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Music...; yea...
Topic Started: Jan 8 2007, 01:37 AM (880 Views)
Insane)Heat
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I like metallica as well. However I believe SOAD has way better lyrics.

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Also, you say you don't know/think scream and grunting you can't understand is crap... then why do you like SoAD?

I swear, they sound like they say "WASH IT IN A SINK!" in one of there songs >.>.

maybe it's just me but I never have a problem in hearing their lyrics. They may scream them, but it's to an extent.
You see their is a solid yellow line for lyrics being coherent and them not. For SOAD I don't think they've crossed it.

Lincoln Park's music I find good all the time. I just like mike shinota. I think his sort of rap, has way more intelligence to it than most. I mean cmon he wrote a song about internment camps takes skill.
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Jan 30 2007, 03:16 AM
Lincoln Park's music I find good all the time. I just like mike shinota. I think his sort of rap, has way more intelligence to it than most. I mean cmon he wrote a song about internment camps takes skill.

Intelligence? Teenage angst lyrics filled with emoness is straight out STUPID.
Oh and guess what? ALL THEIR *ING SONGS ARE THE SAME!
They have neither talent nor creativity, their only talent is to alter the songs on the pc so that zealous angst idiots like you listen to it.

Chaos Lord15
Jan 29 2007, 03:11 AM
Since nobody other than me is ever going to put their ears against the speaker while reading a copy of the songs lyrics.

I do that pretty often.

Insane)Heat
Jan 28 2007, 11:49 PM
I just wanna defend the fact that lincoln park isn't crap.

No it's not crap, it's EMO *ING TEENAGE ANGST CRAP.

Insane)Heat
Jan 28 2007, 11:49 PM
Screaming * you can't hear into a mic takes no talent, that's crap.


That's what *gotry Park is doing, some castrated * screaming into a mic and then they mix that * with the Pc so it sounds about alright.
Want a good band with screaming vocals? Get some Dark Tranquility Albums.

Insane)Heat
Jan 28 2007, 11:49 PM
bands like these are often used to judge whether or not another band falls into that group or not. I gave up on trying to genre bands like AFI, SOAD, 3 days grace


It's called NuMetal.

Insane)Heat
Jan 28 2007, 11:49 PM
Theirs bands that because you can't fit them precisely into a genre you simply have to say... alternative.


Yes you can, it's NuMetal.

Insane)Heat
Jan 28 2007, 11:49 PM
And I'm the first to rationalize to say that SOAD is metal alternative. I'm not classifying it. Just generalizing it and determining it can't be determined.


It's NU *ING METAL DUMBASS.
Classify my * it's NuMetal, * your alternative * *.
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I do that pretty often.


Heh, so I'm not the only one...

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Intelligence? Teenage angst lyrics filled with emoness is straight out STUPID.
Oh and guess what? ALL THEIR *ING SONGS ARE THE SAME!
They have neither talent nor creativity, their only talent is to alter the songs on the pc so that zealous angst idiots like you listen to it.
(Catamenia)

Oh how I so agree to this... Linkin Park is decent if you're like 12, and you live in a highly emo community, but for an 18-Year-Old to be listening to them, and saying their good is like a 45 year old liking Barney the Dinosaur...

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That's what *gotry Park is doing, some castrated * screaming into a mic and then they mix that * with the Pc so it sounds about alright.
(Catamenia)

How true this is, only about half their songs have lyrics you can hear without the aid of a lyrics website. Hey Insane: Ever heard "By Myself" and "Crawling"? Heck, not only do you listen to them, you probably jerk off to them...

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I gave up on trying to genre bands like AFI, SOAD, 3 days grace
(Insane)Heat)

The fact you listen to 3 Days Grace and SOAD makes me want to punch you right in the face... Thankfully, I have the pleasure of not knowing what AFI is...

Anyways, Insane, if you ever want to actually have hope for yourself and not be a crybaby emo-goth, then I recomend you start listening to a band called "Wintersun". They've got coherent lyrics, awesome guitar riffs, awesome surreal and folky lyrics, and it gives you the feeling that you're partying with hordes of vikings. Start with "Beyond the Dark Sun", heres a video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tnhdJVh9iIY

And heres a link to the song "Starchild": http://youtube.com/watch?v=0IbI6q5eJP4 do note the video sucks, but the song is awesome.
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I'm really emo goth >.>.

Deriving alot of stereotypes on people by the music they listen to is wrong.

Lincoln Park isn't emo. Crawling I'll give to you is kinda emo.... the one singer not sure his name. When he's screaming crawling in my skin. That I'll give you. But Mike Shinota sings about true stuff. I like the fact that there is teenage angst. God knows the society we live in needs it. You go looking down the street and half the kids are wankster.

Others like amidimaru by his absolutism on music. Think that music is something that must be derived from shere talent of instrumentals. There is more to music then being able to play an instrumental. I'm not saying it's not important I do have respect for those people who can play well. It does take talent. However in todays modern age it's very unneccessary with all the tools, programs, and Sound FX that we have.

