'm correct, the reason Karasu is the most legendarily buggy hero thus far(Spell immunity, overcharging ulti, free ulti in duels by charging pre duels and not using or dieing, crash bug 1, 2, 3, 25, etc). The only way to remedy this problem would be to rebuild the hero from scratch.

This is why, to be on the safe side, most people ban karasu. I don't, I just make sure to not let the crashes/bugs get out of hand(no, I'm not the one who uses him).

---SHORT VERSION---

Karasu's crash bug is normally caused by one of the following three things:

1. Continual Chaining spells such as Karasu's Blast field and Jin's lv40 ulti.
2. His Ulti meeting a High-Priority spell such as Karasu's blast field, Vash/knives' ultis, etc.
3. VERY RARELY: X's Dash if used towards are away from Karasu. May also apply to Axel/Kakashi's Blink skills.

The reason the above happens cannot be quickly explained, see above if you want to know why.

---END Dif Versions---

So it's for the most part because of the way Karasu is made, but also becuase of the way some of the skills are made, oh well. Lemme know if you wanna know more about it.
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