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Bleach copying from Yuyu Hakusho?; Spoilers for both
Topic Started: Oct 18 2006, 12:53 AM (961 Views)
Fishin4pigeon
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Okay...after watching both Bleach and Yuyu Hakusho for a large number of episodes, it's kinda absurd how much bleach copies from Yuyu hakusho. The "main character can see spirits" thing I could excuse, but look at this:

-After a large chunk of story where the heroes go to another place (Dark tournament, Soul Society), the heroes return to regular life
-However, that regular life is interrupted by 3 villians who kidnap one of the main characters, who have seemingly no motivation, but it later turns out that they've been drafted by an ally (Urahara, Genkai) to warn the heroes about a new threat
-The 3 villians create several challenges for the main characters to overcome, and one of the challenges is almost the exact same (one of the villians kidnaps a character without the main characters knowing, then gives them the challenge of trying to find who the intruder is)
-Each of these 3 villians has a unique power that can be summed up in a single word (taboo, copy/transform, shadow, illusion, teleport), and two of the powers are the exact same.
-The 3 villians end up joining the heroes, but their powers end up being surprisingly ineffectual (I mean...the Shadow guy could've stopped any of the Seven just by stepping on their shadow, the guy with Taboo could've just stepped in at the end, and Bam, Sensui can't fight at all, Nova could've just teleported an enemy underground or underwater or something)
-One of the main characters has lost their powers, suffers from feelings of uselessness, but gains it back (Actually...I haven't seen Ishida gain his powers back, but I'm betting it happens)

That's kinda a messy summary, but it gets my point across-the episodes of bleach after the Soul Society Arc shamelessly copy from Yuyu Hakusho.

Any thoughts on this?
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Thankfully someone else realized this. Hell, you dont even need to watch bleach to know that, just watch the commercials about it. Ichigo is almost the same character as Yusuke, only he has a sword and doesnt shoot energy (i dunno about the delinquent thing, i only watched the show once). I mean hell, they're even the exact same age!
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Actually..Bounto is a filler and dosn't really count.

But yeah, I kinda realized this for quite a while. I was just talking to my bro about anime one day, then we talked about YYH, then Bleach.

Then we talked about how Ichigo is actually half Hollow due to some reason, and his father is actually a Shinigami...but then we realized Yusuke is a demon, but also a human..from there we started examining other things...and then we kinda came to the conclusion Bleach is a better, but ripped of version of YuYu Hakusho.
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Yu Yu Hakusho>>>>>Bleach.

Simple as that.
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Read the whole post before flaming.

Ahem. Yu Yu Hakusho blows.

Why? Because FUNimation sucks and so does American censorship.

Bleach does not suck, because it actually HAS a plot besides the basic story arc which you clearly don't pay attention to. [Soap Opera anyone?]

If you don't like watching Anime Soap Operas then stop watching them, otherwise leave your opinions to yourself. (Yes I understand it isn't a total soap opera anime...)

Every story written today takes something from another story.

Key Example : Starcraft_____Does that make the game any less amazing for its time? No, it was a really cool rts. Does a spirit world themed anime suck? No, you just assume it does after watching 0 to 5 episodes and judging the rest of the anime as the same before even truly watching it.

Case in Point : If you haven't seen Chad tear out a friggin telephone pole out of the cement yet and still condemn the series, you haven't even seen a 15th of the series; so stop judging so damn early. I don't care if you think it sucks, but at least list exactly why after watching a decent amount of the anime.

To sum it all up, don't judge a book by its color.

And yeah, fritos seems to be the only person who has actually seen more than a few episodes while Fishin seems to be angry at one of the story arcs; just remember how much Inuyasha and Naruto suck and it'll make you feel much better about watching Bleach instead.

As a side note: If you are interested in Bleach, read the manga; I've heard from multiple sources (including close friends) that it rocks.
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Edit: Did Therran just call me a mother fucker? O_O

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Well I'm sorry but my opinion stands. Bleach isnt anything special.
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comp(noob),Aug 21 2007
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Edit: Did Therran just call me a mother fucker? O_O

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Ahem. I don't think YuYu Hakusho or Bleach is a bad series, I just think Bleach is kinda unoriginal. If you look at the points I made, the two story arcs are extremely similar. I've seen up to ep 78 of Bleach and something like up to 94 of YuYu Hakusho, so don't think I've just seen the first few episodes. It's true that a bunch of stories take something else and I can excuse most of the similarities, but the points I made are just too close.