I listen to alot of different music. But, this is a big but, I don't like music for the image they protray but by the beat I listen to and the lyrics I hear. SOAD may give off a emotional type setting to you. But really all they do is what most bands do. And that is openly speak out against war, genicide, and hate. If that makes them emo.... I guess I'm emo.
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I'm really emo goth >.>.


How's that possible? I admit I ain't too sure on the terms but... Goth's are people who dress up in dark colors and stuff and have a darker out-look on things, BUT can and normaly are happy and stuff, just diffrent.

Emo's are wannabe goth's, who have the outlook and cloths but are whinning *s.

Your not a whnnng b'itch from what I can tell and thus, not a emo.

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Lincoln Park isn't emo. Crawling I'll give to you is kinda emo.... the one singer not sure his name. When he's screaming crawling in my skin. That I'll give you.


No dude. I am 99.9% sure that all the songs are emo. Hell, while I think Soad friggen sucks there not emo, as there songs are trying to make a point... Linkin Park? There songs are just cashing in on the emo >.>.

Not that cashing in on human stupdity is a bad thing >.>.

Honestly I don't think there bad (That fx'd thing was a joke) it's just that there... really REALLY over-rated.

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I listen to alot of different music. But, this is a big but, I don't like music for the image they protray but by the beat I listen to and the lyrics I hear. SOAD may give off a emotional type setting to you. But really all they do is what most bands do. And that is openly speak out against war, genicide, and hate. If that makes them emo.... I guess I'm emo.


No, unless you WHINE it makes you goth.
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just throwing it out there, linkin had A good CD and that was meteora.... and also joe satriani and steve vai kick Soad anti-war butt( and cant ferget disturbed)
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Call SOAD overrated if you want. That could bother me less. As for Lincoln Park. You may be right that alot of their songs cash in on emotion. But.... No, and I mean NO, emo's I've ever seen listen to Lincoln Park. The only people I know who do are the same people who are into metal and rock. You guys have to remember I'm in an older generation. Maybe not by a whole lot. But still an older one. So the music we listen to is different.

Amidimaru doesn't count cause he lives in Europe. That's a different culture.

Faint doesn't count to me as an emotional song at all so I wouldn't say all their songs...

It's just one singer whining get past it, and their not that bad. Same with Dragonforces singer, and all those screamo bands. But god doesn't everyone else wish that screamo bands would get a real singer or just shut the * up. I mean seriously. They ruin their own music.
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Not necessarially. Like all types of music, there is some good and some bad when it comes to "screamo" bands as you put it, you just have to look. Hell, some of it is good in the fact that the screaming is so horrid, like Burzum.
I can not tell, is it just me or do we all look just like
Adolph fucking Hitler with this swoopy emo-boy dreamy haircut dangling in our faces, making us all indescribably indistinguishable from each other; or maybe I'm just another megalomaniac?
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It's just one singer whining get past it, and their not that bad. Same with Dragonforces singer, and all those screamo bands. But god doesn't everyone else wish that screamo bands would get a real singer or just shut the * up. I mean seriously. They ruin their own music.

I couldn't tell if you got my point or not. Just to clarify, I did mean that screamo bands don't suck. Just their vocalists. I know a bass player who plays in this screamo band called nyphlem god I hope I spelled that right. Anyhow, if you listen to the tracks without vocals. My god...they may be better then metallica. But on the same note. It's like the best guitar solos and such are on the tracks with the screaming.

So one day I asked him..

"hey, don't get mad but umm... why have a screaming vocalist? Don't you think that ruins your music?"
his reply to me was
"I play my music, the other band players do their part. It's not for me to say what's bad and what's good music because people have different tastes."
Basically what I got from what he said is that bands just do whatever works, and when people like them they consider it fine.
It's just I constantly forget that some people actually enjoy the incoherent grunting of lyrics. I suppose it's an aquired taste.
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and all this came from k2007 asking us for our music suggestions.
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Insane)Heat
Jan 31 2007, 04:01 PM
Amidimaru doesn't count cause he lives in Europe. That's a different culture.

Oh lawd lol, our culture is americanized as can be, sadly.

Chaos Lord15
Jan 30 2007, 06:20 PM
I recomend you start listening to a band called "Wintersun". They've got coherent lyrics, awesome guitar riffs, awesome surreal and folky lyrics, and it gives you the feeling that you're partying with hordes of vikings. Start with "Beyond the Dark Sun", heres a video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tnhdJVh9iIY

And heres a link to the song "Starchild": http://youtube.com/watch?v=0IbI6q5eJP4 do note the video sucks, but the song is awesome.

Holy * you like wintersun?
Starchild is the best song, epic and with beautiful lyrics.
Can't wait for the new album, seems to be a killer.

