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SET; Not Rigged!
Topic Started: Oct 22 2007, 01:22 PM (2,618 Views)
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The costs are small enough, but the damage is too low. Often later on you will find yourself in a press for more mana as the other heroes get more health. As for movement speed... blink has 0 cd and you don't really need it. The second you appear at your destination, blink should already be used again.

As for heartcard, my axel build is completely different from yours, as chakram and blink are maxed before firewall is. So I guess your playstyle would be different. Using a higher level firewall would also emphasize more on more mana.

Axel in the hands of a good player should only be killed by:
A) Stuns
B) 2nd Player AOE in blink destination.
C) Trading shots. (I.E Sesshoumaru uses whip of light when axel uses chakram. If you stick around, he can simply dash and whip again as you blink to get out of range. His ulti would probaly be used on chakram blades.)
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I never said I max Firewall first. I simply used it for an example. I Level as follows:

Chakram, blink, trade off until Blink is lv3.
Then Chakram 1st and Firewall 2nd.

Though honestly, I must say Firetooth is rather uncanon given they never acted on their own.
Then again the only canon moves Axel has are Blink and Firewall. I think maybe he should be remade for more canon/less useability >_>:

Chakram: Fine As Is.

Blink: Fine As Is.

Firewall: Again. Fine as is.

Firetooth: Never acted on their own. Instead of summons it should do this:

LV1: +150 to damage.
LV2: +300 to damage.
LV3: +500 to damage.

Which would actually be more canon in my opinion. It would also take away his pure kiting ability, making you choose between Chakrams/Blink or melee rape.

EXTRA SKILL, Non-leveling: Summon Nobodies
Just like Skeleton raise, but without cooldown and nobodies do 100dmg, melee, 500HP, fast attack(Not FASTEST), no max skeleton limit. Skeletons last 80 secounds.

Who knows.
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If you max blink last, then firewall is maxed before it. That's where it branches off.

A lot of things are uncanon(Mugen's dance techniques are greater than using his sword, I guess.), and there's really no reason to have to be canon as long as the hero isn't TOTALLY off.
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You mean like Shishio? Sorry the only canon thing about him at this point is Guren Kaina except it lacks the stun an explosive IN YOUR FACE tech should have, not to mention the pushback. And maybe Homura Dama. A rather big maybe.

I personally find my new version of shishio much more canon, while also being much more useful.

Or as far as uncanon goes: Kenshin. His ultimate attack is a DUAL-Move mind you. Yet it only hits once and doesn't draw in opponents like it does in the anime at all.
So then, I hold a question: Who is the LEAST Canon accurate hero in Anime fight? O_o

I vote for:
1st-Shishio
2nd-D(Cut/Hand/Temptation did NOT make him lose him mind which would be the equal to auto-untarget IMO)
3rd-Axel

Your votes?
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First, my view on being canon in anime fight. I think its pretty stupid to try and be perfectly canon, or remove something COULD be associated with that person just because he didn't use it. If we go by this theory, Shishio shouldn't get his kaguzuchi, Vash shouldn't be able to kill anyone that is within his moral standards, Kakashi's raikiri should have a long charge time and only hit one hero. There are many things you can rant on about along those lines. As long as the hero resembles his inspiration, its fine.

Yes shishio is uncanon, I even said "Alot of things are uncanon..... and there's really no reason to have to be canon as long as the hero isn't TOTALLY off." So you don't have to argue about it since it isn't a disastrous change from his anime/manga counterpart. Apparently both you and inuyasha think he's a perfectly fine hero and doesn't need to be revamped the way he is.

(Although me, benitsuke, and you have already posted revamps.)

As for the vote?
1st: Ichigo
2nd: Naraku
3rd: Kimimaro
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The same thing applies to Kenshin, and likewise a few other heroes I'm sure, when it comes to not being able to kill someone. Not sure we should/could really follow that, unless you wanna add an auto skill that halves their damage on Heroes, in which case would just seriously debuff a few characters.

And FYI: Raikiri is not a single-target technique in the anime. Mind you during the first instance of it's use(The Kakashi Gaiden Arc) it went through several clones. Raikiri can continue on as long as it's manifested.

I never said Shishio didn't need a revamp. I've both listed possible changes to him in my "A few ideas" topic and offered a complete revamp as a new hero.

I (Personally) prefer Canon over Ability. Not to mention if we canon certain things up, some heroes would actually be more powerful. Like I said about Kenshin's ulti. It would be split in two. The first attack would damage and stun all heroes within a maybe 300 AoE, for maybe 4*Agi. Then all heroes in a 700 AoE would be pulled towards Kenshin at a speed equal to twice the distance between Kenshin and them, then the secound attack would hit roughly 0.8 secounds later and would do the 2nd attack for 8*Agi. Still ending up with a total of 12*Agi for damage, but being more canon and possibley more effective. Well actually, the effectivity of it would infact be an opinion. It would surely atleast be alot better eye candy.

Or...Kakashi's Raikiri would be much more like Chain Lightning except with him running through each opponent as his own animation in addition to the lightning effects.

Or...Sanosuke's Futai no Kiwami would hit twice instantly, instead of two different shots.

Yes, this game is very uncanon. If we changed every hero to be more canon, I'd love it but I'm sure the hero skills list would change by atleast 110 skills.

As for your Votes:
Ichigo is INDEED very uncanon. Getsuga Tenshou is firing in a wave when it should fire like impale. Getsuga Tenshou may perhaps be the most canon move Ichigo has though. Which is sad.
Naraku, again yes, VERY uncanon.
But Kimimaro? I kinda think he wasn't done TOO badly. Though adding cooldown/cast time to finger bullets is certainly uncanon imo, and it also slightly ruins my favorite playstyle with him.

Oh well, this has become a war of opinions, so I'll probabley stay out of it from here on.
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Well, my opinion of Anime Fight is this: Everyone's rigged. The whole game's just about who can get rigged the fastest or be the best rigged person ever. The only way you can really suck is if you're too impatient to wait until the late-game if you're a stat-based character. As for the static-damage characters, sure, they have that "window," but it's inevitable that you'll most likely lose unless the Kills to Win are set to something sub 100.

For me, this is the basic strategy to win:

- Get EXP tomes until about level 10. Most everyone does this, and, for the ones who don't, you'll be ahead enough to make up for your gold in kills. As for the ones who are about your level, you'll be able to keep up. If your skills are > them, though, you'll get some gold while you're "on even grounds."
- Save up for 5k tomes. You might get pushed around for a bit, but because they're wasting their gold on smaller tomes, it's not as efficient. Plus, that boost of strength later on will surprise them, lol.
- After you do this, the snipers at bottom-left will stop clumping up. Rob the bank. ??? PROFIT


That's basically it. If you're a stat-based character (Saito's one of the best with his massive stun + ult, lol), it's GG for the other team (unless they had static-damage people and the Kills to Win was, as stated before, sub-100). In fact, the "static damage" heroes can still be powerful late-ish if you find that you're agi and they blast you open every time, lol.

There is a bit of strategy in this game, I suppose, but no game completely lacks strategy. AF is a pretty straight forward game.

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I can't believe you decided to post in a thread almost over two years old. Fucking closed.
comp(noob),Aug 21 2007
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Edit: Did Therran just call me a mother fucker? O_O

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