Oh, and American Censorship does suck, can't argue with you there.
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They even censored Inuyasha, which plays at 11 pm here, has a disclaimer before the program even starts, and doesn't show much nudi
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Bleach might be unoriginal, but it's still good. Heck, even the Black fillers are good.(for most anime, the fillers suck).

No censor can be worse than 4kids...
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Chaos Lord15,Sep 14 2006
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The only reason I was calling it Fritos mode was because I had no idea what to call it that would be shorter than 8-12 letters... So wait, are you saying we ended up causing a 30 post long flame war because of some misunderstanding?


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thats a retarded excuse
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They even censored Inuyasha, which plays at 11 pm here, has a disclaimer before the program even starts, and doesn't show much nudity in the first place. [I don't watch Inuyasha anymore, watching it haunts me to this day.]

One obvious censorship is on the first episode of Inuyasha. Look at a subbed version of the 1st episode, and look a the centipede "woman"; notice how she has boobs without nipples; not exactly sexy or stimulating or wrong to show on tv. Then look at a dubbed version (american) and look at the same character, the result is a flat chested character talking like a woman.....very awkward. So instead of having a relatively normal and non-corrupting episode, the animation company censors it and shows something that looks like it is either a man with an incredibly womanish face, or simply a flat chested woman. The ambiguity is scary to say the least.


*If you don't know what ambiguity means, go to www.dictionary.com*
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They even censored Inuyasha, which plays at 11 pm here, has a disclaimer before the program even starts, and doesn't show much nudity in the first place. [I don't watch Inuyasha anymore, watching it haunts me to this day.]

One obvious censorship is on the first episode of Inuyasha. Look at a subbed version of the 1st episode, and look a the centipede "woman"; notice how she has boobs without nipples; not exactly sexy or stimulating or wrong to show on tv. Then look at a dubbed version (american) and look at the same character, the result is a flat chested character talking like a woman.....very awkward. So instead of having a relatively normal and non-corrupting episode, the animation company censors it and shows something that looks like it is either a man with an incredibly womanish face, or simply a flat chested woman. The ambiguity is scary to say the least.


*If you don't know what ambiguity means, go to www.dictionary.com*
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They even censored Inuyasha, which plays at 11 pm here, has a disclaimer before the program even starts, and doesn't show much nudity in the first place. [I don't watch Inuyasha anymore, watching it haunts me to this day.]

One obvious censorship is on the first episode of Inuyasha. Look at a subbed version of the 1st episode, and look a the centipede "woman"; notice how she has boobs without nipples; not exactly sexy or stimulating or wrong to show on tv. Then look at a dubbed version (american) and look at the same character, the result is a flat chested character talking like a woman.....very awkward. So instead of having a relatively normal and non-corrupting episode, the animation company censors it and shows something that looks like it is either a man with an incredibly womanish face, or simply a flat chested woman. The ambiguity is scary to say the least.


*If you don't know what ambiguity means, go to www.dictionary.com*
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Ah well Bleach isn't that bad, plot kinda sucks, but the characthers are cool.

YuYu Hakusho however, had blander characthers, but its plot was a lot better then Bleach....well for now, the future of Bleach may hold a lot more surprises.
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They even censored Inuyasha, which plays at 11 pm here, has a disclaimer before the program even starts, and doesn't show much nudity in the first place. [I don't watch Inuyasha anymore, watching it haunts me to this day.]

One obvious censorship is on the first episode of Inuyasha. Look at a subbed version of the 1st episode, and look a the centipede "woman"; notice how she has boobs without nipples; not exactly sexy or stimulating or wrong to show on tv. Then look at a dubbed version (american) and look at the same character, the result is a flat chested character talking like a woman.....very awkward. So instead of having a relatively normal and non-corrupting episode, the animation company censors it and shows something that looks like it is either a man with an incredibly womanish face, or simply a flat chested woman. The ambiguity is scary to say the least.


*If you don't know what ambiguity means, go to www.dictionary.com*

Yeah, it's really odd...then again, I avoid Inuyasha like the plague anyways, but still, the censorship is really annoying.
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