I suggest you take a peak at those bands if you haven't already :

Kalmah
Ensiferum (Jaari's former band)
Dark Tranquility
Norther
Insomnium
Equilibrium (German lyrics)
Eternal Tears of Sorrow
Mors Principium Est
Draconian
Skyfire
Catamenia (Yes it's a band)
Epica
Strapping young lad (A bit insane but some good songs)
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Like you, "Starchild" is my favorite song, second is "Battle Against Time" and third is a tie between "Sleeping Stars" and "Beyond the Dark Sun"

Anyways, I looked into about half of these bands you suggested...

Kalmah: Bit too dark for my tastes.

Norther: Most of their stuff is a bit too dark and sordid for my tastes, however, I LOVE the song "Frozen Angel". What really sucks though is I can't find the lyrics to it anywhere...

Mors Principium Est: These guys rock.

Catamenia: See entry for Mors Principium Est.

Ensiferum: These guys transcend awesomeness, but what else would you expect from something that had Jari Mäenpää in it. Heck, put Jari in Linkin park or Soad, and they instantly become awesome. Simple as that.

Equilibrium: When it comes to bands with foreign lyrics, I always like to have them translated so I know what they're saying. I'm gonna need some proper translations first before I can make a verdict.

Skyfire: They've got a few good songs.

Draconian: Bit too dark for my tastes.

I am shocked with myself that I didn't come across Ensiferum sooner, Catamenia and Est Principium Mors are awesome too. Hopefully Equilibrium will be good once I can get they're lyrics translated...
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Feb 3 2007, 08:15 AM
Like you, "Starchild" is my favorite song, second is "Battle Against Time" and third is a tie between "Sleeping Stars" and "Beyond the Dark Sun"

Haha * same here, you were the last person I was expecting to like this stuff.

Btds would be alot better if it weren't so damn short.

Chaos Lord15
Feb 3 2007, 08:15 AM
Norther: Most of their stuff is a bit too dark and sordid for my tastes, however, I LOVE the song "Frozen Angel". What really sucks though is I can't find the lyrics to it anywhere...


Their albums vary greatly, the old ones are pure moshing/headbanging stuff and some of the newers like "Till death unites us" are more melodic.
Frozen Angel is from the new album "No way back" which isn't released yet.
There's a teaser on their myspace though. www.myspace.com/norther

Chaos Lord15
Feb 3 2007, 08:15 AM
Mors Principium Est: These guys rock.


They just made a new album called "Liberation = Termination" it's pretty good you should get it.

Chaos Lord15
Feb 3 2007, 08:15 AM
Ensiferum: These guys transcend awesomeness, but what else would you expect from something that had Jari Mäenpää in it. Heck, put Jari in Linkin park or Soad, and they instantly become awesome. Simple as that.


True but don't get their demo album, it's been re-recorded on "Iron" with a few extra songs and it's alot better.

Chaos Lord15
Feb 3 2007, 08:15 AM
Equilibrium: When it comes to bands with foreign lyrics, I always like to have them translated so I know what they're saying. I'm gonna need some proper translations first before I can make a verdict.


Well most of their stuff is about german folklore, legends and of course about nordic gods. (thor etc.)
I won't translate it seeing as it's extremely difficult but I can give you a rundown.

From the Album Turis Fratyr :

1. Turis Fratyr
Instrumental

2. Wingthors Hammer
(The Hammer of Wingthor)
One morning Thor woke up to find out that his Hammer Mjölnir was stolen by a Troll, this song tells the tale of how he got it back and killed the troll. (Sounds boring but it's good.)

3. Unter der Eiche
(Under the Oak)
A poem-like tale about a old festival held during the fullmoon under a great oak.

4. Der Sturm
(The Storm)
A song about the battlefield.

5. Widars Hallen
(Widars Woods)
The Tale of Widar, an ancient keeper of the forrest whose woods got attacked by giants and burned down to the ground.

6. Met
(Mead)
A funny song about mead.

7. Heimdalls Ruf
(Heimdalls Call)
Instrumental

8. Die Prophezeiung
(The Prophecy)
A song about a prophecy which is engraved in a stone deep in the forrest.
Reminds me a bit of Zelda.

9. Nordheim
(Nordheim)
The tale of the last warrior of Nordheim and the fall of Nordheim, kinda sad.

10. Im Fackelschein
(In the torchlight)
Instrumental

11. Tote Heldensagen
(Tales of the dead Heroes)
A very, VERY long tale about about the battle of Nordheim and how it began. (prequel to "Nordheim")

12. Wald der Freiheit
(Forrest of the Free)
Instrumental

13. Shingo Murata (bonus track)
(Shingo Murara) I think it's latin...?
Exactly what you would expect from the last song on this CD, a song about the victorious end of a battle.

Chaos Lord15
Feb 3 2007, 08:15 AM
I am shocked with myself that I didn't come across Ensiferum sooner, Catamenia and Est Principium Mors are awesome too.


Got one more for you, Insomnium.
Try "Mortal share" for a start it's not as hard as the other songs.
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